Vista - Fed up with Vista? Here are step-by-step instructions for downgrading back to the warm familiarity of Windows XP

Redmond is just trying to sell more books. ;^)

Earle

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> XP is an excellent OS. Vista is an excellent OS.

I have SP2 XP and it really is the most stable OS I have ever had. Vista
crashed a bit but it goes OK since SP1 was installed. It will get better,
people should just be patient. I remember the ranting a long time ago with
Win 95 .... Bring back my dos etc ...
Cheers
http://warworld13.myminicity.com/

Lots of changes in Vista do not have any purpose. I object to having to
retrain myself so some Docker-wearing twenty-something can justify their
Harvard diploma in user interface design and demonstrate their supposed
marketing expertise. Change for the sake of change is crap, but sure if
change is necessary for real progress then I will change when I am ready to
do so. I believe I make myself clear here, and I do not need you putting
words in my mouth.

Retraining people to adapt to new technology is big business, I understand
that, but I do not believe that "Windows Desktop Experience Mentor" is a
valid professional designation. Of course new OS will be needed but it is a
lot like haute couture. A pair of jeans and a hairy chest works just fine
for me.

Cheers,

Earle

"Nicholas Hall" <niknikNOSPAM1971@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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I have multiple computers with vista, I also support many people who have
vista. That does not mean I have to really like it.
At most I just bear with the crap MS has pushed out. All the problems are
not due to lack of knowlage on my part.
Its clearly bad design. I never ever said anything bad about any version of
windows with the exception of windows Me,
and I have never said a bad word in any newsgroup of which I have been part
of with the exception of the vista newsgroup.

Someone who knows what he is doing has to speak up.

Whenever anyone has I problem I solve it.

My personal record is that there has never been one problem I was unable to
fix in my 10 year experience on fixing and supporting computers.

Generally I am known as Mr. Fix it. These are not my words but other
peoples...

But technical stuff is only a part of what I do ... I try my best to achieve
mastery on whatever I do and I am in constant study.

Your conclusions about me are incorrect, perhaps based on the fact that I
also post funny stuff in here...

Don't confuse being silly on purpose with the ability to be dead serious
when there is a need.

"C.B." <notreallyc.b.mullen@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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I do not care what other said back then.

I thought XP was my savior from the very first time I booted it and saw that
it was about 100 times more stable as win98

But let me make this clear MVP ok?

Just because MS had a history of problematic products, and people whining
does not mean that Vista could not have been top quality with very little
problems.

Vista is 2007 technology, in a technologically mature era, mistakes have
been overcome and the know how exists even for linux people to make superb
OS.

The experience they gained with XP (eXPerience) especially SP2, and the time
and money they invested for Vista, should
have been a guarantee that vista would be a =

SUPER DUPER STABLE AND STREAMLINED PRODUCT! Not the crap it is.

There is big worldwide disappointment and rejection of Vista, if you wish to
stick your head in the sand about this, ok...

but let us say the truth as it is please.

How low can you get? Vista enthusiast? HOLY COW!





"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:19:28 -0500, Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
Consider that your definition is flawed, users of this news group might
be interested in how to upgrade to XP or to load and Linux and co-exist
with Vista if they can find resolution to their issues. These are in the
spirit of Usenet proper. An open, multi-opinionated forum. If it is
unacceptable to you, go to a private, moderated, lets feel good MVP one.

I am beginning to think MVP is "Microsoft Vista Pusher". While I have
seen quality posts from you and others, I have also seen you bite at
people for real issues that are just fed up with Vista issues. They want
a way out. And may not want the double, triple dipping at the till.
Which is often the hidden answer, spend more of your money.

It is clear Vista sucks. It is printed in articles with substantial
evidence that it's performance is in the bottom of the bucket. Microsoft
can't sue them, because they can prove their findings. No amount of RaRa
Vista is going to change the facts.

If Microsoft really wants to find out how bad Vista is, let new home PCs
from Best buy ask the users outright. Put out a patch to ask them.

WeSayso Corp has some soul searching to do here.

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
I did until I bought hardware that was only supported in XP.
It may well be compromised if it is run by admins that don't know what
the f@#k they are doing, but as long as the hardware & the software
necessary can run on W2K there is no real reason not to continue to use
it, at this late date.
Except this tune (moving to Vista) is more like going from early 9x to
ME, than W2K to XP.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Former Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:36:41 -0500, Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
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1) People were ALLOWED to buy their "home" PCs with an OS of choice at
one time. Now I know their is this elitist crap of owning a full version
of "Ultimate" - but makes the rest of us feel like crap. Especially when
needed features like policy editor are missing. And is that Pricey!
While everything else electronic has gone down in price, Vista "Ultimate"
full version is more than 5 times the prices of W98.

2) Many of us waited until XP SP1 was out. I bought my first XP a few
months before SP1 and had no issues at all. A clean, smooth. copy the
data over on the network form W2000 and it went real quick and easy. Not
like Vista, Vista is slow, does not work with many network sharing
arrangements and if you at a __sub_class__ "Premium" OEM user you don't
have the policy editor to make it work. So you resort to Secure Shell
copy, where in Linux on the same hardware approaches 20 times the speed
of Vista.

3) There is now the double dip syndrome. If you don't like Vista OEM,
but want a M$ OS, you have to spread more money. I think over time
customers will revolt over this. I sure would not buy 2 GM cars to get
one that works right.

Vista is a farce.

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:11:38 -0600, Earle Horton wrote:
Yep, they could have put it in the help tab.

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:32:07 +0100, Nicholas Hall wrote:
Why not?

If I buy a GM car, and it was going to be obsolete in 3 years and I could
not get support for it should I buy it with such a short lifetime? If I
thought my TV would stop working with everything in 3 years, i would not
buy it unless it was $29 or less.

What does Vista offer that cannot be done with XP today? Name me ONE
SINGLE THING!!!! (Besides run slower). Make it good so people can see
if it is worth it.

Vista is out of gas on the motivation side, maybe never had any. It has
to be rammed down your throat like a razor blade. No choice, just
WeSayso Fud Corp. (Invert the W for the pun)

Heck, you get XP running smoothly without daily security holes and you
trash it for Vista beta ware.