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| | Discrepancy Between Vista and Outlook 2007 Search Results Hello Group! When searching for email using the search box at the bottom of the Vista Start menu (or the separate Search Window), the results are always incomplete. This does not occur when I use Outlook's Instant Search. Even when using parameters like: kind:mail Search Term Email that I know exists does not show up in the Vista menu, but shows up instantly when I use Outlook's Instant Search box. The indexing control panel reports that indexing is complete, the number of indexed items looks just about right, and I've always got Outlook running minimized to tray. Has anybody else noticed this behavior? My setup is: Vista SP1 with a clean install of Office 2007 Troubleshooting I've tried so far: I've made sure that "Search Communications" is checked in the Start Menu customization options Outlook Search options are set to index both of my pst files and all items in the Deleted items folder Repairing Office 2007 Running Office Diagnostics Running the Scanpst.exe utility Rebuilding the index Restoring indexing defaults, restarting and leaving the computer idle to rebuild the index Restarting the indexing service The email certainly seems to be indexed, I'm just wondering why it doesn't all show up in the Start Menu search results or the Vista Search window like it does in Outlook Instant Search. Any ideas would be great appreciated. Ahmed |
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| | Re: Discrepancy Between Vista and Outlook 2007 Search Results Outlook uses an SQL 'query' to search the profile *.PST file (a structured database). The Windows index searches for 'text' within a file, another thing all together. I would imagine the same would be true for an Excel *.XLS or whatever, for the same reason. -- click the Ratings button. Voting helps the web interface. http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/locales...help_en-us.htm see ''rate a post'' Mark L. Ferguson "Ahmed Mesbah" <newsgroups@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:52DA442E-2E1E-4B2C-9991-58F865255434@xxxxxx Quote: > Hello Group! > > When searching for email using the search box at the bottom of the Vista > Start menu (or the separate Search Window), the results are always > incomplete. This does not occur when I use Outlook's Instant Search. Even > when using parameters like: > > kind:mail Search Term > > Email that I know exists does not show up in the Vista menu, but shows up > instantly when I use Outlook's Instant Search box. The indexing control > panel reports that indexing is complete, the number of indexed items > looks > just about right, and I've always got Outlook running minimized to tray. > Has > anybody else noticed this behavior? > > My setup is: Vista SP1 with a clean install of Office 2007 > > Troubleshooting I've tried so far: > > I've made sure that "Search Communications" is checked in the Start Menu > customization options > Outlook Search options are set to index both of my pst files and all items > in the Deleted items folder > Repairing Office 2007 > Running Office Diagnostics > Running the Scanpst.exe utility > Rebuilding the index > Restoring indexing defaults, restarting and leaving the computer idle to > rebuild the index > Restarting the indexing service > > The email certainly seems to be indexed, I'm just wondering why it doesn't > all show up in the Start Menu search results or the Vista Search window > like > it does in Outlook Instant Search. Any ideas would be great appreciated. > > Ahmed > > > > |
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| | Re: Discrepancy Between Vista and Outlook 2007 Search Results Thanks for your reply, Mark. However, does that mean that on any Vista machine, a search for email will always be incomplete or return no results and that this behavior is by design? It sounds strange that Vista search would be incapable of doing what even Windows Desktop Search on XP did. What's the point of searching, if you're always second guessing the results? Ahmed "Mark L. Ferguson" <MarkLFerguson@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:C2DA2E4E-220E-411D-B65A-B1F932F6F22C@xxxxxx Outlook uses an SQL 'query' to search the profile *.PST file (a structured database). The Windows index searches for 'text' within a file, another thing all together. I would imagine the same would be true for an Excel *.XLS or whatever, for the same reason. -- click the Ratings button. Voting helps the web interface. http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/locales...help_en-us.htm see ''rate a post'' Mark L. Ferguson "Ahmed Mesbah" <newsgroups@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:52DA442E-2E1E-4B2C-9991-58F865255434@xxxxxx Quote: > Hello Group! > > When searching for email using the search box at the