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Old 06-02-2008   #1 (permalink)
Davet102


 
 

Program Permissions

I have 2 situations here but I think they are related.

1. I have a couple programs that every time I go to start them I get "A
program needs your permission to continue"
I have to click "continue" so they will run.

2. i have several programs that on their desktop icons have the "Firewall
Shield" on them. (shield divide into 4 colors)

How do I get the shields to go away?

How do I get the "need permission" message to stop coming up?

Bob


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-02-2008   #2 (permalink)
Mark L. Ferguson


 
 

Re: Program Permissions

systemsabuse.com - Don’t disable Vista UAC system-wide; disable Vista UAC
per application:
http://www.systemsabuse.com/2008/01/...r-application/

--
click the Ratings button. Voting helps the web interface.
http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/locales...help_en-us.htm see ''rate a post''
Mark L. Ferguson

"Davet102" <Davet102@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:7780A36B-1F9B-4306-9658-2C133F78AC64@xxxxxx
Quote:

> I have 2 situations here but I think they are related.
>
> 1. I have a couple programs that every time I go to start them I get "A
> program needs your permission to continue"
> I have to click "continue" so they will run.
>
> 2. i have several programs that on their desktop icons have the "Firewall
> Shield" on them. (shield divide into 4 colors)
>
> How do I get the shields to go away?
>
> How do I get the "need permission" message to stop coming up?
>
> Bob
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-02-2008   #3 (permalink)
Davet102


 
 

Re: Program Permissions

Can you please explain what this is and what it does??

I have gone to the site but do not understand.

Bob


"Mark L. Ferguson" wrote:
Quote:

> systemsabuse.com - Don’t disable Vista UAC system-wide; disable Vista UAC
> per application:
> http://www.systemsabuse.com/2008/01/...r-application/
>
> --
> click the Ratings button. Voting helps the web interface.
> http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/locales...help_en-us.htm see ''rate a post''
> Mark L. Ferguson
>
> "Davet102" <Davet102@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:7780A36B-1F9B-4306-9658-2C133F78AC64@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > I have 2 situations here but I think they are related.
> >
> > 1. I have a couple programs that every time I go to start them I get "A
> > program needs your permission to continue"
> > I have to click "continue" so they will run.
> >
> > 2. i have several programs that on their desktop icons have the "Firewall
> > Shield" on them. (shield divide into 4 colors)
> >
> > How do I get the shields to go away?
> >
> > How do I get the "need permission" message to stop coming up?
> >
> > Bob
> >
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-02-2008   #4 (permalink)


Home premium 32 bit, SP1
 
 

Re: Program Permissions

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Davet102 View Post
I have 2 situations here but I think they are related.

1. I have a couple programs that every time I go to start them I get "A
program needs your permission to continue"
I have to click "continue" so they will run.

2. i have several programs that on their desktop icons have the "Firewall
Shield" on them. (shield divide into 4 colors)

How do I get the shields to go away?

How do I get the "need permission" message to stop coming up?

Bob
Hello Bob,
What you had described was UAC (User Accounts Control ) in action. Please read :

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

What is User Account Control?

In this article

User Account Control (UAC) is a feature in Windows that can help prevent unauthorized changes to your computer. UAC does this by asking you for permission or an administrator* password before performing actions that could potentially affect your computer's operation or that change settings that affect other users. When you see a UAC message, read it carefully, and then make sure the name of the action or program that's about to start is one that you intended to start.
By verifying these actions before they start, UAC can help prevent malicious software (malware) and spyware from installing or making changes to your computer without permission.
When your permission or password is needed to complete a task, UAC will alert you with one of the following messages:
Windows needs your permission to continue


A Windows function or program that can affect other users of this computer needs your permission to start. Check the name of the action to ensure that it's a function or program you want to run.

A program needs your permission to continue


A program that's not part of Windows needs your permission to start. It has a valid digital signature indicating its name and its publisher, which helps to ensure that the program is what it claims to be. Make sure that this is a program that you intended to run.

An unidentified program wants access to your computer


An unidentified program is one that doesn't have a valid digital signature from its publisher to ensure that the program is what it claims to be. This doesn't necessarily indicate danger, as many older, legitimate programs lack signatures. However, you should use extra caution and only allow this program to run if you obtained it from a trusted source, such as the original CD or a publisher's website.

