Vista - The REAL reason of the ribbon and Aero Glass....

Office was getting nowhere...

After office 2000 the improvements in 2002 and especially 2003 were very
small...

so what would they have to do to sell more copies of office? (and windows
for that matter)

MAKE IT LOOK DIFFERENT!

Do we care about innovation? New Ideas? Real improvements? Noooooooo

We just want something that will look different so we can sell, even if it
is WORSE and horrible.

Its all about marketing... Remember MAC OSX is so good looking and MS always
follows
after people that do things right.. scrambling to copy the idea and to cash
in....
But they did it in a ridiculous way in the 2007 product line...

That is how Office 2007 got the RIBBON and the Perl...
And thats how Vista got Glass, the new Perl start button and the start
menu.......

Looks different therefore you are tricked into thinking it IS different..
but in reality its the same ol same ol...... but WORSE in my opinion.

People will pay their cash for NEW SKINS and very little new innovation....

where are the GENIUSES? Answer: not working at Microsoft or getting ignored!

Sorry MS... I praised you when you were on track... now you are blundering..
and I am not
a blind follower....

I love excel and word 2007, I love the new UI and the new SDK and internal
improvements, not the same about Vista the UI there is not much there, but I
can't say anything wrong about office, the new Word and Excel have tons of
improvements for developers.



"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
news:OSl%238kfzGHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Office was getting nowhere...
>
> After office 2000 the improvements in 2002 and especially 2003 were very
> small...
>
> so what would they have to do to sell more copies of office? (and windows
> for that matter)
>
> MAKE IT LOOK DIFFERENT!
>
> Do we care about innovation? New Ideas? Real improvements? Noooooooo
>
> We just want something that will look different so we can sell, even if it
> is WORSE and horrible.
>
> Its all about marketing... Remember MAC OSX is so good looking and MS
> always follows
> after people that do things right.. scrambling to copy the idea and to
> cash in....
> But they did it in a ridiculous way in the 2007 product line...
>
> That is how Office 2007 got the RIBBON and the Perl...
> And thats how Vista got Glass, the new Perl start button and the start
> menu.......
>
> Looks different therefore you are tricked into thinking it IS different..
> but in reality its the same ol same ol...... but WORSE in my opinion.
>
> People will pay their cash for NEW SKINS and very little new
> innovation....
>
> where are the GENIUSES? Answer: not working at Microsoft or getting
> ignored!
>
> Sorry MS... I praised you when you were on track... now you are
> blundering.. and I am not
> a blind follower....
>

I didn't know that these newsgroups are now gathering places for
conspiracy theorists. What's next? The real reason why the government
keeps Area 51 secret or the real killers of JFK?
Office 2007 has a huge amount of new and improved features. You are just
too focused and blinded by the ribbon to see them.

Patrick Schmid
--------------
http://pschmid.net

"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
news:OSl#8kfzGHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

> Office was getting nowhere...
>
> After office 2000 the improvements in 2002 and especially 2003 were very
> small...
>
> so what would they have to do to sell more copies of office? (and windows
> for that matter)
>
> MAKE IT LOOK DIFFERENT!
>
> Do we care about innovation? New Ideas? Real improvements? Noooooooo
>
> We just want something that will look different so we can sell, even if it
> is WORSE and horrible.
>
> Its all about marketing... Remember MAC OSX is so good looking and MS always
> follows
> after people that do things right.. scrambling to copy the idea and to cash
> in....
> But they did it in a ridiculous way in the 2007 product line...
>
> That is how Office 2007 got the RIBBON and the Perl...
> And thats how Vista got Glass, the new Perl start button and the start
> menu.......
>
> Looks different therefore you are tricked into thinking it IS different..
> but in reality its the same ol same ol...... but WORSE in my opinion.
>
> People will pay their cash for NEW SKINS and very little new innovation....
>
> where are the GENIUSES? Answer: not working at Microsoft or getting ignored!
>
> Sorry MS... I praised you when you were on track... now you are blundering..
> and I am not
> a blind follower....

You have never heard of the Roswell incident?

ok ok .. I will try to swallow the ribbon....

what is the latest beta I can get of office?
Is there a new one comming out soon?