bottom of the Vista > Start menu (or the separate Search Window), the results are always > incomplete. This does not occur when I use Outlook's Instant Search. Even > when using parameters like: > > kind:mail Search Term > > Email that I know exists does not show up in the Vista menu, but shows up > instantly when I use Outlook's Instant Search box. The indexing control > panel reports that indexing is complete, the number of indexed items > looks > just about right, and I've always got Outlook running minimized to tray. > Has > anybody else noticed this behavior? > > My setup is: Vista SP1 with a clean install of Office 2007 > > Troubleshooting I've tried so far: > > I've made sure that "Search Communications" is checked in the Start Menu > customization options > Outlook Search options are set to index both of my pst files and all items > in the Deleted items folder > Repairing Office 2007 > Running Office Diagnostics > Running the Scanpst.exe utility > Rebuilding the index > Restoring indexing defaults, restarting and leaving the computer idle to > rebuild the index > Restarting the indexing service > > The email certainly seems to be indexed, I'm just wondering why it doesn't > all show up in the Start Menu search results or the Vista Search window > like > it does in Outlook Instant Search. Any ideas would be great appreciated. > > Ahmed > > > > |
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| | Re: Discrepancy Between Vista and Outlook 2007 Search Results The search feature in Windows Vista has been intentionally left with areas that other search engines can use. Overview of Windows Vista desktop search Changes in Windows Vista Service Pack 1: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/941946 You cannot find files when you search a Windows Vista-based computer even though the files exist on the computer: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932989/en-us -- click the Ratings button. Voting helps the web interface. http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/locales...help_en-us.htm see ''rate a post'' Mark L. Ferguson "Ahmed Mesbah" <newsgroups@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:1EE3709E-EDFA-4A3B-8FAE-2B715FF83D1F@xxxxxx Quote: > Thanks for your reply, Mark. However, does that mean that on any Vista > machine, a search for email will always be incomplete or return no results > and that this behavior is by design? It sounds strange that Vista search > would be incapable of doing what even Windows Desktop Search on XP did. > What's the point of searching, if you're always second guessing the > results? > > Ahmed > > "Mark L. Ferguson" <MarkLFerguson@xxxxxx> wrote in > message news:C2DA2E4E-220E-411D-B65A-B1F932F6F22C@xxxxxx > Outlook uses an SQL 'query' to search the profile *.PST file (a structured > database). The Windows index searches for 'text' within a file, another > thing all together. > I would imagine the same would be true for an Excel *.XLS or whatever, for > the same reason. > -- > click the Ratings button. Voting helps the web interface. > http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/locales...help_en-us.htm see ''rate a > post'' > Mark L. Ferguson > > "Ahmed Mesbah" <newsgroups@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:52DA442E-2E1E-4B2C-9991-58F865255434@xxxxxx Quote: >> Hello Group! >> >> When searching for email using the search box at the bottom of the Vista >> Start menu (or the separate Search Window), the results are always >> incomplete. This does not occur when I use Outlook's Instant Search. Even >> when using parameters like: >> >> kind:mail Search Term >> >> Email that I know exists does not show up in the Vista menu, but shows up >> instantly when I use Outlook's Instant Search box. The indexing control >> panel reports that indexing is complete, the number of indexed items >> looks >> just about right, and I've always got Outlook running minimized to tray. >> Has >> anybody else noticed this behavior? >> >> My setup is: Vista SP1 with a clean install of Office 2007 >> >> Troubleshooting I've tried so far: >> >> I've made sure that "Search Communications" is checked in the Start Menu >> customization options >> Outlook Search options are set to index both of my pst files and all >> items >> in the Deleted items folder >> Repairing Office 2007 >> Running Office Diagnostics >> Running the Scanpst.exe utility >> Rebuilding the index >> Restoring indexing defaults, restarting and leaving the computer idle to >> rebuild the index >> Restarting the indexing service >> >> The email certainly seems to be indexed, I'm just wondering why it >> doesn't >> all show up in the Start Menu search results or the Vista Search window >> like >> it does in Outlook Instant Search. Any ideas would be great appreciated. >> >> Ahmed >> >> >> >> |
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