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06-18-2008
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| | Re: Windows vista disk fragmenter easting A LOT of disk space Shoulda, woulda, coulda is all very nice but fragmentation is still a fact of life. "ray" <ray@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:6bsgagF3e7d1pU1@xxxxxx Quote: > On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:50:01 -0700, scottyjamison wrote: > Quote: >> I am a relatively unexperienced windows vista user using windows home >> premium at 32 bit on an acer aspire 6920 notebook. I noticed that >> occassionaly my disk space would drop dramatically without me doing >> anything. 100s of mbs would just disappear for no reason, so probably >> being stupid i decided to run the disk fragmenter to try and fix the >> problem. BUT to my horror i was shocked to find that the disk >> fragmenter began to eat up my hard disk space big style. I went from >> 79.7GB to 72.5GB in just over an hour. >> >> What the hell happened and can it be fixed? can i get my disk space >> back? i thought the disk fragmenter was supposed to help your computer >> not rob it. >> >> does anyone else have this problem and can someone please help me? im >> kinda desparate, i cant believe it. >> >> P.S if someone is kind enough to give me advice and you keep it simple >> so i can understand and follow it. > I wonder where you found the "disk fragmenter" - most folks use a disk > defragmenter - though I'm not sure why - this IS the 21st century and a > properly designed filesystem should not need it. |
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06-18-2008
| #12 (permalink) |
| | Re: Windows vista disk fragmenter easting A LOT of disk space On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:15:46 -0600, Colin Barnhorst wrote: Quote: > Shoulda, woulda, coulda is all very nice but fragmentation is still a > fact of life. had a fragmentation problem. Quote: > > "ray" <ray@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:6bsgagF3e7d1pU1@xxxxxx Quote: >> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:50:01 -0700, scottyjamison wrote: >> Quote: >>> I am a relatively unexperienced windows vista user using windows home >>> premium at 32 bit on an acer aspire 6920 notebook. I noticed that >>> occassionaly my disk space would drop dramatically without me doing >>> anything. 100s of mbs would just disappear for no reason, so probably >>> being stupid i decided to run the disk fragmenter to try and fix the >>> problem. BUT to my horror i was shocked to find that the disk >>> fragmenter began to eat up my hard disk space big style. I went from >>> 79.7GB to 72.5GB in just over an hour. >>> >>> What the hell happened and can it be fixed? can i get my disk space >>> back? i thought the disk fragmenter was supposed to help your >>> computer not rob it. >>> >>> does anyone else have this problem and can someone please help me? im >>> kinda desparate, i cant believe it. >>> >>> P.S if someone is kind enough to give me advice and you keep it simple >>> so i can understand and follow it. >> I wonder where you found the "disk fragmenter" - most folks use a disk >> defragmenter - though I'm not sure why - this IS the 21st century and a >> properly designed filesystem should not need it. |
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06-18-2008
| #13 (permalink) |
| | Re: Windows vista disk fragmenter easting A LOT of disk space Even OS/X runs a "cleanup" following an installation that is really a defrag. "ray" <ray@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:6bsv4hF3dnca1U3@xxxxxx Quote: > On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:15:46 -0600, Colin Barnhorst wrote: > Quote: >> Shoulda, woulda, coulda is all very nice but fragmentation is still a >> fact of life. > Except, apparently, for *nix systems. Been using them since 1992 - never > had a fragmentation problem. > > Quote: >> >> "ray" <ray@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:6bsgagF3e7d1pU1@xxxxxx Quote: >>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:50:01 -0700, scottyjamison wrote: >>> >>>> I am a relatively unexperienced windows vista user using windows home >>>> premium at 32 bit on an acer aspire 6920 notebook. I noticed that >>>> occassionaly my disk space would drop dramatically without me doing >>>> anything. 100s of mbs would just disappear for no reason, so probably >>>> being stupid i decided to run the disk fragmenter to try and fix the >>>> problem. BUT to my horror i was shocked to find that the disk >>>> fragmenter began to eat up my hard disk space big style. I went from >>>> 79.7GB to 72.5GB in just over an hour. >>>> >>>> What the hell happened and can it be fixed? can i get my disk space >>>> back? i thought the disk fragmenter was supposed to help your >>>> computer not rob it. >>>> >>>> does anyone else have this problem and can someone please help me? im >>>> kinda desparate, i cant believe it. >>>> >>>> P.S if someone is kind enough to give me advice and you keep it simple >>>> so i can understand and follow it. >>> >>> I wonder where you found the "disk fragmenter" - most folks use a disk >>> defragmenter - though I'm not sure why - this IS the 21st century and a >>> properly designed filesystem should not need it. |
