Vista - SP1 doesn't fix "Windows Explorer has stopped responding." Ready toput my fista through vista!

04-18-2008

I'm a Firefox user, but I did find IE freezing and Explorer crashing a
lot once I upgraded to Vista.

However, the freezing and crashing has stopped (thus far) since I've
systematically gone through my drivers and updated them to Vista
specific versions of the same. I even removed and reinstalled drivers
that seemed the same between XP and Vista, just in case Vista wanted to
deal with the installation differently than XP would. For me this is
standard procedure. I didn't expect things to run smoothly just after
the upgrade, but after I get everything--and I mean
-everything---properly reseated, to use a related metaphor.

--
wornways
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04-18-2008

Whether or not these are "unique" problems is utterly irrelevant to me. I
fought passionately to get a fix for an issue that was crashing many people,
and I fought passionately to get a fix for an issue that had apparently only
crashed one person ever. I simply like excellence. I apologize for
confusing you in that regard. =)

My point was merely that YOUR problem is comparatively unique, and that
anyone attempting to analyze or comment upon your issue before being
provided the specifics that I ask for would be doing you a disservice. It's
not a qualitative analysis/priorization of your issue (again, I treat them
all the same- it's simply easier to get traction with others on Big Issues),
it's actually a technical analysis - I simply don't have anything to go on
because there's no data on the table. =)

As such, a reference to any other site is happily contextual irrelevant:
happy because hey, I'm here interested in YOUR problem. Let's do this. ;-)

Cheers,
-Zach
--
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"CBritton" <CBritton@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Thanks for clearing the dust on the guy with the HEX editor problem. I
> can
> give you full assurance that my wife thinks HEX is some kind of "spell"
> placed on someone by a witch. As I said her system is right out of the
> box
> and all she uses are IE 7 and Outlook 2003 and occasionally plays
> solitaire.
>
> It is not important to me whether these are unique problems in Microsoft's
> view. In my view, and you can share it by Googling the problem
> description,
> this problem is widespread and the only thing it is unique to is Windows
> Vista. I will happily post the error dumps for several of these crashes
> that
> have occurred in the past couple of days as soon as I can.
>
> "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:
>

Quote:

>>
>> As noted in the other diverged thread, this was caused by HHD Software's
>> Hex
>> Editor, where BoeroBoy I believe confirmed that removing that bad
>> software
>> stopped this crash from occuring.
>>
>> --
>> Speaking for myself only.
>> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>> --
>> "BoeroBoy" <boeroboy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:fd9b3aef-77e5-419f-8774-2deff91c36d9@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> > See post above - Mar 30
>> >
>> > Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
>> > Application Name: Explorer.EXE
>> > Application Version: 6.0.6000.16549
>> > Application Timestamp: 46d230c5
>> > Fault Module Name: ntdll.dll
>> > Fault Module Version: 6.0.6000.16386
>> > Fault Module Timestamp: 4549bdc9
>> > Exception Code: c0000005
>> > Exception Offset: 00042e7b
>> > OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.768.3
>> > Locale ID: 1033
>> > Additional Information 1: 8d13
>> > Additional Information 2: cdca9b1d21d12b77d84f02df48e34311
>> > Additional Information 3: 8d13
>> > Additional Information 4: cdca9b1d21d12b77d84f02df48e34311
>> >
>> > Extra information about the problem
>> > Bucket ID: 529202582
>> >
>> > After SP1:
>> > Problem signature
>> > Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
>> > Application Name: explorer.exe
>> > Application Version: 6.0.6001.18000
>> > Application Timestamp: 47918e5d
>> > Fault Module Name: ntdll.dll
>> > Fault Module Version: 6.0.6001.18000
>> > Fault Module Timestamp: 4791a7a6
>> > Exception Code: c0000005
>> > Exception Offset: 00047dd2
>> > OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3
>> > Locale ID: 1033
>> > Additional Information 1: fd00
>> > Additional Information 2: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160
>> > Additional Information 3: fd00
>> > Additional Information 4: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160
>> >
>> > Extra information about the problem
>> > Bucket ID: 636205138
>> >
>> >> What are the fault buckets for these errors according to the Problem
>> >> Reports
>> >> and Solutions Center control panel?
>> >>
>> >> These shouldn't happen on a well-configured system, but it's possible
>> >> that
>> >> all sorts of things could be on any given system. =\

>>
>>
>>

04-25-2008

It turns out they rewrote Hex Editor - you were using version 3, their
version 4 looks like it works great.

People should see that helpful response('hey, you probably want to
update...) from "Known solutions" soon.

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--
<boeroboy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

>I didn't ask their support team. Their shell context menu is my
> guess. Plenty of hex editors out there for me leave HHD installed.
> So is there a chance that in the near future, people who have my
> problem might get a useful response from the "known solutions for this
> problem" feature? You seemed to handle it pretty well. Forget the
> search dog, clippy the paper clip, and install wizard. I want a zachd
> popup to show up and check my list of installed apps against a list of
> known offenders! :-)
>
> John
>
>

Quote:

>> When things are operating within your process, you limit your
>> opportunities
>> to keep them from doing strange things. =\
>>
>> What did their support team say about this?
>>

Quote:

>> > :-p
>> > How the heck did they manage that? Shell context menu extensions?
>> > So much for protected memory.

