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Old 09-12-2006   #1 (permalink)
Rick Hallman


 
 

Sun Java turns off Aero effects while active

I went to a website today that required Java and I found out that IE no
longer includes Java. The link that popped up sent me to a MS page that
stated this. I installed Sun's Java VM and everything works OK. Now when I
go to a website that requires this plug-in I receive a notice that my
desktop has been changed to Windows Vista Basic. When I leave the webpage
it converts back to Vista Aero.


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Old 09-12-2006   #2 (permalink)
Rock


 
 

Re: Sun Java turns off Aero effects while active

"Rick Hallman" <rehallman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BEDAEC18-969A-438E-8111-217A62D517FE@microsoft.com...
>I went to a website today that required Java and I found out that IE no
>longer includes Java. The link that popped up sent me to a MS page that
>stated this. I installed Sun's Java VM and everything works OK. Now when
>I go to a website that requires this plug-in I receive a notice that my
>desktop has been changed to Windows Vista Basic. When I leave the webpage
>it converts back to Vista Aero.



What version did you install? There is a Beta 6 version.

--
Rock [MVP Windows Shell/User]

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Old 09-12-2006   #3 (permalink)
Rick Hallman


 
 

Re: Sun Java turns off Aero effects while active

Java Runtime Environment Version 5.0 Update 6


Where do you get the beta version you mentioned.


"Rock" <rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:u0riK1r1GHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> "Rick Hallman" <rehallman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:BEDAEC18-969A-438E-8111-217A62D517FE@microsoft.com...
>>I went to a website today that required Java and I found out that IE no
>>longer includes Java. The link that popped up sent me to a MS page that
>>stated this. I installed Sun's Java VM and everything works OK. Now when
>>I go to a website that requires this plug-in I receive a notice that my
>>desktop has been changed to Windows Vista Basic. When I leave the webpage
>>it converts back to Vista Aero.

>
>
> What version did you install? There is a Beta 6 version.
>
> --
> Rock [MVP Windows Shell/User]


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Old 09-12-2006   #4 (permalink)
Rick Hallman


 
 

Re: Sun Java 6.2 Vista Notes

The following notes apply to use of this release on Windows Vista platforms.

a.. On Windows Vista, there is a more restrictive sandbox for signed
applets. A user has fewer privileges than if they were running on another
Windows OS.


On a Windows OS other than Windows Vista, when running a signed applet, a
user is prompted with a security warning dialog box and must respond. If
"Yes" is clicked, the applet will have AllPermissions to run on the user's
machine. This includes permission to write/delete a file from the local
disk.

On a Windows Vista OS, this is no longer true. Instead, AllPermissions is
limited to Java Applet scope, not Windows scope. Because a process running
in IE has a low integrity level, it will not be able to write/delete a file
from a medium/high integrity level directory.

b.. A signed JNLP application can run only with medium integrity. Granting
AllPermissions in a Java Web Start application only permits the Security
Manager to allow operations that it would otherwise deny by throwing
SecurityExceptions. It does not in any way elevate the permissions a user or
a process has on the system.

c.. Due to limitations of Windows Vista, Java Plugin will no longer be
able to write any file into the jre/lib/ext directory from IE protected
mode. Java plugin extension install will not work as it does on other
Windows OS platforms.


d.. On Windows Vista the use of DirectDraw for hardware acceleration is
currently disabled by default because of incompatibilities with Vista's
Desktop Window Manager.


The -Dsun.java2d.noddraw=false property can be used to re-enable the use
of the DirectDraw pipeline. However, this is not recommended due to
rendering artifacts and performance problems. To also enable the Direct3D
pipeline, a combination of the aforementioned flag and -Dsun.java2d.d3d=true
should be used.


See bug report 6343853 for more information

"Rock" <rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:u0riK1r1GHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> "Rick Hallman" <rehallman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:BEDAEC18-969A-438E-8111-217A62D517FE@microsoft.com...
>>I went to a website today that required Java and I found out that IE no
>>longer includes Java. The link that popped up sent me to a MS page that
>>stated this. I installed Sun's Java VM and everything works OK. Now when
>>I go to a website that requires this plug-in I receive a notice that my
>>desktop has been changed to Windows Vista Basic. When I leave the webpage
>>it converts back to Vista Aero.

>
>
> What version did you install? There is a Beta 6 version.
>
> --
> Rock [MVP Windows Shell/User]


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Old 09-12-2006   #5 (permalink)
Rock


 
 

Re: Sun Java turns off Aero effects while active

"Rick Hallman" wrote

> Java Runtime Environment Version 5.0 Update 6
>
> Where do you get the beta version you mentioned.
>
> "Rock" wrote


>> "Rick Hallman" wrote


>>>I went to a website today that required Java and I found out that IE no
>>>longer includes Java. The link that popped up sent me to a MS page that
>>>stated this. I installed Sun's Java VM and everything works OK. Now
>>>when I go to a website that requires this plug-in I receive a notice that
>>>my desktop has been changed to Windows Vista Basic. When I leave the
>>>webpage it converts back to Vista Aero.

