Vista - I broke my registry, I think...

05-27-2008

Using a Registry Cleaner is like playing Russian Roulette. When it goes off it goes off.

All it takes is 1 time after many successes

--
Peter

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"Cluelessnoob" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message news:0b3d8cf304d9cfbf269776ddda3a8550@xxxxxx-gateway.com...

Quote:

>
> Bah. Found some disks from my old computer I was sure I'd thrown away,
> with lots of my precious stuff on them... Formatting time!
>
> Anyway, I'd read all about this registry stuff and how they kill
> computers, but before that I'd run them many times and never had any
> problems. From Registry Mechanic to TuneUp utilities, lots of others on
> various computers, they all helped a lot! Only this RegCure thing
> completely obliterated my registry and made me into a clueless noob. :P
>
> As for the disk drives... I was running Daemon Tools and had my actual
> drive disabled to run it properly, but couldnt turn it back on when this
> happened because of my device manager being empty... Perfect storm, I
> think!
>
> RegCure... I will get youuuuuu!!!
>
>
> --
> Cluelessnoob

07-25-2008

Hi, after reading the responses below, I'm sad to hear many of the replies.
Yes, a final resolve would be to Re-Format and Re-install (takes a long time,
especially if ya don't have some sort of backup for your programs). However,
in contrary to what "Bruce" said about Vista not having a "Repair Tool", this
is not quite true. Check out this link to using Vista Start-Up Repair:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...f3f351033.mspx
I've been working with Windows since version 3.11 came out. I've used about
all of them (95,98,2K,XP,XP-Pro 32+64, Media-Ctr, and now Vista-32).
I run "Bit-Defender " security (bitdefender.com). It's has a Reg-Cleaner
that works great in eliminating Orphaned registry entries and Optimizing the
Registry File

Unlike Norton/Symantec, it will Unistall itself Clean so
you can install another A/V package if you like

Hope the repair tool can help you.

"Cluelessnoob" wrote:

Quote:

>
> I installed a new registry cleaner, RegCure I think, ran it, cleaned
> like 12k errors, more than I thought I should have, turned off my
> computer and went to bed. I come back and its acting like windows 2000!
> None of the services are working, I can't access the backups I made, and
> I can't use the system restore because the... host program wont respond,
> or something... I ran safe mode and got SOME of the drivers working
> again, as I thought I would, so it sort of seems my computer has
> amnesia... Does anyone know how I can get more services to work without
> reformatting my computer? I wouldnt mind that if i could even get the
> disk drives to work... Help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> --
> Cluelessnoob
>

07-25-2008

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:03:02 -0700, AVCStereo
<AVCStereo@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

> Hi, after reading the responses below, I'm sad to hear many of the replies.
> Yes, a final resolve would be to Re-Format and Re-install (takes a long time,
> especially if ya don't have some sort of backup for your programs).

If you do a reformat and reinstall of Windows, having a backup of your
programs is useless.

Except for a very occasional exception (usually a very small program)
all programs have many entries in the registry as well as associated
files and pointers to them within the Windows folder. All of this is
lost when Windows is reinstalled and the programs won't run.

If you reinstall Windows cleanly you have to reinstall all your
programs from the original media.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

08-04-2008

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

Quote:

> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:03:02 -0700, AVCStereo
> <AVCStereo@xxxxxx> wrote:
>

Quote:

> > Hi, after reading the responses below, I'm sad to hear many of the replies.
> > Yes, a final resolve would be to Re-Format and Re-install (takes a long time,
> > especially if ya don't have some sort of backup for your programs).

>
>
> If you do a reformat and reinstall of Windows, having a backup of your
> programs is useless.
>
> Except for a very occasional exception (usually a very small program)
> all programs have many entries in the registry as well as associated
> files and pointers to them within the Windows folder. All of this is
> lost when Windows is reinstalled and the programs won't run.
>
> If you reinstall Windows cleanly you have to reinstall all your
> programs from the original media.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> ------------------------------

Yes Ken, After a "Format" and/or "Complete Re-Install" of Windows, one would
have to have the original install CDs or software in order to ALSO
"Re-Install" the programs. However, Using the "Windows Repair Facility", it
may not be necessary in all cases. I have recovered my older software
installs on several occasions without having to re-install them. NOT in the
case of a complete Windows Re-Install or Format then Windows install however.

Depends whether or not The repair facility has enough information to
complete the registry entries for the pertinent software that is installed.
If not, then a Re-Install of the software or Program is necessary.
Ultimately, depends on the amount of damage to the operationing system
("Windows") and it's components. However, there MAY be a STRONG Possibility
that you can retrieve "Saved Games" or pertinent Saved Data files for various
software... BEFORE FORMATTING the Hard Drive! Once you copy the file(s) to
REMOVABLE MEDIA, Then, Format or Completely Re-Install Windows. Once the HD
has been formatted, Windows RE-Installed, The Software in question
Re-Installed... AND ALL UPDATES (Windows and Software are complete) Simply
copy the saved files into their appropriate locations for your software
areas. (Remember to create the necessary "Folder-Names" for the data files
to be placed in)... Helps to simplify returning them to the proper folders on
the hard drive after the everything else has been properly Re-Installed and
Updated