This program has been blocked


This is a program that your administrator has specifically blocked from running on your computer. To run this program, you must contact your administrator and ask to have the program unblocked.

We recommend that you log on to your computer with a standard user account most of the time. You can surf the Internet, send e‑mail, and use a word processor, all without an administrator account. When you want to perform an administrative task, such as installing a new program or changing a setting that will affect other users, you don't have to switch to an administrator account. Windows will prompt you for permission or an administrator password before performing the task.
To help protect your computer, you can create standard user accounts for all the users who share the computer. When someone who has a standard account tries to install software, Windows will ask for an administrator account's password so that software can't be installed without your knowledge and permission.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Unless you are an experienced long time computer user, it is not recommended to turn UAC off although it might be annoying at times. A small price to pay for security of your computer. Having said that, if you insist to turn it off, here is how :-
Click Start button > right panel, click Control Panel > left panel, click Classic view > scroll to find User Accounts icon, right click > click Turn user accounts control on or off > UN-check the box > click OK. You're done.( Remember, you are doing it at the computer's risk. )
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-02-2008   #5 (permalink)
Nonny


 
 

Re: Program Permissions

On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 19:40:24 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@xxxxxx-email.com>
wrote:
Quote:

>
>Davet102;734670 Wrote:
Quote:

>> I have 2 situations here but I think they are related.
>>
>> 1. I have a couple programs that every time I go to start them I get "A
>> program needs your permission to continue"
>> I have to click "continue" so they will run.
>>
>> 2. i have several programs that on their desktop icons have the
>> "Firewall
>> Shield" on them. (shield divide into 4 colors)
>>
>> How do I get the shields to go away?
>>
>> How do I get the "need permission" message to stop coming up?
>>
>> Bob
>Hello Bob,
>What you had described was UAC (User Accounts Control ) in action.
>Please read :
It's kinda hard to read. This is what your post looks like in a real
newsreader:
Quote:

>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>WHAT IS USER ACCOUNT CONTROL?
>In this article
>
>
>- '_Windows_needs_your_permission_to_continue_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_26)
>- '_A_program_needs_your_permission_to_continue_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_36)
>- '_An_unidentified_program_wants_access_to_your_computer_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_48)
>- '_This_program_has_been_blocked_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_55)
>
>
>User Account Control (UAC) is a feature in Windows that can help
>prevent unauthorized changes to your computer. UAC does this by asking
>you for permission or an '_administrator_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=c6ed67cb-3054-4fd6-aba5-cecd436d290d#gtmt_administrator_def)*
>'_password_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=45cf5840-fef0-4b98-9bba-f06e528bdb03#gtmt_password_def)
>before performing actions that could potentially affect your computer's
>operation or that change settings that affect other users. When you see
>a UAC message, read it carefully, and then make sure the name of the
>action or program that's about to start is one that you intended to
>start.
>By verifying these actions before they start, UAC can help prevent
>'_malicious_software_(malware)_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=85b8c3e6-28c4-464d-b883-7764d16f54a2#gtmt_malicious_software_def)
>and '_spyware_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=dcefd749-1ba5-4b2b-a476-be233702e7f4#gtmt_spyware_def)
>from installing or making changes to your computer without permission.
>When your permission or password is needed to complete a task, UAC will
>alert you with one of the following messages:
>WINDOWS NEEDS YOUR PERMISSION TO CONTINUE
>[image:
>http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Bet...erKey=SIGNED1]
>A Windows function or program that can affect other users of this
>computer needs your permission to start. Check the name of the action to
>ensure that it's a function or program you want to run.
>
>A PROGRAM NEEDS YOUR PERMISSION TO CONTINUE
>[image:
>http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Bet...erKey=SIGNED1]
>A program that's not part of Windows needs your permission to start. It
>has a valid '_digital_signature_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=2082ca40-c3aa-44a0-9680-bbd8917430a9#gtmt_digital_signature1_def)
>indicating its name and its publisher, which helps to ensure that the
>program is what it claims to be. Make sure that this is a program that
>you intended to run.
>
>AN UNIDENTIFIED PROGRAM WANTS ACCESS TO YOUR COMPUTER
>[image:
>http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Bet...erKey=SIGNED1]
>An unidentified program is one that doesn't have a valid digital
>signature from its publisher to ensure that the program is what it
>claims to be. This doesn't necessarily indicate danger, as many older,
>legitimate programs lack signatures. However, you should use extra
>caution and only allow this program to run if you obtained it from a
>trusted source, such as the original CD or a publisher's website.
>
>THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN BLOCKED
>[image:
>http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Bet...erKey=SIGNED1]
>This is a program that your '_administrator_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=c6ed67cb-3054-4fd6-aba5-cecd436d290d#gtmt_administrator_def)
>has specifically blocked from running on your computer. To run this
>program, you must contact your administrator and ask to have the program
>unblocked.
>
>We recommend that you log on to your computer with a
>'_standard_user_account_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=e28d50d9-3f22-49fb-a18e-041c84508643#gtmt_standard_account_def)
>most of the time. You can surf the Internet, send e‑mail, and use
>a word processor, all without an '_administrator_account_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=5da478b2-d29c-495d-8e64-94b922a43b32#gtmt_administrator_account_def).
>When you want to perform an administrative task, such as installing a
>new program or changing a setting that will affect other users, you
>don't have to switch to an administrator account. Windows will prompt
>you for permission or an administrator password before performing the
>task.
>To help protect your computer, you can create standard user accounts
>for all the users who share the computer. When someone who has a
>standard account tries to install software, Windows will ask for an
>administrator account's password so that software can't be installed
>without your knowledge and permission.
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Unless you are an experienced long time computer user, it is not
>recommended to turn UAC off although it might be annoying at times. A
>small price to pay for security of your computer. Having said that, if
>you insist to turn it off, here is how :-
>Click Start button > right panel, click Control Panel > left panel,
>click Classic view > scroll to find User Accounts icon, right click >
>click Turn user accounts control on or off > UN-check the box > click
>OK. You're done.( Remember, you are doing it at the computer's risk. )
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-02-2008   #6 (permalink)


