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Old 04-29-2008   #1 (permalink)


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Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue

Hi. I'm having a problem with Vista recognizing my 8gb of ram. It's seen by the bios at start up (I have memory remap enabled) and it's seen in my system specs when I right click on the computer icon (also in winver).

But when I look in the task manager, it only shows 3346mb of physical ram.

Anyone know why?

PS I have the pagefile disabled. Would that cause it?

Edit: Restoring the pagefile changes nothing. I'm at a loss. Is Vista using all the ram but just not showing it in the task manager?

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Last edited by kenhes; 04-29-2008 at 10:49 PM..
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Old 04-30-2008   #2 (permalink)
marfi


 
 

Re: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue

Użytkownik "kenhes" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> napisał w wiadomo¶ci
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> PS I have the pagefile disabled. Would that cause it?
No. I have Vista64 with 8GBRAM and disabled pagefile.
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Old 04-30-2008   #3 (permalink)


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Re: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by kenhes View Post
Hi. I'm having a problem with Vista recognizing my 8gb of ram. It's seen by the bios at start up (I have memory remap enabled) and it's seen in my system specs when I right click on the computer icon (also in winver).

But when I look in the task manager, it only shows 3346mb of physical ram.

Anyone know why?

PS I have the pagefile disabled. Would that cause it?

Edit: Restoring the pagefile changes nothing. I'm at a loss. Is Vista using all the ram but just not showing it in the task manager?
Your hardware is most likely taking up most of your memory space. Windows Vista works differently than previous versions of Windows, so not every bit of memory space is being used just by your applications. A lot of it will be utilized by windows in order to run hard ware profiles in a fast and timely manner.
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Old 04-30-2008   #4 (permalink)
Bob Campbell


 
 

Re: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue

"kenhes" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> Hi. I'm having a problem with Vista recognizing my 8gb of ram. It's seen
> by the bios at start up (I have memory remap enabled) and it's seen in
> my system specs when I right click on the computer icon (also in
> winver).
>
> But when I look in the task manager, it only shows 3346mb of physical
> ram.
>
> Anyone know why?
Sounds like you are running 32 bit Vista.
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> PS I have the pagefile disabled. Would that cause it?
No, but it is a sign of your stupidity. Why would you disable the page
file? Having "lots of RAM" does not eliminate the need for paging. I am
continually amazed at the number of people who still think this is a good
idea!

Why don't you disable your CPU cache while you are at it? Uninstall your
video driver and use plain VGA?

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Old 04-30-2008   #5 (permalink)


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Re: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Bob Campbell View Post
"kenhes" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> Hi. I'm having a problem with Vista recognizing my 8gb of ram. It's seen
> by the bios at start up (I have memory remap enabled) and it's seen in
> my system specs when I right click on the computer icon (also in
> winver).
>
> But when I look in the task manager, it only shows 3346mb of physical
> ram.
>
> Anyone know why?
Sounds like you are running 32 bit Vista.
Quote:

> PS I have the pagefile disabled. Would that cause it?
No, but it is a sign of your stupidity. Why would you disable the page
file? Having "lots of RAM" does not eliminate the need for paging. I am
continually amazed at the number of people who still think this is a good
idea!

Why don't you disable your CPU cache while you are at it? Uninstall your
video driver and use plain VGA?
Thanks for the helpful reply. I'll do what I like with my own system. The pagefile is a relic of the past. It's there solely to replace ram which in the past was expensive. Now I have more ram, I'm going to force Vista to use it. And I might add I've had no adverse effects. Quite the opposite actually because using ram instead of slow hard drives is infinitely faster.

Why the hell would I disable the fast cpu cache? Or my video card which is light years ahead of vga. They're incomparable comparisons. Idiot.

Maybe you should try before you form your opinions.

To the other contributors:
Thanks for your constructive replies. Looking around the net for task manager images seems to show that all is as it should be.

Last edited by kenhes; 04-30-2008 at 09:07 AM..
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Old 04-30-2008   #6 (permalink)
dennis


 
 

Re: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue

Bob Campbell wrote:
Quote:

> No, but it is a sign of your stupidity. Why would you disable the page
> file? Having "lots of RAM" does not eliminate the need for paging.
> I am continually amazed at the number of people who still think this is
> a good idea!
I think it depends a great deal on how much ram is installed and what
the computer is used for. As long as you don't run out of ram, you'll be
just fine without a paging file.
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Old 04-30-2008   #7 (permalink)
Tim Slattery


 
 

Re: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue

kenhes <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote:
Quote:

>
>Hi. I'm having a problem with Vista recognizing my 8gb of ram. It's seen
>by the bios at start up (I have memory remap enabled) and it's seen in
>my system specs when I right click on the computer icon (also in
>winver).
Quote:

>But when I look in the task manager, it only shows 3346mb of physical
>ram.
This is probably a dumb question, but are you sure you're looking at
total RAM, not available RAM?
Quote:

>PS I have the pagefile disabled. Would that cause it?
I wouldn't do that myself, but if it caused a problem I don't think it
would be this one.

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Old 04-30-2008   #8 (permalink)


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Re: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue

I respect you opinion (you didn't call me stupid or tell me what to do), but as I say, I've experienced no adverse effects.

Look at the image I attached in the first post to decide if I'm looking at the memory correctly. As you'll see on the left, vista reports the system having 8gb. But in the task manager on the right, it reports physical memory as 3326mb. It seems like it's hitting the 32bit limit for some reason. Which is weird considering it's vista 64bit.

Last edited by kenhes; 04-30-2008 at 12:57 PM..
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Old 04-30-2008   #9 (permalink)
Bob Campbell


 
 

Re: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue

"kenhes" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> Thanks for the helpful reply. I'll do what I like with my own system.
> The pagefile is a relic of the past.
No, it isn't. You clearly have no idea what it is for.
Quote:

> It's there solely to replace ram
> which in the past was expensive.
No, it isn't. You clearly have no idea what it is for.
Quote:

> Now I have more ram, I'm going to force
> Vista to use it. And I might add I've had no adverse effects. Quite the
> opposite actually because using ram instead of slow hard drives is
> infinitely faster.
I'll repeat since you don't understand. The pagefile is NOT there to
"replace ram". The time will come when you will run out of ram and the
system will crash. That is what happens when you disable the page file.
Hopefully you will lose some irreplaceable data files in the process.

Moron.

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Old 04-30-2008   #10 (permalink)
John


 
 

Re: Vista 64 bit 8gb ram issue

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:58:43 -0500, kenhes <guest@xxxxxx-email.com>
wrote:
Quote:

>Thanks for the helpful reply. I'll do what I like with my own system.
>The pagefile is a relic of the past. It's there solely to replace ram
>which in the past was expensive. Now I have more ram, I'm going to force
>Vista to use it. And I might add I've had no adverse effects. Quite the
>opposite actually because using ram instead of slow hard drives is
>infinitely faster.
I've run systems with no paging file for a short time however given
how cheap hard drives are, I'm currently running a 10GB page on a 20GB
partiton on my secondary RAID. I also relocate all temp directories to
that partition. Combining the 10GB swap with 4GB of RAM gives me a
total swap space of 14GB which is more than enough to run even Vista
in VM.

JD
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