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| Guest | disk thrashing Anyone know where I could find any freeware that would troubleshoot why my hard drive thrashs for five minutes after I boot up? -- Message posted via WindowsKB.com http://www.windowskb.com/Uwe/Forums....vista/200805/1 |
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| Guest | Re: disk thrashing On Sun, 04 May 2008 20:21:08 GMT, "jimb11 via WindowsKB.com" <u25693@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >Anyone know where I could find any freeware that would troubleshoot why my >hard drive thrashs for five minutes after I boot up? "automatic" plus while all of the startup services that you can see by running msconfig are loading/starting. Look at both and choose what you want to start when Windows loads. |
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| Guest | Re: disk thrashing "jimb11 via WindowsKB.com" <u25693@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:83a9e96cce5ac@xxxxxx Quote: > Anyone know where I could find any freeware that would troubleshoot why my > hard drive thrashs for five minutes after I boot up? > > -- > Message posted via WindowsKB.com > http://www.windowskb.com/Uwe/Forums....vista/200805/1 > service. Superfetch is basically trying to predict what files you are likely to access during the next session and loads them into RAM. Problem is, in my experience the hard drive gets thrashed for 10 minutes after every bootup and 99% of those files won't be accessed anyway. The files you do access will be cached into a buffer anyway so it's a bit of a pointless service. FF |
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| Guest | Re: disk thrashing My computer always has a few minutes of disk activity ("thrashing" if you like) after bootup as it is loading programs and services. Seems like normal activity to me. I wouldn't call Superfetch pointless. My Vista computer has always been more responsive than XP - on the same hardware. Possibly Superfetch it the reason. You might check out this: SuperFetch does more than caching. Windows Vista runs a SuperFetch service that analyzes your application behavior and usage patterns, meaning that it tracks which applications you request the most. A good example would be your activity as you start the PC in the morning: You launch Outlook to fetch email, a messenger, a web browser and probably additional applications such as a development environment. If you do this repeatedly and ideally in the same order, SuperFetch will recognize this and then proactively populate these applications into all available main memory the next time you start the PC. You should only wait for a few minutes before you commence work to give the SuperFetch service the time to "superfetch" your applications. The result is simple and impressive: As you return from your coffee run and launch your applications, they are available much quicker, as they already populate your main memory. Similar to conventional Windows caching, SuperFetch will not touch its cached data unless there is an application that requires main memory space. Windows will not prioritize the SuperFetch feature over memory requests by applications, as this would cause the memory management to swap data onto the swap file, which of course would slow down the whole system considerably. Simply spoke, SuperFetch tries to relocate application data from the slow hard drive into all available memory. It utilizes the available capacity to create a so-called warm memory state for the single purpose of making applications available almost instantaneously. However, SuperFetch needs a certain amount of main memory. At only 512 MB RAM size, the feature won't be very efficient, as Windows plus 2-3 applications will already eat up the total memory capacity. There won't be main memory space left to pre-cache application data. If you don't work with multiple applications at a time, 1 GB should be enough to see a positive impact of SuperFetch when compared to Windows XP. However, we experienced the best results at a main memory capacity of 2 GB - more won't hurt either. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...yzed,1532.html "Freddy Flares" <blob@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:mrudnVeOIJr8zYPVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@xxxxxx Quote: > "jimb11 via WindowsKB.com" <u25693@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:83a9e96cce5ac@xxxxxx Quote: >> Anyone know where I could find any freeware that would troubleshoot why >> my >> hard drive thrashs for five minutes after I boot up? >> >> -- >> Message posted via WindowsKB.com >> http://www.windowskb.com/Uwe/Forums....vista/200805/1 >> > Disable the Windows Search service (Indexing) and also the Superfetch > service. > > Superfetch is basically trying to predict what files you are likely to > access during the next session and loads them into RAM. > > Problem is, in my experience the hard drive gets thrashed for 10 minutes > after every bootup and 99% of those files won't be accessed anyway. The > files you do access will be cached into a buffer anyway so it's a bit of a > pointless service. > > FF |
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| Guest | Re: disk thrashing "David P" <dgprozzo@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uYh6LanrIHA.3716@xxxxxx Quote: > My computer always has a few minutes of disk activity ("thrashing" if you > like) after bootup as it is loading programs and services. Seems like > normal activity to me. even doing anything, the system should just sit there waiting for me to ask something of it. SuperFetch is not something I asked for, I'll have it disabled thank you. Quote: > > I wouldn't call Superfetch pointless. My Vista computer has always been > more responsive than XP - on the same hardware. Possibly Superfetch it > the reason. > > You might check out this: > > SuperFetch does more than caching. Windows Vista runs a SuperFetch service > that analyzes your application behavior and usage patterns, meaning that > it tracks which applications you request the most. A good example would be > your activity as you start the PC in the morning: You launch Outlook to > fetch email, a messenger, a web browser and probably additional > applications such as a development environment. If you do this repeatedly > and ideally in the same order, SuperFetch will recognize this and then > proactively populate these applications into all available main memory the > next time you start the PC. You should only wait for a few minutes before > you commence work to give the SuperFetch service the time to "superfetch" > your applications. > > The result is simple and impressive: As you return from your coffee run > and launch your applications, they are available much quicker, as they > already populate your main memory. Similar to conventional Windows > caching, SuperFetch will not touch its cached data unless there is an > application that requires main memory space. Windows will not prioritize > the SuperFetch feature over memory requests by applications, as this would > cause the memory management to swap data onto the swap file, which of > course would slow down the whole system considerably. > > Simply spoke, SuperFetch tries to relocate application data from the slow > hard drive into all available memory. It utilizes the available capacity > to create a so-called warm memory state for the single purpose of making > applications available almost instantaneously. However, SuperFetch needs a > certain amount of main memory. At only 512 MB RAM size, the feature won't > be very efficient, as Windows plus 2-3 applications will already eat up > the total memory capacity. There won't be main memory space left to > pre-cache application data. If you don't work with multiple applications > at a time, 1 GB should be enough to see a positive impact of SuperFetch > when compared to Windows XP. However, we experienced the best results at a > main memory capacity of 2 GB - more won't hurt either. > > http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...yzed,1532.html > > the nooks and crannies of my hard disc at every bootup, accessing thousands of files that I haven't touched in months. That's got to be inefficient surely. A better idea would be a fast launcher item in the Start menu where I could add programs/files of my choosing. Besides, if you've just made your coffee and you want apps to start up faster, why not just stick 'em in Startup anyway? FF. |
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| Guest | Re: disk thrashing On Sun, 04 May 2008 20:21:08 GMT, "jimb11 via WindowsKB.com" <u25693@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >Anyone know where I could find any freeware that would troubleshoot why my >hard drive thrashs for five minutes after I boot up? these applications. If you have installed a lot of applications, then you may get slow startups and shutdowns. Remove applications you no longer need or use. Some may be getting online updates. Make sure you hard drive has at least 20% free space and defrag your drive. |
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