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| | Home premium system backup? My Vista Home premium doesn't offer Complete PC backup, and in any case I am not so sure I miss that facility?. What I want is some means to create a CD or DVD from which I can boot my machine and in case I need it reinstall my Vista with all upgrades that were applied at the time I made that backup. If that backup includes all my installed programs at the time so much the better, but backup of my user data is a separate issue that causes me no problem. I once experienced a situation with my older XP machine where I had to reinstall Windows XP from the original recovery CD, after which my machine entered a long process of installing all the upgrades that had been issued since my PC was new. That was not "funny". If Vista (Home premium) offers this facility and I have just overlooked it, OK. If there exists some (reputable) third party product that offers it, OK. In any case I should be very grateful for information. regards Sven |
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| | Re: Home premium system backup? Sven Pran wrote: Quote: > My Vista Home premium doesn't offer Complete PC backup, and in any case I > am not so sure I miss that facility?. > > What I want is some means to create a CD or DVD from which I can boot my > machine and in case I need it reinstall my Vista with all upgrades that > were applied at the time I made that backup. If that backup includes all > my installed programs at the time so much the better, but backup of my > user data is a separate issue that causes me no problem. > > I once experienced a situation with my older XP machine where I had to > reinstall Windows XP from the original recovery CD, after which my machine > entered a long process of installing all the upgrades that had been issued > since my PC was new. That was not "funny". > > If Vista (Home premium) offers this facility and I have just overlooked > it, OK. If there exists some (reputable) third party product that offers > it, OK. In any case I should be very grateful for information. your needs. There are other imaging programs, like Norton Ghost, but I prefer Acronis since I don't purchase Symantec products. YMMV. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com Don't Panic! |
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| | Re: Home premium system backup? "davidoc" <davidoc.3ajskc@xxxxxx-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote in message news:davidoc.3ajskc@xxxxxx-mx.forums.vistaheads.com... Quote: > > i would definitely reccomend Acronis True image. A possible trouble is what I experienced with Norton Ghost which I used on my XP machine: Because it was a TRUE image it had the boot disk address as C: also on the disk copy so when I tried to boot from it (at location E ![]() the boot process would fail. That is why at this time I'd rather fancy the ability to create a recovery (bootable) CD or DVD thatt could replace the original recovery CD as being updated. regards Sven |
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| | Re: Home premium system backup? Sven Pran wrote: Quote: > > "davidoc" <davidoc.3ajskc@xxxxxx-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote in message > news:davidoc.3ajskc@xxxxxx-mx.forums.vistaheads.com... Quote: >> >> i would definitely reccomend Acronis True image. > Thanks, I shall look into that. > > A possible trouble is what I experienced with Norton Ghost which I used > on my XP machine: Because it was a TRUE image it had the boot disk > address as C: also on the disk copy so when I tried to boot from it (at > location E the boot process would fail.> > That is why at this time I'd rather fancy the ability to create a > recovery (bootable) CD or DVD thatt could replace the original recovery > CD as being updated. > > regards Sven of a recovery disc that takes you back to factory condition, why can't one simply make a recovery disc (or multiples -- more likely these days) that simply restores the system to the point in time when that disc was made? Bob |
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| | Re: Home premium system backup? On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:41:44 -0400, bobfnospam@xxxxxx wrote: Quote: >Sven Pran wrote: Quote: >> >> "davidoc" <davidoc.3ajskc@xxxxxx-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote in message >> news:davidoc.3ajskc@xxxxxx-mx.forums.vistaheads.com... Quote: >>> >>> i would definitely reccomend Acronis True image. >> Thanks, I shall look into that. >> >> A possible trouble is what I experienced with Norton Ghost which I used >> on my XP machine: Because it was a TRUE image it had the boot disk >> address as C: also on the disk copy so when I tried to boot from it (at >> location E the boot process would fail.>> >> That is why at this time I'd rather fancy the ability to create a >> recovery (bootable) CD or DVD thatt could replace the original recovery >> CD as being updated. >> >> regards Sven >I've often wondered why such a tool (apparently) doesn't exist. Instead >of a recovery disc that takes you back to factory condition, why can't >one simply make a recovery disc (or multiples -- more likely these days) >that simply restores the system to the point in time when that disc was >made? And what an extra internal hard drive or what an external hard drive is for. |
