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Old 04-12-2008   #1 (permalink)
shortstop643


 
 

65 mb or 427 mb sp1 dowload?

hi

windows updates now has sp1 there on my system, yesterday it said 65mb,
today it shows 65mb-427mb, on microsoft web site it says to download from
windows update with the small download for 1 pc, so do you do a 65 mb
download or a 427, then on the web site it says 434.5 i think, rather
confusing?
it says this in the middle of the page on the link below, "do not click on
this for 1 pc"?

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

https://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...displaylang=en

thanks
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Old 04-12-2008   #2 (permalink)
C.B.


 
 

Re: 65 mb or 427 mb sp1 dowload?



"shortstop643" <nots@xxxxxx(do not spam)> wrote in message
news:5944967A-A091-4602-8E51-07682B3A6327@xxxxxx
Quote:

> hi
>
> windows updates now has sp1 there on my system, yesterday it said 65mb,
> today it shows 65mb-427mb, on microsoft web site it says to download from
> windows update with the small download for 1 pc, so do you do a 65 mb
> download or a 427, then on the web site it says 434.5 i think, rather
> confusing?
> it says this in the middle of the page on the link below, "do not click on
> this for 1 pc"?
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>
> https://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...displaylang=en
>
> thanks
> --
> There must be baseball in heaven?!
It says 65mb-427mb because the size of the download is dependent upon
your particular system and which software it is comprised of. Your system
will be scanned and the appropriate files will be downloaded.
I would go with the SP1 offered via Windows Update.

C.B.


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Old 04-12-2008   #3 (permalink)
shortstop643


 
 

RE: 65 mb or 427 mb sp1 dowload?

if that is the case i can't save it first . i'd rather be able to save it ,
yesterday it said 65mb, today it says 65mb to 427,, do i need do a defrag,
scan disc, back up all files?
--
There must be baseball in heaven?!


"shortstop643" wrote:
Quote:

> hi
>
> windows updates now has sp1 there on my system, yesterday it said 65mb,
> today it shows 65mb-427mb, on microsoft web site it says to download from
> windows update with the small download for 1 pc, so do you do a 65 mb
> download or a 427, then on the web site it says 434.5 i think, rather
> confusing?
> it says this in the middle of the page on the link below, "do not click on
> this for 1 pc"?
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>
> https://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...displaylang=en
>
> thanks
> --
> There must be baseball in heaven?!
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-12-2008   #4 (permalink)
Gary Mount


 
 

Re: 65 mb or 427 mb sp1 dowload?

The larger amount would be for a system that has not had any updates at all
yet, for example if it is a fresh install. The smaller size would be for
systems that have been updated with most updates prior to the release of
SP1.
No need to prep your system prior to updating to SP1. Always a good idea to
have your system backed up.

"shortstop643" <nots@xxxxxx(do not spam)> wrote in message
news:2E1FE6A8-6F2E-4173-ACDB-6B030FABF372@xxxxxx
Quote:

> if that is the case i can't save it first . i'd rather be able to save it
> ,
> yesterday it said 65mb, today it says 65mb to 427,, do i need do a defrag,
> scan disc, back up all files?
> --
> There must be baseball in heaven?!
>
>
> "shortstop643" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> hi
>>
>> windows updates now has sp1 there on my system, yesterday it said 65mb,
>> today it shows 65mb-427mb, on microsoft web site it says to download from
>> windows update with the small download for 1 pc, so do you do a 65 mb
>> download or a 427, then on the web site it says 434.5 i think, rather
>> confusing?
>> it says this in the middle of the page on the link below, "do not click
>> on
>> this for 1 pc"?
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>>
>> https://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...displaylang=en
>>
>> thanks
>> --
>> There must be baseball in heaven?!
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-12-2008   #5 (permalink)
Dwarf


 
 

RE: 65 mb or 427 mb sp1 dowload?

Hi,

My advice to you would be to go to the Windows download site and download
the full standalone version of SP1 (links given below for both 32-bit and
64-bit versions). If you place this onto a CD/DVD, it will be much quicker
for you to deploy if you ever have to reinstall your operating system. As a
bonus, both the 32-bit versions of SP1 and the Office 2007 service pack will
fit on a single 700MB CD. For 64-bit versions, you will need to use a DVD.
This can be quite a large update, depending on the state of your machine, and
problems can arise if your internet connection fails during installation if
you are doing so via Windows Update. Normal updates aren't a problem in this
respect, since they are generally much smaller.
Dwarf

32-bit
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

64-bit
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

"shortstop643" wrote:
Quote:

> hi
>
> windows updates now has sp1 there on my system, yesterday it said 65mb,
> today it shows 65mb-427mb, on microsoft web site it says to download from
> windows update with the small download for 1 pc, so do you do a 65 mb
> download or a 427, then on the web site it says 434.5 i think, rather
> confusing?
> it says this in the middle of the page on the link below, "do not click on
> this for 1 pc"?
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>
> https://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...displaylang=en
>
> thanks
> --
> There must be baseball in heaven?!
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-12-2008   #6 (permalink)
shortstop643


 
 

RE: 65 mb or 427 mb sp1 dowload?