Home premium 32 bit, SP1
 
 

Re: Program Permissions

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Nonny View Post
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 19:40:24 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@xxxxxx-email.com>
wrote:
Quote:
>
>Davet102;734670 Wrote:
Quote:
>> I have 2 situations here but I think they are related.
>>
>> 1. I have a couple programs that every time I go to start them I get "A
>> program needs your permission to continue"
>> I have to click "continue" so they will run.
>>
>> 2. i have several programs that on their desktop icons have the
>> "Firewall
>> Shield" on them. (shield divide into 4 colors)
>>
>> How do I get the shields to go away?
>>
>> How do I get the "need permission" message to stop coming up?
>>
>> Bob

>Hello Bob,
>What you had described was UAC (User Accounts Control ) in action.
>Please read :
It's kinda hard to read. This is what your post looks like in a real
newsreader:
Quote:
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>WHAT IS USER ACCOUNT CONTROL?
>In this article
>
>
>- '_Windows_needs_your_permission_to_continue_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_26)
>- '_A_program_needs_your_permission_to_continue_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_36)
>- '_An_unidentified_program_wants_access_to_your_computer_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_48)
>- '_This_program_has_been_blocked_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_55)
>
>
>User Account Control (UAC) is a feature in Windows that can help
>prevent unauthorized changes to your computer. UAC does this by asking
>you for permission or an '_administrator_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=c6ed67cb-3054-4fd6-aba5-cecd436d290d#gtmt_administrator_def)*
>'_password_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=45cf5840-fef0-4b98-9bba-f06e528bdb03#gtmt_password_def)
>before performing actions that could potentially affect your computer's
>operation or that change settings that affect other users. When you see
>a UAC message, read it carefully, and then make sure the name of the
>action or program that's about to start is one that you intended to
>start.
>By verifying these actions before they start, UAC can help prevent
>'_malicious_software_(malware)_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=85b8c3e6-28c4-464d-b883-7764d16f54a2#gtmt_malicious_software_def)
>and '_spyware_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=dcefd749-1ba5-4b2b-a476-be233702e7f4#gtmt_spyware_def)
>from installing or making changes to your computer without permission.
>When your permission or password is needed to complete a task, UAC will
>alert you with one of the following messages:
>WINDOWS NEEDS YOUR PERMISSION TO CONTINUE
>[image:
>http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Bet...erKey=SIGNED1]
>A Windows function or program that can affect other users of this
>computer needs your permission to start. Check the name of the action to
>ensure that it's a function or program you want to run.
>
>A PROGRAM NEEDS YOUR PERMISSION TO CONTINUE
>[image:
>http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Bet...erKey=SIGNED1]
>A program that's not part of Windows needs your permission to start. It
>has a valid '_digital_signature_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=2082ca40-c3aa-44a0-9680-bbd8917430a9#gtmt_digital_signature1_def)
>indicating its name and its publisher, which helps to ensure that the
>program is what it claims to be. Make sure that this is a program that
>you intended to run.
>
>AN UNIDENTIFIED PROGRAM WANTS ACCESS TO YOUR COMPUTER
>[image:
>http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Bet...erKey=SIGNED1]
>An unidentified program is one that doesn't have a valid digital
>signature from its publisher to ensure that the program is what it
>claims to be. This doesn't necessarily indicate danger, as many older,
>legitimate programs lack signatures. However, you should use extra
>caution and only allow this program to run if you obtained it from a
>trusted source, such as the original CD or a publisher's website.
>
>THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN BLOCKED
>[image:
>http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Bet...erKey=SIGNED1]
>This is a program that your '_administrator_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=c6ed67cb-3054-4fd6-aba5-cecd436d290d#gtmt_administrator_def)