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06-18-2008
| #14 (permalink) |
| | Re: Windows vista disk fragmenter easting A LOT of disk space So no one has an idea why, when i used disk defragmentation on vista, it used up 7GB of hard drive space? i know it is not supposed to but i wasn't doing anything else on my laptop so it has to be the defragmentation. When i stopped the disk defragmentation process my hard drive size ceased to decrease further, it stopped when defragmentation stopped. "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: Quote: > Even OS/X runs a "cleanup" following an installation that is really a > defrag. > > "ray" <ray@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:6bsv4hF3dnca1U3@xxxxxx Quote: > > On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:15:46 -0600, Colin Barnhorst wrote: > > Quote: > >> Shoulda, woulda, coulda is all very nice but fragmentation is still a > >> fact of life. > > Except, apparently, for *nix systems. Been using them since 1992 - never > > had a fragmentation problem. > > > > Quote: > >> > >> "ray" <ray@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >> news:6bsgagF3e7d1pU1@xxxxxx > >>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:50:01 -0700, scottyjamison wrote: > >>> > >>>> I am a relatively unexperienced windows vista user using windows home > >>>> premium at 32 bit on an acer aspire 6920 notebook. I noticed that > >>>> occassionaly my disk space would drop dramatically without me doing > >>>> anything. 100s of mbs would just disappear for no reason, so probably > >>>> being stupid i decided to run the disk fragmenter to try and fix the > >>>> problem. BUT to my horror i was shocked to find that the disk > >>>> fragmenter began to eat up my hard disk space big style. I went from > >>>> 79.7GB to 72.5GB in just over an hour. > >>>> > >>>> What the hell happened and can it be fixed? can i get my disk space > >>>> back? i thought the disk fragmenter was supposed to help your > >>>> computer not rob it. > >>>> > >>>> does anyone else have this problem and can someone please help me? im > >>>> kinda desparate, i cant believe it. > >>>> > >>>> P.S if someone is kind enough to give me advice and you keep it simple > >>>> so i can understand and follow it. > >>> > >>> I wonder where you found the "disk fragmenter" - most folks use a disk > >>> defragmenter - though I'm not sure why - this IS the 21st century and a > >>> properly designed filesystem should not need it. |
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06-18-2008
| #15 (permalink) |
| | Re: Windows vista disk fragmenter easting A LOT of disk space Defragmentation does not use disk space like that. It just doesn't work that way. It uses disk space but it moves files not creates them. "scottyjamison" <scottyjamison@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:FFC1C83C-34F4-4F79-9040-0737FD6A7067@xxxxxx Quote: > So no one has an idea why, when i used disk defragmentation on vista, it > used > up 7GB of hard drive space? i know it is not supposed to but i wasn't > doing > anything else on my laptop so it has to be the defragmentation. When i > stopped the disk defragmentation process my hard drive size ceased to > decrease further, it stopped when defragmentation stopped. > > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: > Quote: >> Even OS/X runs a "cleanup" following an installation that is really a >> defrag. >> >> "ray" <ray@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:6bsv4hF3dnca1U3@xxxxxx Quote: >> > On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:15:46 -0600, Colin Barnhorst wrote: >> > >> >> Shoulda, woulda, coulda is all very nice but fragmentation is still a >> >> fact of life. >> > >> > Except, apparently, for *nix systems. Been using them since 1992 - >> > never >> > had a fragmentation problem. >> > >> > >> >> >> >> "ray" <ray@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> >> news:6bsgagF3e7d1pU1@xxxxxx >> >>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:50:01 -0700, scottyjamison wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> I am a relatively unexperienced windows vista user using windows >> >>>> home >> >>>> premium at 32 bit on an acer aspire 6920 notebook. I noticed that >> >>>> occassionaly my disk space would drop dramatically without me doing >> >>>> anything. 100s of mbs would just disappear for no reason, so >> >>>> probably >> >>>> being stupid i decided to run the disk fragmenter to try and fix the >> >>>> problem. BUT to my horror i was shocked to find that the disk >> >>>> fragmenter began to eat up my hard disk space big style. I went >> >>>> from >> >>>> 79.7GB to 72.5GB in just over an hour. >> >>>> >> >>>> What the hell happened and can it be fixed? can i get my disk space >> >>>> back? i thought the disk fragmenter was supposed to help your >> >>>> computer not rob it. >> >>>> >> >>>> does anyone else have this problem and can someone please help me? >> >>>> im >> >>>> kinda desparate, i cant believe it. >> >>>> >> >>>> P.S if someone is kind enough to give me advice and you keep it >> >>>> simple >> >>>> so i can understand and follow it. >> >>> >> >>> I wonder where you found the "disk fragmenter" - most folks use a >> >>> disk >> >>> defragmenter - though I'm not sure why - this IS the 21st century and >> >>> a >> >>> properly designed filesystem should not need it. >> > |
