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| | Hibernation: do web site recommendations give wrong information about its resource load? Hello all: Does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it reserves on the hard drive? I know that it saves a file to the hard drive that is the size of installed RAM, but is it running background services that use up CPU, RAM or other resources when you are working? There are many web sites offering tips to speed up Vista, and many of them include the following statement: "Windows hibernation background services can use a large amount of system resources. If you don't use the Hibernate feature on a regular basis you may want to disable it to give Vista a performance boost." They offer no documentation of this statement. Is it accurate or not? So, does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it reserves on the hard drive? Thanks |
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| | RE: Hibernation: do web site recommendations give wrong information a As far as the user is concerned, No. Try this simple home demonstration: (these numbers are approximate) 1) Open up Task Manager and observe CPU and Memory usage. At idle (a few windows opened but no tasks being performed) CPU usage is about 2%, Memory is about 55% 2) Now connect to the internet and open up IE. No data being transferred. CPU=3% Memory 55% 3) Open WMP. Play a song. CPU= 14%. Memory= 50-60%. 4) Now play a video clip using a different video player than WMP which is playing a song. CPU fluctuates 27-48%. Memory is 50-60% I'm using Core Duo 1.8GHZ, 2GB RAM, Vista Home Premium The point is, even if Hibernation is doing some housekeeping in the background, it is so tiny that it will make no discernable difference in computer performance whether you disable Hibernation or not. As you've suspected, the "tip" of disabling Hibernation to gain system speed is incorrect. But you want to gain extra disc space, then disable Hibernation and clean out its file. -- oscar ![]() ....Right click is your best friend... "Tuttle" wrote: Quote: > Hello all: > > Does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it reserves > on the hard drive? I know that it saves a file to the hard drive that is the > size of installed RAM, but is it running background services that use up > CPU, RAM or other resources when you are working? > > There are many web sites offering tips to speed up Vista, and many of them > include the following statement: > "Windows hibernation background services can use a large amount of system > resources. If you don't use the Hibernate feature on a regular basis you may > want to disable it to give Vista a performance boost." > > They offer no documentation of this statement. Is it accurate or not? > > So, does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it > reserves on the hard drive? > > Thanks > > > > |
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| | Re: Hibernation: do web site recommendations give wrong information about its resource load? It is a case of sloppy journalism - yes, the statement is true so far as "resources" can include disk space. However, the more common use does not include disk space but (as you indicate) when folks say "resources" they usually mean memory or CPU time or such. Using the more common meaning of "resources" the answer is no. When the system is in hibernation it is powered down and when it is resumed from hibernation it is running as it always is. -- Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@xxxxxx * NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/ * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/ "Tuttle" <nospamhere@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:Oy5PbiY3IHA.3384@xxxxxx Quote: > Hello all: > > Does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it reserves > on the hard drive? I know that it saves a file to the hard drive that is > the > size of installed RAM, but is it running background services that use up > CPU, RAM or other resources when you are working? > > There are many web sites offering tips to speed up Vista, and many of them > include the following statement: > "Windows hibernation background services can use a large amount of system > resources. If you don't use the Hibernate feature on a regular basis you > may > want to disable it to give Vista a performance boost." > > They offer no documentation of this statement. Is it accurate or not? > > So, does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it > reserves on the hard drive? > > Thanks > > > |
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| | Re: Hibernation: do web site recommendations give wrong information about its resource load? "Tuttle" <nospamhere@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:Oy5PbiY3IHA.3384@xxxxxx Quote: > Hello all: > > Does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it reserves > on the hard drive? I know that it saves a file to the hard drive that is > the > size of installed RAM, but is it running background services that use up > CPU, RAM or other resources when you are working? > > There are many web sites offering tips to speed up Vista, and many of them > include the following statement: > "Windows hibernation background services can use a large amount of system > resources. If you don't use the Hibernate feature on a regular basis you > may > want to disable it to give Vista a performance boost." > > They offer no documentation of this statement. Is it accurate or not? > > So, does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it > reserves on the hard drive? complete technical ineptitude! www.kkomp.com ss. |