>

04-18-2008	#21 (permalink)
wornways n/a posts	Re: SP1 doesn't fix "Windows Explorer has stopped responding." Ready toput my fista through vista! I'm a Firefox user, but I did find IE freezing and Explorer crashing a lot once I upgraded to Vista. However, the freezing and crashing has stopped (thus far) since I've systematically gone through my drivers and updated them to Vista specific versions of the same. I even removed and reinstalled drivers that seemed the same between XP and Vista, just in case Vista wanted to deal with the installation differently than XP would. For me this is standard procedure. I didn't expect things to run smoothly just after the upgrade, but after I get everything--and I mean -everything---properly reseated, to use a related metaphor. -- wornways Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
My System Specs

04-18-2008	#22 (permalink)
zachd [MSFT] n/a posts	Re: SP1 doesn't fix "Windows Explorer has stopped responding." Rea Whether or not these are "unique" problems is utterly irrelevant to me. I fought passionately to get a fix for an issue that was crashing many people, and I fought passionately to get a fix for an issue that had apparently only crashed one person ever. I simply like excellence. I apologize for confusing you in that regard. =) My point was merely that YOUR problem is comparatively unique, and that anyone attempting to analyze or comment upon your issue before being provided the specifics that I ask for would be doing you a disservice. It's not a qualitative analysis/priorization of your issue (again, I treat them all the same- it's simply easier to get traction with others on Big Issues), it's actually a technical analysis - I simply don't have anything to go on because there's no data on the table. =) As such, a reference to any other site is happily contextual irrelevant: happy because hey, I'm here interested in YOUR problem. Let's do this. ;-) Cheers, -Zach -- Speaking for myself only. See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. -- "CBritton" <CBritton@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:213068CE-A55C-40D8-86D1-B61F59778769@xxxxxx Quote: > Thanks for clearing the dust on the guy with the HEX editor problem. I > can > give you full assurance that my wife thinks HEX is some kind of "spell" > placed on someone by a witch. As I said her system is right out of the > box > and all she uses are IE 7 and Outlook 2003 and occasionally plays > solitaire. > > It is not important to me whether these are unique problems in Microsoft's > view. In my view, and you can share it by Googling the problem > description, > this problem is widespread and the only thing it is unique to is Windows > Vista. I will happily post the error dumps for several of these crashes > that > have occurred in the past couple of days as soon as I can. > > "zachd [MSFT]" wrote: > Quote: >> >> As noted in the other diverged thread, this was caused by HHD Software's >> Hex >> Editor, where BoeroBoy I believe confirmed that removing that bad >> software >> stopped this crash from occuring. >> >> -- >> Speaking for myself only. >> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info. >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >> rights. >> -- >> "BoeroBoy" <boeroboy@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:fd9b3aef-77e5-419f-8774-2deff91c36d9@xxxxxx Quote: >> > See post above - Mar 30 >> > >> > Problem Event Name: APPCRASH >> > Application Name: Explorer.EXE >> > Application Version: 6.0.6000.16549 >> > Application Timestamp: 46d230c5 >> > Fault Module Name: ntdll.dll >> > Fault Module Version: 6.0.6000.16386 >> > Fault Module Timestamp: 4549bdc9 >> > Exception Code: c0000005 >> > Exception Offset: 00042e7b >> > OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.768.3 >> > Locale ID: 1033 >> > Additional Information 1: 8d13 >> > Additional Information 2: cdca9b1d21d12b77d84f02df48e34311 >> > Additional Information 3: 8d13 >> > Additional Information 4: cdca9b1d21d12b77d84f02df48e34311 >> > >> > Extra information about the problem >> > Bucket ID: 529202582 >> > >> > After SP1: >> > Problem signature >> > Problem Event Name: APPCRASH >> > Application Name: explorer.exe >> > Application Version: 6.0.6001.18000 >> > Application Timestamp: 47918e5d >> > Fault Module Name: ntdll.dll >> > Fault Module Version: 6.0.6001.18000 >> > Fault Module Timestamp: 4791a7a6 >> > Exception Code: c0000005 >> > Exception Offset: 00047dd2 >> > OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3 >> > Locale ID: 1033 >> > Additional Information 1: fd00 >> > Additional Information 2: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160 >> > Additional Information 3: fd00 >> > Additional Information 4: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160 >> > >> > Extra information about the problem >> > Bucket ID: 636205138 >> > >> >> What are the fault buckets for these errors according to the Problem >> >> Reports >> >> and Solutions Center control panel? >> >> >> >> These shouldn't happen on a well-configured system, but it's possible >> >> that >> >> all sorts of things could be on any given system. =\ >> >> >>
My System Specs

04-25-2008	#23 (permalink)
zachd [MSFT] n/a posts	Re: SP1 doesn't fix "Windows Explorer has stopped responding." Ready to put my fista through vista! It turns out they rewrote Hex Editor - you were using version 3, their version 4 looks like it works great. People should see that helpful response('hey, you probably want to update...) from "Known solutions" soon. -- Speaking for myself only. See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. -- <boeroboy@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:88ae487e-4265-4c33-8efe-22fdd34fcbd9@xxxxxx Quote: >I didn't ask their support team. Their shell context menu is my > guess. Plenty of hex editors out there for me leave HHD installed. > So is there a chance that in the near future, people who have my > problem might get a useful response from the "known solutions for this > problem" feature? You seemed to handle it pretty well. Forget the > search dog, clippy the paper clip, and install wizard. I want a zachd > popup to show up and check my list of installed apps against a list of > known offenders! :-) > > John > > Quote: >> When things are operating within your process, you limit your >> opportunities >> to keep them from doing strange things. =\ >> >> What did their support team say about this? >> Quote: >> > :-p >> > How the heck did they manage that? Shell context menu extensions? >> > So much for protected memory. >
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