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Old 05-29-2008   #1 (permalink)
MikeAP


 
 

Restore points deleted (yet again - sorry)

Hello - All my restore points are getting deleted on every re-boot,
accompanied by volsnap event ID 25 "The shadow copies... were deleted because
the shadow copy storage could not grow in time." I have seen a few mentions
of this problem elsewhere, but no fix. I have tried turning system restore on
and off, with no effect. Restore points are created with no problems, but
invariably deleted at the next boot.

System is a rather odd dual-boot of Vista HP with XP: an Acer Aspire, which
runs XP on a hidden partition exclusively to run Acer's own Arcade media
application in an "instant-on" mode: on exiting this application, XP
hibernates, then resumes when a special hotkey is pressed (as far as I can
see it never reboots XP). But the Vista restore point deletions happen
whether or not XP is actually run. So I can't apply any of the usual fixes.

Can anyone suggest a fix and/or explain why this might, after all, be a
symptom of the dual-boot problem even though XP is not actually running?

Thanks and regards - Mike.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-29-2008   #2 (permalink)
solon fox


 
 

Re: Restore points deleted (yet again - sorry)

Hi Mike,
I have no solution to your dual boot problem, other than to consider
an alternative such as MS Virtual PC or other VM product. I run Vista
as the host with an XP virtual machine using Virtual PC and am quite
happy with the solution. Depending on your reasons for dual boot, you
might be happy with the VM solution.

It sounds like the obvious answer to your shadow copy storage problem
is space, but you seem like someone that knows what they are doing and
I figure you have already considered whether or not you have enough
free space for the shadow copy feature of drive protection.

-solon fox


On May 29, 8:05*am, MikeAP <m.pla...@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

> Hello - All my restore points are getting deleted on every re-boot,
> accompanied by volsnap event ID 25 "The shadow copies... were deleted because
> the shadow copy storage could not grow in time." I have seen a few mentions
> of this problem elsewhere, but no fix. I have tried turning system restoreon
> and off, with no effect. Restore points are created with no problems, but
> invariably deleted at the next boot.
>
> System is a rather odd dual-boot of Vista HP with XP: an Acer Aspire, which
> runs XP on a hidden partition exclusively to run Acer's own Arcade media
> application in an "instant-on" mode: on exiting this application, XP
> hibernates, then resumes when a special hotkey is pressed (as far as I can
> see it never reboots XP). But the Vista restore point deletions happen
> whether or not XP is actually run. So I can't apply any of the usual fixes..
>
> Can anyone suggest a fix and/or explain why this might, after all, be a
> symptom of the dual-boot problem even though XP is not actually running?
>
> Thanks and regards - Mike.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-29-2008   #3 (permalink)


Vista 64-bit Ultimate Win7 64-bit Ultimate XP SP3 32-bit Pro
 
 

Re: Restore points deleted (yet again - sorry)

Hello Mike!

You may find an answer in this tutorial.

System Restore Points - Stop XP Dual Boot Delete


Later Ted
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-29-2008   #4 (permalink)
PaulM


 
 

Re: Restore points deleted (yet again - sorry)

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"MikeAP" <m.player@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:15EF5F73-FC3B-41B3-ACFF-945E77ABF16A@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hello - All my restore points are getting deleted on every re-boot,
> accompanied by volsnap event ID 25 "The shadow copies... were deleted
> because
> the shadow copy storage could not grow in time." I have seen a few
> mentions
> of this problem elsewhere, but no fix. I have tried turning system restore
> on
> and off, with no effect. Restore points are created with no problems, but
> invariably deleted at the next boot.
>
> System is a rather odd dual-boot of Vista HP with XP: an Acer Aspire,
> which
> runs XP on a hidden partition exclusively to run Acer's own Arcade media
> application in an "instant-on" mode: on exiting this application, XP
> hibernates, then resumes when a special hotkey is pressed (as far as I can
> see it never reboots XP). But the Vista restore point deletions happen
> whether or not XP is actually run. So I can't apply any of the usual
> fixes.
>
> Can anyone suggest a fix and/or explain why this might, after all, be a
> symptom of the dual-boot problem even though XP is not actually running?
>
> Thanks and regards - Mike.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-29-2008   #5 (permalink)
Mick Murphy


 
 

RE: Restore points deleted (yet again - sorry)

XP is the one deleting your Restore Points. It does it with dual boot upon
next restart.
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"MikeAP" wrote:
Quote:

> Hello - All my restore points are getting deleted on every re-boot,
> accompanied by volsnap event ID 25 "The shadow copies... were deleted because
> the shadow copy storage could not grow in time." I have seen a few mentions
> of this problem elsewhere, but no fix. I have tried turning system restore on
> and off, with no effect. Restore points are created with no problems, but
> invariably deleted at the next boot.
>
> System is a rather odd dual-boot of Vista HP with XP: an Acer Aspire, which
> runs XP on a hidden partition exclusively to run Acer's own Arcade media
> application in an "instant-on" mode: on exiting this application, XP
> hibernates, then resumes when a special hotkey is pressed (as far as I can
> see it never reboots XP). But the Vista restore point deletions happen
> whether or not XP is actually run. So I can't apply any of the usual fixes.
>
> Can anyone suggest a fix and/or explain why this might, after all, be a
> symptom of the dual-boot problem even though XP is not actually running?
>
> Thanks and regards - Mike.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-17-2008   #6 (permalink)
MikeAP


 
 

RE: Restore points deleted (yet again - sorry)

Hello - Thanks to all who replied to this. It turns out that the problem has
to do with the hibernation file.

I believe the shadow copy system may be getting "confused" by the
hibernation (not booting) of XP in the Acer "instant on" partition though I
am not sure how, so that on every Vista re-boot a changed hiberfil.sys is
detected and the system attempts to shadow it in its entirety. This
effectively overloads the shadowing system leading to the event id 25 (which
is not a symptom of the well-known dual-boot issue).

In any case, turning off hibernation in Vista then back on again allows the
shadow copies to survive re-boot and the system returns to correct operation

Regards - Mike

"MikeAP" wrote:
Quote:

> Hello - All my restore points are getting deleted on every re-boot,
> accompanied by volsnap event ID 25 "The shadow copies... were deleted because
> the shadow copy storage could not grow in time." I have seen a few mentions
> of this problem elsewhere, but no fix. I have tried turning system restore on
> and off, with no effect. Restore points are created with no problems, but
> invariably deleted at the next boot.
>
> System is a rather odd dual-boot of Vista HP with XP: an Acer Aspire, which
> runs XP on a hidden partition exclusively to run Acer's own Arcade media
> application in an "instant-on" mode: on exiting this application, XP
> hibernates, then resumes when a special hotkey is pressed (as far as I can
> see it never reboots XP). But the Vista restore point deletions happen
> whether or not XP is actually run. So I can't apply any of the usual fixes.
>
> Can anyone suggest a fix and/or explain why this might, after all, be a
> symptom of the dual-boot problem even though XP is not actually running?
>
> Thanks and regards - Mike.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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