Thanks

What is confusing is on the download page , it says, "do not click here"
fior one pc, which is my case, one of the posts here says it will scan my
system and use the right one, so the 65 mb is not really the right one for
32 bit? If i download the stand alone version, i think it is 434.5 mb, is
that divided into 2 parts, 65 mb and the balance between that and the 65? it
sounds like the full 434.5?
thanks
--
There must be baseball in heaven?!


"Dwarf" wrote:
Quote:

> Hi,
>
> My advice to you would be to go to the Windows download site and download
> the full standalone version of SP1 (links given below for both 32-bit and
> 64-bit versions). If you place this onto a CD/DVD, it will be much quicker
> for you to deploy if you ever have to reinstall your operating system. As a
> bonus, both the 32-bit versions of SP1 and the Office 2007 service pack will
> fit on a single 700MB CD. For 64-bit versions, you will need to use a DVD.
> This can be quite a large update, depending on the state of your machine, and
> problems can arise if your internet connection fails during installation if
> you are doing so via Windows Update. Normal updates aren't a problem in this
> respect, since they are generally much smaller.
> Dwarf
>
> 32-bit
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>
> 64-bit
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>
> "shortstop643" wrote:
>
Quote:

> > hi
> >
> > windows updates now has sp1 there on my system, yesterday it said 65mb,
> > today it shows 65mb-427mb, on microsoft web site it says to download from
> > windows update with the small download for 1 pc, so do you do a 65 mb
> > download or a 427, then on the web site it says 434.5 i think, rather
> > confusing?
> > it says this in the middle of the page on the link below, "do not click on
> > this for 1 pc"?
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
> >
> > https://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...displaylang=en
> >
> > thanks
> > --
> > There must be baseball in heaven?!
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-13-2008   #7 (permalink)
Dwarf


 
 

RE: 65 mb or 427 mb sp1 dowload?

Hi,

The SP1 upgrade/update does range from 65-427MB, depending on the status of
your system. Some systems require further updates before they can apply SP1,
and infact SP1 will not be available to them until they have applied these
updates. These updates are included in the standalone version, and they make
up the difference between the figure on Windows Update of 427MB and the
figure on the downloads page of 434.5MB. If your system is up to date, then
upgrading to SP1 shouldn't take too long, regardless of whether you choose
Windows Update or the standalone version, as both methods will only install
the updates that you actually require (with Service Packs, I personally
recommend the standalone versions, although, I have no doubt, other people
will beg to differ). Where the standalone version really comes into its own
is when you reinstall Vista. Using the standalone version in this case can
save you time as you have already downloaded the update and just need to
install it. This can save you up to an hour or more of download time, and
means that your system will be ready to go much quicker. In addition, having
the full standalone version means that your SP1 version is complete and that
you are less likely to have problems. Although Windows Update does scan your
system to ascertain what needs updating, it isn't infallible and errors can
occur. This can, in some cases, explain why an update has failed. My advice
in my previous post, therefore, still stands.
Dwarf

"shortstop643" wrote:
Quote:

> Thanks
>
> What is confusing is on the download page , it says, "do not click here"
> fior one pc, which is my case, one of the posts here says it will scan my
> system and use the right one, so the 65 mb is not really the right one for
> 32 bit? If i download the stand alone version, i think it is 434.5 mb, is
> that divided into 2 parts, 65 mb and the balance between that and the 65? it
> sounds like the full 434.5?
> thanks
> --
> There must be baseball in heaven?!
>
>
> "Dwarf" wrote:
>
Quote:

