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05-26-2006
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| | UAC (User Account Control) Wow! There is a huge difference of opinion on this feature. From TechWeb article http://www.techweb.com/showArticle.j...leID=159900001 Much-Improved User Account Control The most reviled feature of earlier Vista builds, User Account Control (UAC), has thankfully been reined in with Beta 2. For the first time, it is actually useful, and goes some way toward solving a security problem that has long bedeviled Windows. From PC Magazine http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1965703,00.asp One of the significant differences in Beta 2 is that the implementation of UAC (user account control) privilege elevation is much more intrusive-objectionably so, in our experience so far. It looks like one of these organizations has a "private" agenda. I personally do not find it all that intrusive. -- Regards, Richard Urban MVP Windows Shell/User (using Vista 5384) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew half as much as you think you know, You would realize you don't know what you thought you knew. |
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05-26-2006
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| | Re: UAC (User Account Control) They are not using Vista on daily use. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:AD04E313-9951-4BF0-BFE1-E0B12FC24C80@microsoft.com... > Wow! There is a huge difference of opinion on this feature. > > From TechWeb article > http://www.techweb.com/showArticle.j...leID=159900001 > > Much-Improved User Account Control > > The most reviled feature of earlier Vista builds, User Account Control > (UAC), has thankfully been reined in with Beta 2. For the first time, it > is > actually useful, and goes some way toward solving a security problem that > has long bedeviled Windows. > > > > From PC Magazine http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1965703,00.asp > > One of the significant differences in Beta 2 is that the implementation of > UAC (user account control) privilege elevation is much more > intrusive-objectionably so, in our experience so far. > > It looks like one of these organizations has a "private" agenda. > > > > I personally do not find it all that intrusive. > > > -- > Regards, > > > Richard Urban > MVP Windows Shell/User > (using Vista 5384) > > Quote from George Ankner: > If you knew half as much as you think you know, > You would realize you don't know what you thought you knew. > > |
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05-26-2006
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| | Re: UAC (User Account Control) I don't have too much of a problem with the dimming effect they've added to UAC in theory, but in its current implementation it is just plain ugly. The whole screen flickers rudely before displaying in a dimmed state and flickers again when switching back to normal. It looks really bad, like there's something wrong with my monitor or like it's switching video modes. I was expecting some sort of smooth transition to the dimmed state and back. I filed a bug on it. Of course the UAC dialog in general is starting to become ineffective on me. I'm already not bothering to read it more often than not. I suspect many others will do the same, rendering it as useless as the "are you sure (Y/N)?" prompts of yore. PS: I was thinking, if MS really wants to make the UAC experience effective, they should add some demonic laughter when the screen dims and set the "Continue" button on fire. "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:AD04E313-9951-4BF0-BFE1-E0B12FC24C80@microsoft.com... > Wow! There is a huge difference of opinion on this feature. > > From TechWeb article > http://www.techweb.com/showArticle.j...leID=159900001 > > Much-Improved User Account Control > > The most reviled feature of earlier Vista builds, User Account Control > (UAC), has thankfully been reined in with Beta 2. For the first time, it > is > actually useful, and goes some way toward solving a security problem that > has long bedeviled Windows. > > > > From PC Magazine http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1965703,00.asp > > One of the significant differences in Beta 2 is that the implementation of > UAC (user account control) privilege elevation is much more > intrusive-objectionably so, in our experience so far. > > It looks like one of these organizations has a "private" agenda. > > > > I personally do not find it all that intrusive. > > > -- > Regards, > > > Richard Urban > MVP Windows Shell/User > (using Vista 5384) > > Quote from George Ankner: > If you knew half as much as you think you know, > You would realize you don't know what you thought you knew. > > |
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05-26-2006
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| | Re: UAC (User Account Control) Well, in theory it's meant to go from: Glass desktop - instantly switch to slightly dimmed background and Aero Basic UAC prompt - back to normal. I guess you just need a uber-fast computer to have it work properly  )-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up! --: Original message follows :-- "Chris Altmann" <avalid@emailaddress.zoo> wrote in message news:OOTe7lQgGHA.4404@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >I don't have too much of a problem with the dimming effect they've added to >UAC in theory, but in its current implementation it is just plain ugly. The >whole screen flickers rudely before displaying in a dimmed state and >flickers again when switching back to normal. It looks really bad, like >there's something wrong with my monitor or like it's switching video modes. >I was expecting some sort of smooth transition to the dimmed state and >back. I filed a bug on it. > > Of course the UAC dialog in general is starting to become ineffective on > me. I'm already not bothering to read it more often than not. I suspect > many others will do the same, rendering it as useless as the "are you sure > (Y/N)?" prompts of yore. > > PS: I was thinking, if MS really wants to make the UAC experience > effective, they should add some demonic laughter when the screen dims and > set the "Continue" button on fire. > > "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:AD04E313-9951-4BF0-BFE1-E0B12FC24C80@microsoft.com... >> Wow! There is a huge difference of opinion on this feature. >> >> From TechWeb article >> http://www.techweb.com/showArticle.j...leID=159900001 >> >> Much-Improved User Account Control >> >> The most reviled feature of earlier Vista builds, User Account Control >> (UAC), has thankfully been reined in with Beta 2. For the first time, it >> is >> actually useful, and goes some way toward solving a security problem that >> has long bedeviled Windows. >> >> >> >> From PC Magazine http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1965703,00.asp >> >> One of the significant differences in Beta 2 is that the implementation >> of >> UAC (user account control) privilege elevation is much more >> intrusive-objectionably so, in our experience so far. >> >> It looks like one of these organizations has a "private" agenda. >> >> >> >> I personally do not find it all that intrusive. >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> >> Richard Urban >> MVP Windows Shell/User >> (using Vista 5384) >> >> Quote from George Ankner: >> If you knew half as much as you think you know, >> You would realize you don't know what you thought you knew. >> >> > > |