>>
>>
>> What version did you install? There is a Beta 6 version.
>>
>> --
>> Rock [MVP Windows Shell/User]

>



You can get it from here.
https://sdlc6b.sun.com/ECom/EComActi...93DA6604E89B39

--
Rock [MVP Windows Shell/User]

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Old 09-12-2006   #6 (permalink)
Colin Barnhorst


 
 

Re: Sun Java turns off Aero effects while active

Here is the page with the latest beta. It is the first download under
"Windows Platform". I am it using on RC1 x64.
http://download.java.net/jdk6/binaries/

"Rick Hallman" <rehallman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:umR2L5r1GHA.4388@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Java Runtime Environment Version 5.0 Update 6
>
>
> Where do you get the beta version you mentioned.
>
>
> "Rock" <rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:u0riK1r1GHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> "Rick Hallman" <rehallman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:BEDAEC18-969A-438E-8111-217A62D517FE@microsoft.com...
>>>I went to a website today that required Java and I found out that IE no
>>>longer includes Java. The link that popped up sent me to a MS page that
>>>stated this. I installed Sun's Java VM and everything works OK. Now
>>>when I go to a website that requires this plug-in I receive a notice that
>>>my desktop has been changed to Windows Vista Basic. When I leave the
>>>webpage it converts back to Vista Aero.

>>
>>
>> What version did you install? There is a Beta 6 version.
>>
>> --
>> Rock [MVP Windows Shell/User]

>



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Old 09-12-2006   #7 (permalink)
Rob Wilkens


 
 

Re: Sun Java turns off Aero effects while active


"Rock" <rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:u0riK1r1GHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> What version did you install? There is a Beta 6 version.


I don't recommend (not that I am a person of influence) Beta 6 of Java
Runtime Environment UNDER Vista. For some reason, with Beta 6 version (or
rather Java 6 beta 2 version) I can't seem to open a "File Open Dialog"
(Chooser) from my home-spun Java application in Vista. Reverting back to
Java 5 runtime 6 or 8, the File Open (Chooser) Dialog works in Vista.

I know I probably should report this to Sun, but I haven't looked at the
console to see if there was a stack trace yet which I'd probably need if I
were to submit something to Sun.

-rob

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Old 09-12-2006   #8 (permalink)
Colin Barnhorst


 
 

Re: Sun Java turns off Aero effects while active

Try the latest snapshot from: http://download.java.net/jdk6/binaries/

"Rob Wilkens" <RobWilkens@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:3996934C-A967-4C60-A1C5-218FF39B0429@microsoft.com...
>
> "Rock" <rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:u0riK1r1GHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> What version did you install? There is a Beta 6 version.

>
> I don't recommend (not that I am a person of influence) Beta 6 of Java
> Runtime Environment UNDER Vista. For some reason, with Beta 6 version (or
> rather Java 6 beta 2 version) I can't seem to open a "File Open Dialog"
> (Chooser) from my home-spun Java application in Vista. Reverting back to
> Java 5 runtime 6 or 8, the File Open (Chooser) Dialog works in Vista.
>
> I know I probably should report this to Sun, but I haven't looked at the
> console to see if there was a stack trace yet which I'd probably need if I
> were to submit something to Sun.
>
> -rob
>



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Old 09-12-2006   #9 (permalink)
Rob Wilkens


 
 

Re: Sun Java turns off Aero effects while active

Works! Thank you.

-Rob

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
news:OnMTDNt1GHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Try the latest snapshot from: http://download.java.net/jdk6/binaries/
>
> "Rob Wilkens" <RobWilkens@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:3996934C-A967-4C60-A1C5-218FF39B0429@microsoft.com...
>>
>> "Rock" <rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
>> news:u0riK1r1GHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> What version did you install? There is a Beta 6 version.

>>
>> I don't recommend (not that I am a person of influence) Beta 6 of Java
>> Runtime Environment UNDER Vista. For some reason, with Beta 6 version
>> (or rather Java 6 beta 2 version) I can't seem to open a "File Open
>> Dialog" (Chooser) from my home-spun Java application in Vista. Reverting
>> back to Java 5 runtime 6 or 8, the File Open (Chooser) Dialog works in
>> Vista.
>>
>> I know I probably should report this to Sun, but I haven't looked at the
>> console to see if there was a stack trace yet which I'd probably need if
>> I were to submit something to Sun.
>>
>> -rob
>>

>
>


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Old 09-12-2006   #10 (permalink)
Colin Barnhorst


 
 

Re: Sun Java turns off Aero effects while active

You're welcome.

"Rob Wilkens" <RobWilkens@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:778E73EF-E711-4495-BA34-3AB9DD4D5DC6@microsoft.com...
> Works! Thank you.
>
> -Rob
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:OnMTDNt1GHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Try the latest snapshot from: http://download.java.net/jdk6/binaries/
>>
>> "Rob Wilkens" <RobWilkens@optonline.net> wrote in message
>> news:3996934C-A967-4C60-A1C5-218FF39B0429@microsoft.com...
>>>
>>> "Rock" <rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
>>> news:u0riK1r1GHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> What version did you install? There is a Beta 6 version.
>>>
>>> I don't recommend (not that I am a person of influence) Beta 6 of Java
>>> Runtime Environment UNDER Vista. For some reason, with Beta 6 version
>>> (or rather Java 6 beta 2 version) I can't seem to open a "File Open
>>> Dialog" (Chooser) from my home-spun Java application in Vista.
>>> Reverting back to Java 5 runtime 6 or 8, the File Open (Chooser) Dialog
>>> works in Vista.
>>>
>>> I know I probably should report this to Sun, but I haven't looked at the
>>> console to see if there was a stack trace yet which I'd probably need if
>>> I were to submit something to Sun.
>>>
>>> -rob
>>>

>>
>>

>



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