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| | RE: Hibernation: do web site recommendations give wrong informati Oops. Syntax error in my last post: "But you want to gain extra disc space, then disable Hibernation and clean out its file." Correction: "But if you want to gain extra disc space, then disable Hibernation and clean out its file." -- oscar ![]() ....Right click is your best friend... "oscar" wrote: Quote: > As far as the user is concerned, No. > > Try this simple home demonstration: (these numbers are approximate) > 1) Open up Task Manager and observe CPU and Memory usage. > At idle (a few windows opened but no tasks being performed) CPU usage is > about 2%, Memory is about 55% > 2) Now connect to the internet and open up IE. No data being transferred. > CPU=3% Memory 55% > 3) Open WMP. Play a song. CPU= 14%. Memory= 50-60%. > 4) Now play a video clip using a different video player than WMP which is > playing a song. CPU fluctuates 27-48%. Memory is 50-60% > > I'm using Core Duo 1.8GHZ, 2GB RAM, Vista Home Premium > > The point is, even if Hibernation is doing some housekeeping in the > background, it is so tiny that it will make no discernable difference in > computer performance whether you disable Hibernation or not. > > As you've suspected, the "tip" of disabling Hibernation to gain system speed > is incorrect. But you want to gain extra disc space, then disable Hibernation > and clean out its file. > -- > oscar ![]() > > ...Right click is your best friend... > > > "Tuttle" wrote: > Quote: > > Hello all: > > > > Does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it reserves > > on the hard drive? I know that it saves a file to the hard drive that is the > > size of installed RAM, but is it running background services that use up > > CPU, RAM or other resources when you are working? > > > > There are many web sites offering tips to speed up Vista, and many of them > > include the following statement: > > "Windows hibernation background services can use a large amount of system > > resources. If you don't use the Hibernate feature on a regular basis you may > > want to disable it to give Vista a performance boost." > > > > They offer no documentation of this statement. Is it accurate or not? > > > > So, does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it > > reserves on the hard drive? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > |
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| | Re: Hibernation: do web site recommendations give wrong information about its resource load? Thank you Richard. I'm glad to hear someone knowledgeable confirm what I suspected. Is Hibernate considered generally reliable? I've read reports of some services not working properly after awaking from Hibernate. I myself saw some application hangs after awaking from Hibernate, but they could of course have been caused by something other than Hibernate. "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uItJuxb3IHA.2064@xxxxxx Quote: > It is a case of sloppy journalism - yes, the statement is true so far as > "resources" can include disk space. However, the more common use does not > include disk space but (as you indicate) when folks say "resources" they > usually mean memory or CPU time or such. Using the more common meaning of > "resources" the answer is no. When the system is in hibernation it is > powered down and when it is resumed from hibernation it is running as it > always is. > > -- > Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@xxxxxx > * NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/ > * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups > * The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/ > > > "Tuttle" <nospamhere@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:Oy5PbiY3IHA.3384@xxxxxx Quote: > > Hello all: > > > > Does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it Quote: Quote: > > on the hard drive? I know that it saves a file to the hard drive that is > > the > > size of installed RAM, but is it running background services that use up > > CPU, RAM or other resources when you are working? > > > > There are many web sites offering tips to speed up Vista, and many of Quote: Quote: > > include the following statement: > > "Windows hibernation background services can use a large amount of Quote: Quote: > > resources. If you don't use the Hibernate feature on a regular basis you > > may > > want to disable it to give Vista a performance boost." > > > > They offer no documentation of this statement. Is it accurate or not? > > > > So, does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it > > reserves on the hard drive? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > |
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| | Re: Hibernation: do web site recommendations give wrong information a Thank you Oscar. I'm glad to hear someone knowledgeable confirm what I suspected. Is Hibernate considered generally reliable? I've read reports of some services not working properly after awaking from Hibernate. I myself saw some application hangs after awaking from Hibernate, but they could of course have been caused by something other than Hibernate. "oscar" <oscar@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:CBB928EF-F6E1-4737-8135-9170368B8C81@xxxxxx Quote: > As far as the user is concerned, No. > > Try this simple home demonstration: (these numbers are approximate) > 1) Open up Task Manager and observe CPU and Memory usage. > At idle (a few windows opened but no tasks being performed) CPU usage is > about 2%, Memory is about 55% > 2) Now connect to the internet and open up IE. No data being transferred. > CPU=3% Memory 55% > 3) Open WMP. Play a song. CPU= 14%. Memory= 50-60%. > 4) Now play a video clip using a different video player than WMP which is > playing a song. CPU fluctuates 27-48%. Memory is 50-60% > > I'm using Core Duo 1.8GHZ, 2GB RAM, Vista Home Premium > > The point is, even if Hibernation is doing some housekeeping in the > background, it is so tiny that it will make no discernable difference in > computer performance whether you disable Hibernation or not. > > As you've suspected, the "tip" of disabling Hibernation to gain system Quote: > is incorrect. But you want to gain extra disc space, then disable Quote: > and clean out its file. > -- > oscar ![]() > > ...Right click is your best friend... > > > "Tuttle" wrote: > Quote: > > Hello all: > > > > Does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it Quote: Quote: > > on the hard drive? I know that it saves a file to the hard drive that is Quote: Quote: > > size of installed RAM, but is it running background services that use up > > CPU, RAM or other resources when you are working? > > > > There are many web sites offering tips to speed up Vista, and many of Quote: Quote: > > include the following statement: > > "Windows hibernation background services can use a large amount of Quote: Quote: > > resources. If you don't use the Hibernate feature on a regular basis you Quote: Quote: > > want to disable it to give Vista a performance boost." > > > > They offer no documentation of this statement. Is it accurate or not? > > > > So, does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it > > reserves on the hard drive? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > |
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| | Re: Hibernation: do web site recommendations give wrong information about its resource load? I always hibernate my laptop before moving it (at least twice a day, once in the morning and once in the afternoon) and I have never had any problems with programs or services not responding or not working afterwards. I probably only shut down or restart it a couple times a month. But it could simply be that all my programs, services, drivers, etc. are well-behaved and respond properly to a change in power state message. Other programs, drivers, services, etc. might not be so well-behaved and might cause problems. -- Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@xxxxxx * NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/ * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/ "Tuttle" <nospamhere@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eoieFze3IHA.4036@xxxxxx Quote: > Thank you Richard. I'm glad to hear someone knowledgeable confirm what I > suspected. > > Is Hibernate considered generally reliable? I've read reports of some > services not working properly after awaking from Hibernate. I myself saw > some application hangs after awaking from Hibernate, but they could of > course have been caused by something other than Hibernate. |
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| | Re: Hibernation: do web site recommendations give wrong information about its resource load? Certainly head-on the site is, more or less, kinda silly. The hyperlinks listed down the page do appear to have been placed by someone who is knowledgeable of computers and Windows. Gene K "Censored Syndrome" <synapse@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OVIUB9b3IHA.1204@xxxxxx Quote: > "Tuttle" <nospamhere@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:Oy5PbiY3IHA.3384@xxxxxx Quote: >> Hello all: >> >> Does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it >> reserves >> on the hard drive? I know that it saves a file to the hard drive that is >> the >> size of installed RAM, but is it running background services that use up >> CPU, RAM or other resources when you are working? >> >> There are many web sites offering tips to speed up Vista, and many of >> them >> include the following statement: >> "Windows hibernation background services can use a large amount of system >> resources. If you don't use the Hibernate feature on a regular basis you >> may >> want to disable it to give Vista a performance boost." >> >> They offer no documentation of this statement. Is it accurate or not? >> >> So, does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it >> reserves on the hard drive? > Anybody can write a load of rubbish on a website. Here's an example of > complete technical ineptitude! > > www.kkomp.com > > ss. > |
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| | Re: Hibernation: do web site recommendations give wrong information about its resource load? "Tuttle" <nospamhere@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >Hello all: > >Does Hibernation use any system resources other than the space it reserves >on the hard drive? I know that it saves a file to the hard drive that is the >size of installed RAM, but is it running background services that use up >CPU, RAM or other resources when you are working? it's using nothing at all. When you restart, it reads the hibernate file, starts itself from that, then runs just like any other bootup. -- Tim Slattery MS MVP(Shell/User) Slattery_T@xxxxxx http://members.cox.net/slatteryt |
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