05-27-2008	#31 (permalink)
Peter Foldes n/a posts	Re: I broke my registry, I think... Using a Registry Cleaner is like playing Russian Roulette. When it goes off it goes off. All it takes is 1 time after many successes -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "Cluelessnoob" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message news:0b3d8cf304d9cfbf269776ddda3a8550@xxxxxx-gateway.com... Quote: > > Bah. Found some disks from my old computer I was sure I'd thrown away, > with lots of my precious stuff on them... Formatting time! > > Anyway, I'd read all about this registry stuff and how they kill > computers, but before that I'd run them many times and never had any > problems. From Registry Mechanic to TuneUp utilities, lots of others on > various computers, they all helped a lot! Only this RegCure thing > completely obliterated my registry and made me into a clueless noob. :P > > As for the disk drives... I was running Daemon Tools and had my actual > drive disabled to run it properly, but couldnt turn it back on when this > happened because of my device manager being empty... Perfect storm, I > think! > > RegCure... I will get youuuuuu!!! > > > -- > Cluelessnoob
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07-25-2008	#32 (permalink)
AVCStereo n/a posts	RE: I broke my registry, I think... Hi, after reading the responses below, I'm sad to hear many of the replies. Yes, a final resolve would be to Re-Format and Re-install (takes a long time, especially if ya don't have some sort of backup for your programs). However, in contrary to what "Bruce" said about Vista not having a "Repair Tool", this is not quite true. Check out this link to using Vista Start-Up Repair: http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...f3f351033.mspx I've been working with Windows since version 3.11 came out. I've used about all of them (95,98,2K,XP,XP-Pro 32+64, Media-Ctr, and now Vista-32). I run "Bit-Defender " security (bitdefender.com). It's has a Reg-Cleaner that works great in eliminating Orphaned registry entries and Optimizing the Registry File Unlike Norton/Symantec, it will Unistall itself Clean so you can install another A/V package if you like Hope the repair tool can help you. "Cluelessnoob" wrote: Quote: > > I installed a new registry cleaner, RegCure I think, ran it, cleaned > like 12k errors, more than I thought I should have, turned off my > computer and went to bed. I come back and its acting like windows 2000! > None of the services are working, I can't access the backups I made, and > I can't use the system restore because the... host program wont respond, > or something... I ran safe mode and got SOME of the drivers working > again, as I thought I would, so it sort of seems my computer has > amnesia... Does anyone know how I can get more services to work without > reformatting my computer? I wouldnt mind that if i could even get the > disk drives to work... Help would be greatly appreciated. > > > -- > Cluelessnoob >
My System Specs

07-25-2008	#33 (permalink)
Ken Blake, MVP n/a posts	Re: I broke my registry, I think... On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:03:02 -0700, AVCStereo <AVCStereo@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > Hi, after reading the responses below, I'm sad to hear many of the replies. > Yes, a final resolve would be to Re-Format and Re-install (takes a long time, > especially if ya don't have some sort of backup for your programs). If you do a reformat and reinstall of Windows, having a backup of your programs is useless. Except for a very occasional exception (usually a very small program) all programs have many entries in the registry as well as associated files and pointers to them within the Windows folder. All of this is lost when Windows is reinstalled and the programs won't run. If you reinstall Windows cleanly you have to reinstall all your programs from the original media. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience Please Reply to the Newsgroup
My System Specs

08-04-2008	#34 (permalink)
AVCStereo n/a posts	Re: I broke my registry, I think... "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: Quote: > On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:03:02 -0700, AVCStereo > <AVCStereo@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: > > Hi, after reading the responses below, I'm sad to hear many of the replies. > > Yes, a final resolve would be to Re-Format and Re-install (takes a long time, > > especially if ya don't have some sort of backup for your programs). > > > If you do a reformat and reinstall of Windows, having a backup of your > programs is useless. > > Except for a very occasional exception (usually a very small program) > all programs have many entries in the registry as well as associated > files and pointers to them within the Windows folder. All of this is > lost when Windows is reinstalled and the programs won't run. > > If you reinstall Windows cleanly you have to reinstall all your > programs from the original media. > > -- > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience > Please Reply to the Newsgroup > ------------------------------ Yes Ken, After a "Format" and/or "Complete Re-Install" of Windows, one would have to have the original install CDs or software in order to ALSO "Re-Install" the programs. However, Using the "Windows Repair Facility", it may not be necessary in all cases. I have recovered my older software installs on several occasions without having to re-install them. NOT in the case of a complete Windows Re-Install or Format then Windows install however. Depends whether or not The repair facility has enough information to complete the registry entries for the pertinent software that is installed. If not, then a Re-Install of the software or Program is necessary. Ultimately, depends on the amount of damage to the operationing system ("Windows") and it's components. However, there MAY be a STRONG Possibility that you can retrieve "Saved Games" or pertinent Saved Data files for various software... BEFORE FORMATTING the Hard Drive! Once you copy the file(s) to REMOVABLE MEDIA, Then, Format or Completely Re-Install Windows. Once the HD has been formatted, Windows RE-Installed, The Software in question Re-Installed... AND ALL UPDATES (Windows and Software are complete) Simply copy the saved files into their appropriate locations for your software areas. (Remember to create the necessary "Folder-Names" for the data files to be placed in)... Helps to simplify returning them to the proper folders on the hard drive after the everything else has been properly Re-Installed and Updated
My System Specs

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