>has specifically blocked from running on your computer. To run this
>program, you must contact your administrator and ask to have the program
>unblocked.
>
>We recommend that you log on to your computer with a
>'_standard_user_account_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=e28d50d9-3f22-49fb-a18e-041c84508643#gtmt_standard_account_def)
>most of the time. You can surf the Internet, send e‑mail, and use
>a word processor, all without an '_administrator_account_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=5da478b2-d29c-495d-8e64-94b922a43b32#gtmt_administrator_account_def).
>When you want to perform an administrative task, such as installing a
>new program or changing a setting that will affect other users, you
>don't have to switch to an administrator account. Windows will prompt
>you for permission or an administrator password before performing the
>task.
>To help protect your computer, you can create standard user accounts
>for all the users who share the computer. When someone who has a
>standard account tries to install software, Windows will ask for an
>administrator account's password so that software can't be installed
>without your knowledge and permission.
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Unless you are an experienced long time computer user, it is not
>recommended to turn UAC off although it might be annoying at times. A
>small price to pay for security of your computer. Having said that, if
>you insist to turn it off, here is how :-
>Click Start button > right panel, click Control Panel > left panel,
>click Classic view > scroll to find User Accounts icon, right click >
>click Turn user accounts control on or off > UN-check the box > click
>OK. You're done.( Remember, you are doing it at the computer's risk. )
Thank you for pointing this out. I'll try the link approach.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-02-2008   #7 (permalink)
Rick Rogers


 
 

Re: Program Permissions

Hi,

Your programs are writing to protected system folders rather than using the
virtual ones in the your user account's appdata folder. This is what causes
the UAC prompts, as a user account under normal run time no longer has the
level of privilege necessary to write to protected folders without being
elevated. The process described there using the toolkit is simply a method
for bypassing the prompt on a per application basis.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Davet102" <Davet102@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:29C486BA-5BAD-44DA-A15E-A33D70C21938@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Can you please explain what this is and what it does??
>
> I have gone to the site but do not understand.
>
> Bob
>
>
> "Mark L. Ferguson" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> systemsabuse.com - Donâ?Tt disable Vista UAC system-wide; disable Vista
>> UAC
>> per application:
>> http://www.systemsabuse.com/2008/01/...r-application/
>>
>> --
>> click the Ratings button. Voting helps the web interface.
>> http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/locales...help_en-us.htm see ''rate a
>> post''
>> Mark L. Ferguson
>>
>> "Davet102" <Davet102@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:7780A36B-1F9B-4306-9658-2C133F78AC64@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > I have 2 situations here but I think they are related.
>> >
>> > 1. I have a couple programs that every time I go to start them I get "A
>> > program needs your permission to continue"
>> > I have to click "continue" so they will run.
>> >
>> > 2. i have several programs that on their desktop icons have the
>> > "Firewall
>> > Shield" on them. (shield divide into 4 colors)
>> >
>> > How do I get the shields to go away?
>> >
>> > How do I get the "need permission" message to stop coming up?
>> >
>> > Bob
>> >
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Old 06-02-2008   #8 (permalink)


Home premium 32 bit, SP1
 
 

Re: Program Permissions

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by t-4-2 View Post
Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Davet102 View Post
I have 2 situations here but I think they are related.

1. I have a couple programs that every time I go to start them I get "A
program needs your permission to continue"
I have to click "continue" so they will run.