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| | Re: Home premium system backup? Nonny wrote: Quote: > On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:41:44 -0400, bobfnospam@xxxxxx wrote: > Quote: >> Sven Pran wrote: Quote: >>> "davidoc" <davidoc.3ajskc@xxxxxx-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote in message >>> news:davidoc.3ajskc@xxxxxx-mx.forums.vistaheads.com... >>>> i would definitely reccomend Acronis True image. >>> Thanks, I shall look into that. >>> >>> A possible trouble is what I experienced with Norton Ghost which I used >>> on my XP machine: Because it was a TRUE image it had the boot disk >>> address as C: also on the disk copy so when I tried to boot from it (at >>> location E the boot process would fail.>>> >>> That is why at this time I'd rather fancy the ability to create a >>> recovery (bootable) CD or DVD thatt could replace the original recovery >>> CD as being updated. >>> >>> regards Sven >> of a recovery disc that takes you back to factory condition, why can't >> one simply make a recovery disc (or multiples -- more likely these days) >> that simply restores the system to the point in time when that disc was >> made? > That's what backup programs like Acronis True Image are for. > > And what an extra internal hard drive or what an external hard drive > is for. nearly ubiquitous these days, why buy something else (other than DVD blanks, which are quite cheap)? Can ATI create a bootable recovery DVD set? Bob |
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| | Re: Home premium system backup? On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:48:38 -0400, bobfnospam@xxxxxx wrote: Quote: >Nonny wrote: Quote: >> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:41:44 -0400, bobfnospam@xxxxxx wrote: >> Quote: >>> Sven Pran wrote: >>>> "davidoc" <davidoc.3ajskc@xxxxxx-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote in message >>>> news:davidoc.3ajskc@xxxxxx-mx.forums.vistaheads.com... >>>>> i would definitely reccomend Acronis True image. >>>> Thanks, I shall look into that. >>>> >>>> A possible trouble is what I experienced with Norton Ghost which I used >>>> on my XP machine: Because it was a TRUE image it had the boot disk >>>> address as C: also on the disk copy so when I tried to boot from it (at >>>> location E the boot process would fail.>>>> >>>> That is why at this time I'd rather fancy the ability to create a >>>> recovery (bootable) CD or DVD thatt could replace the original recovery >>>> CD as being updated. >>>> >>>> regards Sven >>> I've often wondered why such a tool (apparently) doesn't exist. Instead >>> of a recovery disc that takes you back to factory condition, why can't >>> one simply make a recovery disc (or multiples -- more likely these days) >>> that simply restores the system to the point in time when that disc was >>> made? >> That's what backup programs like Acronis True Image are for. >> >> And what an extra internal hard drive or what an external hard drive >> is for. >But you don't need an extra hard drive -- drives that can write DVDs are >nearly ubiquitous these days, why buy something else (other than DVD >blanks, which are quite cheap)? Can ATI create a bootable recovery DVD set? create a bootable DVD set... if it can, I'm not aware of it. |
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| | Re: Home premium system backup? Hey, I bought Acronis True Image and I bought an external harddisk. I had ATI make an initial complete backup of my computer to the external harddisk, and for the disaster situation if my internal harddisk ever becomes unbootable I had ATI create a bootable CD that will allow me to restore my system from the external harddisk to a brand new (or completely reformatted) internal harddisk. That is all I ask from any backup system. And BTW: Thanks to those who called my attention to Acronis, it's just great. regards Sven "Nonny" <nonnymoose@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:l5gt445nc05nd1pen9m5565t57er95k4p2@xxxxxx Quote: > On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:48:38 -0400, bobfnospam@xxxxxx wrote: > Quote: >>Nonny wrote: Quote: >>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:41:44 -0400, bobfnospam@xxxxxx wrote: >>> >>>> Sven Pran wrote: >>>>> "davidoc" <davidoc.3ajskc@xxxxxx-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote in >>>>> message >>>>> news:davidoc.3ajskc@xxxxxx-mx.forums.vistaheads.com... >>>>>> i would definitely reccomend Acronis True image. >>>>> Thanks, I shall look into that. >>>>> >>>>> A possible trouble is what I experienced with Norton Ghost which I >>>>> used >>>>> on my XP machine: Because it was a TRUE image it had the boot disk >>>>> address as C: also on the disk copy so when I tried to boot from it >>>>> (at >>>>> location E the boot process would fail.>>>>> >>>>> That is why at this time I'd rather fancy the ability to create a >>>>> recovery (bootable) CD or DVD thatt could replace the original >>>>> recovery >>>>> CD as being updated. >>>>> >>>>> regards Sven >>>> I've often wondered why such a tool (apparently) doesn't exist. >>>> Instead >>>> of a recovery disc that takes you back to factory condition, why can't >>>> one simply make a recovery disc (or multiples -- more likely these >>>> days) >>>> that simply restores the system to the point in time when that disc was >>>> made? >>> >>> That's what backup programs like Acronis True Image are for. >>> >>> And what an extra internal hard drive or what an external hard drive >>> is for. >>But you don't need an extra hard drive -- drives that can write DVDs are >>nearly ubiquitous these days, why buy something else (other than DVD >>blanks, which are quite cheap)? Can ATI create a bootable recovery DVD >>set? > While it can create a bootable CD with its program on it, it can't > create a bootable DVD set... if it can, I'm not aware of it. |
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