"Patrick Schmid" <pds-ms@nospam.pschmid.net> wrote in message
news:uGHvBNhzGHA.4448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I didn't know that these newsgroups are now gathering places for conspiracy
>theorists. What's next? The real reason why the government keeps Area 51
>secret or the real killers of JFK?
> Office 2007 has a huge amount of new and improved features. You are just
> too focused and blinded by the ribbon to see them.
>
> Patrick Schmid
> --------------
> http://pschmid.net
>
> "John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
> news:OSl#8kfzGHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
>
>> Office was getting nowhere...
>>
>> After office 2000 the improvements in 2002 and especially 2003 were very
>> small...
>>
>> so what would they have to do to sell more copies of office? (and windows
>> for that matter)
>>
>> MAKE IT LOOK DIFFERENT!
>>
>> Do we care about innovation? New Ideas? Real improvements? Noooooooo
>>
>> We just want something that will look different so we can sell, even if
>> it
>> is WORSE and horrible.
>>
>> Its all about marketing... Remember MAC OSX is so good looking and MS
>> always
>> follows
>> after people that do things right.. scrambling to copy the idea and to
>> cash
>> in....
>> But they did it in a ridiculous way in the 2007 product line...
>>
>> That is how Office 2007 got the RIBBON and the Perl...
>> And thats how Vista got Glass, the new Perl start button and the start
>> menu.......
>>
>> Looks different therefore you are tricked into thinking it IS different..
>> but in reality its the same ol same ol...... but WORSE in my opinion.
>>
>> People will pay their cash for NEW SKINS and very little new
>> innovation....
>>
>> where are the GENIUSES? Answer: not working at Microsoft or getting
>> ignored!
>>
>> Sorry MS... I praised you when you were on track... now you are
>> blundering..
>> and I am not
>> a blind follower....
>

Do you have any of the Office 2007 betas installed?

The latest beta available is Office 2007 B2 and you can download it
from:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/prev...px?showIntro=n

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Office 2007 Preview Site:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/default.mspx
Office 2007 Community Articles/Tutorials:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/prev...e_archive.mspx

TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
news:uemQekizGHA.4576@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> ok ok .. I will try to swallow the ribbon....
>
> what is the latest beta I can get of office?
> Is there a new one comming out soon?

btw, I believe you mean "Pearl". Perl is a programming language.

And right now it's called the Microsoft Office Button in Office 2007.
Granted, everything is subject to change but that's not what they are
currently calling it.

~Beth Melton

"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
news:OSl%238kfzGHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> That is how Office 2007 got the RIBBON and the Perl...
> And thats how Vista got Glass, the new Perl start button and the
> start menu.......

Have you actually USED the ribbon? To say it is eye candy is rediculous.

Windows Vista is also much more than eye candy. Granted, it's not what was
originally envisioned ... but that doesn't make it insignifigant.

--
- JB

Windows Vista Support Faq
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/

Of course I have.

Btw, my personal guess is that the number of new and improved features
in 2007 is equivalent to all new & improved ones in Office XP and Office
2003 together.

Patrick Schmid
--------------
http://pschmid.net

"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
news:uemQekizGHA.4576@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:

> You have never heard of the Roswell incident?
>
> ok ok .. I will try to swallow the ribbon....
>
> what is the latest beta I can get of office?
> Is there a new one comming out soon?
>
>
> "Patrick Schmid" <pds-ms@nospam.pschmid.net> wrote in message
> news:uGHvBNhzGHA.4448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >I didn't know that these newsgroups are now gathering places for conspiracy
> >theorists. What's next? The real reason why the government keeps Area 51
> >secret or the real killers of JFK?
> > Office 2007 has a huge amount of new and improved features. You are just
> > too focused and blinded by the ribbon to see them.
> >
> > Patrick Schmid
> > --------------
> > http://pschmid.net
> >
> > "John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
> > news:OSl#8kfzGHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
> >
> >> Office was getting nowhere...
> >>
> >> After office 2000 the improvements in 2002 and especially 2003 were very
> >> small...
> >>
> >> so what would they have to do to sell more copies of office? (and windows
> >> for that matter)
> >>
> >> MAKE IT LOOK DIFFERENT!
> >>
> >> Do we care about innovation? New Ideas? Real improvements? Noooooooo
> >>
> >> We just want something that will look different so we can sell, even if
> >> it
> >> is WORSE and horrible.
> >>
> >> Its all about marketing... Remember MAC OSX is so good looking and MS
> >> always
> >> follows
> >> after people that do things right.. scrambling to copy the idea and to
> >> cash
> >> in....
> >> But they did it in a ridiculous way in the 2007 product line...
> >>
> >> That is how Office 2007 got the RIBBON and the Perl...
> >> And thats how Vista got Glass, the new Perl start button and the start
> >> menu.......
> >>
> >> Looks different therefore you are tricked into thinking it IS different..
> >> but in reality its the same ol same ol...... but WORSE in my opinion.
> >>
> >> People will pay their cash for NEW SKINS and very little new
> >> innovation....
> >>
> >> where are the GENIUSES? Answer: not working at Microsoft or getting
> >> ignored!
> >>
> >> Sorry MS... I praised you when you were on track... now you are
> >> blundering..
> >> and I am not
> >> a blind follower....
> >

New =/= Improved

Office XP/03 made some bad "improvements", IMO (like the file finder)

"Patrick Schmid" <pds-ms@nospam.pschmid.net> wrote in message
news:eZrX9qlzGHA.4648@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Of course I have.
>
> Btw, my personal guess is that the number of new and improved features in
> 2007 is equivalent to all new & improved ones in Office XP and Office 2003
> together.
>
> Patrick Schmid
> --------------
> http://pschmid.net
>