2. i have several programs that on their desktop icons have the "Firewall
Shield" on them. (shield divide into 4 colors)

How do I get the shields to go away?

How do I get the "need permission" message to stop coming up?

Bob
Hello Bob,
What you had described was UAC (User Accounts Control ) in action. Please read :

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

What is User Account Control?

In this article
User Account Control (UAC) is a feature in Windows that can help prevent unauthorized changes to your computer. UAC does this by asking you for permission or an administrator* password before performing actions that could potentially affect your computer's operation or that change settings that affect other users. When you see a UAC message, read it carefully, and then make sure the name of the action or program that's about to start is one that you intended to start.
By verifying these actions before they start, UAC can help prevent malicious software (malware) and spyware from installing or making changes to your computer without permission.
When your permission or password is needed to complete a task, UAC will alert you with one of the following messages:
Windows needs your permission to continue


A Windows function or program that can affect other users of this computer needs your permission to start. Check the name of the action to ensure that it's a function or program you want to run.

A program needs your permission to continue


A program that's not part of Windows needs your permission to start. It has a valid digital signature indicating its name and its publisher, which helps to ensure that the program is what it claims to be. Make sure that this is a program that you intended to run.

An unidentified program wants access to your computer


An unidentified program is one that doesn't have a valid digital signature from its publisher to ensure that the program is what it claims to be. This doesn't necessarily indicate danger, as many older, legitimate programs lack signatures. However, you should use extra caution and only allow this program to run if you obtained it from a trusted source, such as the original CD or a publisher's website.

This program has been blocked


This is a program that your administrator has specifically blocked from running on your computer. To run this program, you must contact your administrator and ask to have the program unblocked.

We recommend that you log on to your computer with a standard user account most of the time. You can surf the Internet, send e‑mail, and use a word processor, all without an administrator account. When you want to perform an administrative task, such as installing a new program or changing a setting that will affect other users, you don't have to switch to an administrator account. Windows will prompt you for permission or an administrator password before performing the task.
To help protect your computer, you can create standard user accounts for all the users who share the computer. When someone who has a standard account tries to install software, Windows will ask for an administrator account's password so that software can't be installed without your knowledge and permission.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Unless you are an experienced long time computer user, it is not recommended to turn UAC off although it might be annoying at times. A small price to pay for security of your computer. Having said that, if you insist to turn it off, here is how :-
Click Start button > right panel, click Control Panel > left panel, click Classic view > scroll to find User Accounts icon, right click > click Turn user accounts control on or off > UN-check the box > click OK. You're done.( Remember, you are doing it at the computer's risk. )
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

My apology for submitting such a poor copy of UAC article. Please click the link for a screenshot copy.

ImageGrotto: Free Image and Screenshot Hosting
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Old 06-02-2008   #9 (permalink)
Nonny


 
 

Re: Program Permissions

On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:19:37 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@xxxxxx-email.com>
wrote:
Quote:

>
>My apology for submitting such a poor copy of UAC article. Please click
>the link for a screenshot copy.
>
>'ImageGrotto: Free Image and Screenshot Hosting'
>(http://imagegrotto.com/view-uac_screenshot13757.JPG)
Fer crissakes. What a waste of time. Anyone can see that on their
own computer by accessing Help and Support. They don't need you to
make a screen shot and then post a URL where you uploaded it to.

You've reminded me of "The Rule of the Hammer":

Give a child a hammer and suddenly everything needs hammering.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-03-2008   #10 (permalink)
Charlie Tame


 
 

Re: Program Permissions

Nonny wrote:
Quote:

> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:19:37 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@xxxxxx-email.com>
> wrote:
>
Quote:

>> My apology for submitting such a poor copy of UAC article. Please click
>> the link for a screenshot copy.
>>
>> 'ImageGrotto: Free Image and Screenshot Hosting'
>> (http://imagegrotto.com/view-uac_screenshot13757.JPG)
>
> Fer crissakes. What a waste of time. Anyone can see that on their
> own computer by accessing Help and Support. They don't need you to
> make a screen shot and then post a URL where you uploaded it to.
>
> You've reminded me of "The Rule of the Hammer":
>
> Give a child a hammer and suddenly everything needs hammering.
>
>

Wrong, you cannot see that on your own computer if you do not have
access to Vista, and people ARE interested in these matters whether they
have Vista or not. You are usually complaining that not enough
information is given.

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