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Old 05-28-2008   #1 (permalink)
Thomas Couey


 
 

User Account Control

I have recently started to transition to Vista (dual booting with XP
Pro). One problem that I'm having is that my ergo mouse (Evoluent
Vertical Mouse) uses a driver that runs as an application, not a
service (I think). It has a tray icon, but that can be hidden via the
options. The problem is that every time its software runs at startup
(the application launches via the Startup start menu group) the UAC
kicks off and ask for consent for it to run. Obviously this is very
annoying. Normally you only see this when you install something or if
you try to access a high level admin type tool, as I understand it.
Is there some one to permanently consent to this application running
at startup? If the application isn't running the mouse doesn't
function properly. I tried using the compatibility option to have it
run with administrator privileges, but that didn't make any
difference.

I'm very computer literate, but Vista is a strange beast.

Thanks.

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Old 05-28-2008   #2 (permalink)
Mark


 
 

Re: User Account Control

Try this. It will achieve the result you are looking for.
1.. Remove the program from the Startup folder or the Run registry key
2.. Launch the Task Scheduler
e.g. Start Menu > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools
3.. From the Actions panel on the right, select Create Task.
4.. Go to the Security Options on the General tab
1.. Select an user account with administrative privileges
2.. Select the radio button Run only when user is logged on
3.. Check the box Run with highest privileges
5.. Go to the Triggers tab and click New.
1.. In Begin the task, select At log on
2.. In the Settings options, select All users
3.. In the Advanced Settings options, check the box Enabled
4.. Click OK to close the dialog
6.. Go to the Actions tab and click New.
1.. For Action, select Start a program
2.. In the Settings options, browse for the Program/Script you want to
execute on startup
3.. Click OK to close the dialog
7.. Go to the Settings tab
1.. Check the box Run task as soon as possible after a scheduled start
is missed
2.. Uncheck the box Stop the task if it runs longer than
8.. Make any other desired settings
9.. Click OK to save and close the task properties
Mark

"Thomas Couey" <tcouey@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

>I have recently started to transition to Vista (dual booting with XP
> Pro). One problem that I'm having is that my ergo mouse (Evoluent
> Vertical Mouse) uses a driver that runs as an application, not a
> service (I think). It has a tray icon, but that can be hidden via the
> options. The problem is that every time its software runs at startup
> (the application launches via the Startup start menu group) the UAC
> kicks off and ask for consent for it to run. Obviously this is very
> annoying. Normally you only see this when you install something or if
> you try to access a high level admin type tool, as I understand it.
> Is there some one to permanently consent to this application running
> at startup? If the application isn't running the mouse doesn't
> function properly. I tried using the compatibility option to have it
> run with administrator privileges, but that didn't make any
> difference.
>
> I'm very computer literate, but Vista is a strange beast.
>
> Thanks.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-28-2008   #3 (permalink)
Thomas Couey


 
 

Re: User Account Control


Not that I don't appreciate your help, but HOLY COW! Vista is
supposed to be easier to use??? Whoa. Seems like there should be an
easier way, but I'll definitely try your suggestion. They really
should just put a "Remember this decision" check box on the dialog or
something. I realize that this is potentially exploitable, but at
some point our systems are going to become too secure to be usable
anymore. We have that problem at work, but it's with the Solaris
systems. Security makes us remove just about everything they can
until the system breaks and then backs off one step. lol.

Thanks for you help though, I was lost.

Tom
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Old 05-28-2008   #4 (permalink)
Mark


 
 

Re: User Account Control

It's not as bad as it looks but like you said, there should be an easier
way. Seeing as this is one of biggest reasons for complaints about Vista,
maybe Microsoft will fix this with the next version of Windows.

By the way I have used this method myself and it does work.

Mark

"Thomas Couey" <tcouey@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:e4df25b4-d6d9-4395-a6e8-2c9b0badaced@xxxxxx
Quote:

>
> Not that I don't appreciate your help, but HOLY COW! Vista is
> supposed to be easier to use??? Whoa. Seems like there should be an
> easier way, but I'll definitely try your suggestion. They really
> should just put a "Remember this decision" check box on the dialog or
> something. I realize that this is potentially exploitable, but at
> some point our systems are going to become too secure to be usable
> anymore. We have that problem at work, but it's with the Solaris
> systems. Security makes us remove just about everything they can
> until the system breaks and then backs off one step. lol.
>
> Thanks for you help though, I was lost.
>
> Tom

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Old 05-28-2008   #5 (permalink)
Nonny


 
 

Re: User Account Control

On Wed, 28 May 2008 16:04:34 -0700 (PDT), Thomas Couey
<tcouey@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>Not that I don't appreciate your help, but HOLY COW! Vista is
>supposed to be easier to use??? Whoa. Seems like there should be an
>easier way, but I'll definitely try your suggestion. They really
>should just put a "Remember this decision" check box on the dialog or
>something. I realize that this is potentially exploitable, but at
>some point our systems are going to become too secure to be usable
>anymore.
Which caused me to turn off UAC completely as one of my FIRST actions
after installing Vista. I've gotten through many years online without
needing it, and I suspect I will get through many more the same way.
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Old 06-18-2008   #6 (permalink)


Vista Enterprise 32bit SP1
 
 

Re: User Account Control

I had this same issue with the same program. Thanks to those who provided a solution. The real solution here, of course, is for Evoluent to follow Microsoft's development guidlines and make their software "Vista Ready" (or whatever term Microsoft uses). Their software isn't even digitally signed, and the installer even had some issue in this regard on XP, not just Vista, although at least it would run fine on XP.

What I don't completely understand, is that I wrote a program myself, in .NET, which I run at startup (using the Startup folder) and it runs fine without asking me for permission. It's not digitally signed, nor did I do anything special to make it work with Vista. It was last compiled in 2006 and I haven't touched it since. Perhaps the difference is that my program doesn't access any kind of sensitive system resources. (It's just a small program I wrote to keep track of how I spend my time. I enter in the tasks I'm doing and how long I worked on them, and then it writes this to a text file on disk.)
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