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06-18-2008
| #16 (permalink) |
| | Re: Windows vista disk fragmenter easting A LOT of disk space > Defragmentation does not use disk space like that. It just doesn't work Quote: > that way. It uses disk space but it moves files not creates them. something else going on here. It's nothing at all to do with defragging. SteveT |
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06-18-2008
| #17 (permalink) |
| | Re: Windows vista disk fragmenter easting A LOT of disk space On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:12:03 -0700, scottyjamison <scottyjamison@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >So no one has an idea why, when i used disk defragmentation on vista, it used >up 7GB of hard drive space? i know it is not supposed to but i wasn't doing >anything else on my laptop so it has to be the defragmentation. When i >stopped the disk defragmentation process my hard drive size ceased to >decrease further, it stopped when defragmentation stopped. "What can happen is that the amount of free space can be erroneously reported after a lot of deletions and defragging can force the system to re-enumerate the free space. I have seen that strange effect a couple of time under both XP and Vista. It isn't common but emptying the recycle bin and then running a defragger can resolve such an issue." Quote: >"Colin Barnhorst" wrote: > Quote: >> Even OS/X runs a "cleanup" following an installation that is really a >> defrag. >> >> "ray" <ray@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:6bsv4hF3dnca1U3@xxxxxx Quote: >> > On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:15:46 -0600, Colin Barnhorst wrote: >> > >> >> Shoulda, woulda, coulda is all very nice but fragmentation is still a >> >> fact of life. >> > >> > Except, apparently, for *nix systems. Been using them since 1992 - never >> > had a fragmentation problem. >> > >> > >> >> >> >> "ray" <ray@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> >> news:6bsgagF3e7d1pU1@xxxxxx >> >>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:50:01 -0700, scottyjamison wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> I am a relatively unexperienced windows vista user using windows home >> >>>> premium at 32 bit on an acer aspire 6920 notebook. I noticed that >> >>>> occassionaly my disk space would drop dramatically without me doing >> >>>> anything. 100s of mbs would just disappear for no reason, so probably >> >>>> being stupid i decided to run the disk fragmenter to try and fix the >> >>>> problem. BUT to my horror i was shocked to find that the disk >> >>>> fragmenter began to eat up my hard disk space big style. I went from >> >>>> 79.7GB to 72.5GB in just over an hour. >> >>>> >> >>>> What the hell happened and can it be fixed? can i get my disk space >> >>>> back? i thought the disk fragmenter was supposed to help your >> >>>> computer not rob it. >> >>>> >> >>>> does anyone else have this problem and can someone please help me? im >> >>>> kinda desparate, i cant believe it. >> >>>> >> >>>> P.S if someone is kind enough to give me advice and you keep it simple >> >>>> so i can understand and follow it. >> >>> >> >>> I wonder where you found the "disk fragmenter" - most folks use a disk >> >>> defragmenter - though I'm not sure why - this IS the 21st century and a >> >>> properly designed filesystem should not need it. >> > |
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06-18-2008
| #18 (permalink) |
| | Re: Windows vista disk fragmenter easting A LOT of disk space I don't know if what he does on his computer triggers an automatic defrag (some third party defragger kicking in perhaps) and he associates that with the file space issue by coincidence but I agree with you that something else is going on. "Steve Thackery" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OjE2mCZ0IHA.4572@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: >> Defragmentation does not use disk space like that. It just doesn't work >> that way. It uses disk space but it moves files not creates them. > That's exactly what I said. Due respect to scottyjamison, but there's > something else going on here. It's nothing at all to do with defragging. > > SteveT |
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