> > Hi,
> >
> > My advice to you would be to go to the Windows download site and download
> > the full standalone version of SP1 (links given below for both 32-bit and
> > 64-bit versions). If you place this onto a CD/DVD, it will be much quicker
> > for you to deploy if you ever have to reinstall your operating system. As a
> > bonus, both the 32-bit versions of SP1 and the Office 2007 service pack will
> > fit on a single 700MB CD. For 64-bit versions, you will need to use a DVD.
> > This can be quite a large update, depending on the state of your machine, and
> > problems can arise if your internet connection fails during installation if
> > you are doing so via Windows Update. Normal updates aren't a problem in this
> > respect, since they are generally much smaller.
> > Dwarf
> >
> > 32-bit
> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
> >
> > 64-bit
> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
> >
> > "shortstop643" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> > > hi
> > >
> > > windows updates now has sp1 there on my system, yesterday it said 65mb,
> > > today it shows 65mb-427mb, on microsoft web site it says to download from
> > > windows update with the small download for 1 pc, so do you do a 65 mb
> > > download or a 427, then on the web site it says 434.5 i think, rather
> > > confusing?
> > > it says this in the middle of the page on the link below, "do not click on
> > > this for 1 pc"?
> > >
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
> > >
> > > https://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...displaylang=en
> > >
> > > thanks
> > > --
> > > There must be baseball in heaven?!
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-13-2008   #8 (permalink)
shortstop643


 
 

RE: 65 mb or 427 mb sp1 dowload?

Thanks for the response
If the 434.5 is downloaded and put on cd, will it install the same way as
from updates, scanning the system or is that only done from updates? If
all updates have been done, ihave on 32 bit, what is the normal size there
abouts of the sp1 update 65mb to? Then what is the best way to back up your
system home premium to another drive, i have 4, 3 internal 1 extrnal, 160 on
each one.?
thanks in advance
--



"Dwarf" wrote:
Quote:

> Hi,
>
> The SP1 upgrade/update does range from 65-427MB, depending on the status of
> your system. Some systems require further updates before they can apply SP1,
> and infact SP1 will not be available to them until they have applied these
> updates. These updates are included in the standalone version, and they make
> up the difference between the figure on Windows Update of 427MB and the
> figure on the downloads page of 434.5MB. If your system is up to date, then
> upgrading to SP1 shouldn't take too long, regardless of whether you choose
> Windows Update or the standalone version, as both methods will only install
> the updates that you actually require (with Service Packs, I personally
> recommend the standalone versions, although, I have no doubt, other people
> will beg to differ). Where the standalone version really comes into its own
> is when you reinstall Vista. Using the standalone version in this case can
> save you time as you have already downloaded the update and just need to
> install it. This can save you up to an hour or more of download time, and
> means that your system will be ready to go much quicker. In addition, having
> the full standalone version means that your SP1 version is complete and that
> you are less likely to have problems. Although Windows Update does scan your
> system to ascertain what needs updating, it isn't infallible and errors can
> occur. This can, in some cases, explain why an update has failed. My advice
> in my previous post, therefore, still stands.
> Dwarf
>
> "shortstop643" wrote:
>
Quote:

> > Thanks
> >
> > What is confusing is on the download page , it says, "do not click here"
> > fior one pc, which is my case, one of the posts here says it will scan my
> > system and use the right one, so the 65 mb is not really the right one for
> > 32 bit? If i download the stand alone version, i think it is 434.5 mb, is
> > that divided into 2 parts, 65 mb and the balance between that and the 65? it
> > sounds like the full 434.5?
> > thanks
> > --
> > There must be baseball in heaven?!
> >
> >
> > "Dwarf" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > My advice to you would be to go to the Windows download site and download
> > > the full standalone version of SP1 (links given below for both 32-bit and
> > > 64-bit versions). If you place this onto a CD/DVD, it will be much quicker
> > > for you to deploy if you ever have to reinstall your operating system. As a
> > > bonus, both the 32-bit versions of SP1 and the Office 2007 service pack will
> > > fit on a single 700MB CD. For 64-bit versions, you will need to use a DVD.
> > > This can be quite a large update, depending on the state of your machine, and
> > > problems can arise if your internet connection fails during installation if
> > > you are doing so via Windows Update. Normal updates aren't a problem in this
> > > respect, since they are generally much smaller.
> > > Dwarf
> > >
> > > 32-bit
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
> > >
> > > 64-bit
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
> > >
> > > "shortstop643" wrote:
> > >
> > > > hi
> > > >
> > > > windows updates now has sp1 there on my system, yesterday it said 65mb,
> > > > today it shows 65mb-427mb, on microsoft web site it says to download from
> > > > windows update with the small download for 1 pc, so do you do a 65 mb
> > > > download or a 427, then on the web site it says 434.5 i think, rather
> > > > confusing?
> > > > it says this in the middle of the page on the link below, "do not click on
> > > > this for 1 pc"?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
> > > >
> > > > https://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...displaylang=en
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > > > --
> > > > There must be baseball in heaven?!
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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