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05-26-2006
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| | Re: UAC (User Account Control) It sucks though that the UAC dialog is not Glass enabled. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message news:eJXojJRgGHA.3996@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Well, in theory it's meant to go from: > > Glass desktop - instantly switch to slightly dimmed background and Aero > Basic UAC prompt - back to normal. > > I guess you just need a uber-fast computer to have it work properly )> > -- > Zack Whittaker > » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk > » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org > » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk > » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no > rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and > not > of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared > that up! > > --: Original message follows :-- > "Chris Altmann" <avalid@emailaddress.zoo> wrote in message > news:OOTe7lQgGHA.4404@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>I don't have too much of a problem with the dimming effect they've added >>to UAC in theory, but in its current implementation it is just plain ugly. >>The whole screen flickers rudely before displaying in a dimmed state and >>flickers again when switching back to normal. It looks really bad, like >>there's something wrong with my monitor or like it's switching video >>modes. I was expecting some sort of smooth transition to the dimmed state >>and back. I filed a bug on it. >> >> Of course the UAC dialog in general is starting to become ineffective on >> me. I'm already not bothering to read it more often than not. I suspect >> many others will do the same, rendering it as useless as the "are you >> sure (Y/N)?" prompts of yore. >> >> PS: I was thinking, if MS really wants to make the UAC experience >> effective, they should add some demonic laughter when the screen dims and >> set the "Continue" button on fire. >> >> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:AD04E313-9951-4BF0-BFE1-E0B12FC24C80@microsoft.com... >>> Wow! There is a huge difference of opinion on this feature. >>> >>> From TechWeb article >>> http://www.techweb.com/showArticle.j...leID=159900001 >>> >>> Much-Improved User Account Control >>> >>> The most reviled feature of earlier Vista builds, User Account Control >>> (UAC), has thankfully been reined in with Beta 2. For the first time, it >>> is >>> actually useful, and goes some way toward solving a security problem >>> that >>> has long bedeviled Windows. >>> >>> >>> >>> From PC Magazine http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1965703,00.asp >>> >>> One of the significant differences in Beta 2 is that the implementation >>> of >>> UAC (user account control) privilege elevation is much more >>> intrusive-objectionably so, in our experience so far. >>> >>> It looks like one of these organizations has a "private" agenda. >>> >>> >>> >>> I personally do not find it all that intrusive. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> Richard Urban >>> MVP Windows Shell/User >>> (using Vista 5384) >>> >>> Quote from George Ankner: >>> If you knew half as much as you think you know, >>> You would realize you don't know what you thought you knew. >>> >>> >> >> > > |
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05-27-2006
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| | Re: UAC (User Account Control) I don't actually think it's possible yer know - sure someone told me that it can't be done... .... but it can't be that difficult? -- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up! --: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:%23k26WdRgGHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > It sucks though that the UAC dialog is not Glass enabled. > -- > -- > Andre > Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com > Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com > Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre > http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta > > "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message > news:eJXojJRgGHA.3996@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Well, in theory it's meant to go from: >> >> Glass desktop - instantly switch to slightly dimmed background and Aero >> Basic UAC prompt - back to normal. >> >> I guess you just need a uber-fast computer to have it work properly )>> >> -- >> Zack Whittaker >> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk >> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org >> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk >> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no >> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and >> not >> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared >> that up! >> >> --: Original message follows :-- >> "Chris Altmann" <avalid@emailaddress.zoo> wrote in message >> news:OOTe7lQgGHA.4404@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>I don't have too much of a problem with the dimming effect they've added >>>to UAC in theory, but in its current implementation it is just plain >>>ugly. The whole screen flickers rudely before displaying in a dimmed >>>state and flickers again when switching back to normal. It looks really >>>bad, like there's something wrong with my monitor or like it's switching >>>video modes. I was expecting some sort of smooth transition to the dimmed >>>state and back. I filed a bug on it. >>> >>> Of course the UAC dialog in general is starting to become ineffective on >>> me. I'm already not bothering to read it more often than not. I suspect >>> many others will do the same, rendering it as useless as the "are you >>> sure (Y/N)?" prompts of yore. >>> >>> PS: I was thinking, if MS really wants to make the UAC experience >>> effective, they should add some demonic laughter when the screen dims >>> and set the "Continue" button on fire. >>> >>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:AD04E313-9951-4BF0-BFE1-E0B12FC24C80@microsoft.com... >>>> Wow! There is a huge difference of opinion on this feature. >>>> >>>> From TechWeb article >>>> http://www.techweb.com/showArticle.j...leID=159900001 >>>> >>>> Much-Improved User Account Control >>>> >>>> The most reviled feature of earlier Vista builds, User Account Control >>>> (UAC), has thankfully been reined in with Beta 2. For the first time, >>>> it is >>>> actually useful, and goes some way toward solving a security problem >>>> that >>>> has long bedeviled Windows. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From PC Magazine http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1965703,00.asp >>>> >>>> One of the significant differences in Beta 2 is that the implementation >>>> of >>>> UAC (user account control) privilege elevation is much more >>>> intrusive-objectionably so, in our experience so far. >>>> >>>> It looks like one of these organizations has a "private" agenda. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I personally do not find it all that intrusive. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard Urban >>>> MVP Windows Shell/User >>>> (using Vista 5384) >>>> >>>> Quote from George Ankner: >>>> If you knew half as much as you think you know, >>>> You would realize you don't know what you thought you knew. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
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05-27-2006
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| | Re: UAC (User Account Control) Its possible, they just don't consider it a priority. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message news:u$3475XgGHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >I don't actually think it's possible yer know - sure someone told me that >it can't be done... > ... but it can't be that difficult? > > -- > Zack Whittaker > » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk > » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org > » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk > » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no > rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and > not > of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared > that up! > > --: Original message follows :-- > "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:%23k26WdRgGHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> It sucks though that the UAC dialog is not Glass enabled. >> -- >> -- >> Andre >> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com >> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com >> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre >> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta >> >> "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:eJXojJRgGHA.3996@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Well, in theory it's meant to go from: >>> >>> Glass desktop - instantly switch to slightly dimmed background and Aero >>> Basic UAC prompt - back to normal. >>> >>> I guess you just need a uber-fast computer to have it work properly )>>> >>> -- >>> Zack Whittaker >>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk >>> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org >>> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk >>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no >>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and >>> not >>> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we >>> cleared >>> that up! >>> >>> --: Original message follows :-- >>> "Chris Altmann" <avalid@emailaddress.zoo> wrote in message >>> news:OOTe7lQgGHA.4404@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>I don't have too much of a problem with the dimming effect they've added >>>>to UAC in theory, but in its current implementation it is just plain >>>>ugly. The whole screen flickers rudely before displaying in a dimmed >>>>state and flickers again when switching back to normal. It looks really >>>>bad, like there's something wrong with my monitor or like it's switching >>>>video modes. I was expecting some sort of smooth transition to the >>>>dimmed state and back. I filed a bug on it. >>>> >>>> Of course the UAC dialog in general is starting to become ineffective >>>> on me. I'm already not bothering to read it more often than not. I >>>> suspect many others will do the same, rendering it as useless as the >>>> "are you sure (Y/N)?" prompts of yore. >>>> >>>> PS: I was thinking, if MS really wants to make the UAC experience >>>> effective, they should add some demonic laughter when the screen dims >>>> and set the "Continue" button on fire. >>>> >>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:AD04E313-9951-4BF0-BFE1-E0B12FC24C80@microsoft.com... >>>>> Wow! There is a huge difference of opinion on this feature. >>>>> >>>>> From TechWeb article >>>>> http://www.techweb.com/showArticle.j...leID=159900001 >>>>> >>>>> Much-Improved User Account Control >>>>> >>>>> The most reviled feature of earlier Vista builds, User Account Control >>>>> (UAC), has thankfully been reined in with Beta 2. For the first time, >>>>> it is >>>>> actually useful, and goes some way toward solving a security problem >>>>> that >>>>> has long bedeviled Windows. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From PC Magazine http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1965703,00.asp >>>>> >>>>> One of the significant differences in Beta 2 is that the >>>>> implementation of >>>>> UAC (user account control) privilege elevation is much more >>>>> intrusive-objectionably so, in our experience so far. >>>>> >>>>> It looks like one of these organizations has a "private" agenda. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I personally do not find it all that intrusive. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Richard Urban >>>>> MVP Windows Shell/User >>>>> (using Vista 5384) >>>>> >>>>> Quote from George Ankner: >>>>> If you knew half as much as you think you know, >>>>> You would realize you don't know what you thought you knew. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
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