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| 07-09-2008 | #1 |
| | pre-installed vista home premium Vista Home Premium came pre-installed on an Acer Aspire L3600 I've bought, along with Acer material and some other apps of varying usefulness. I am NOT getting along with this OS at all and am thinking of taking Vista off and installing XP on the PC. But having shelled out hard earned bucks for Vista I'm loathe to bin it for ever, (at least for the time being). Is it possible to use the factory restore facility Acer provide and to copy the necessary Acer material to DVD before uninstalling everything bar Vista; then to copy/burn the OS to an external drive or DVD and reformat the PC for a XP install, the idea of course being to have Vista available just in case I want to do the reverse some time in the future, i.e. reformat and install Vista again? Regards, Bill |
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| 07-09-2008 | #2 |
| | Re: pre-installed vista home premium Bill wrote: (snippage) Quote: > Is it possible to use the factory restore facility Acer provide and to > copy the necessary Acer material to DVD > before uninstalling everything bar Vista; then to copy/burn the OS to an > external drive or DVD and reformat the PC for a XP install, the idea of > course being to have Vista available just in case I want to do the reverse > some time in the future, i.e. reformat and install Vista again? I've seen in my shop have this. Refer to the manual that came with your computer, or Acer's website, or contact Acer tech support. If you really think your Acer is different and doesn't have the ability to create recovery DVDs, contact Acer and order the physical disks. This normally is quite inexpensive. You should do the above in any case. As to whether you can put XP on this machine, see the general information below: 1. Go to the OEM's website and look for XP drivers for your specific model computer. If there are no XP drivers, then you can't install XP. End of story. If there are drivers, download them and store on a CD-R or USB thumbdrive; you'll need them after you install XP. 2. Check with the OEM - either from their tech support website or by calling them - to see if you will void your warranty if you do this. If you will void the warranty, you make the decision. 3. If the OEM does support XP on the machine, call them and see if you can have downgrade rights and have them send you an XP restore disk. This will be far the easiest and best way of getting XP on the machine. 4. If XP is supported on the machine but the OEM doesn't have an XP restore disk for you, understand that you'll need to purchase a retail copy of XP from your favorite online or brick/mortar store. 5. Also understand that you will need to do a clean install of XP so if you have any data you want, back it up first. 6. If none of the above is applicable to you because you can't run XP on that machine (see Item #1 above), return the computer and purchase one running XP instead. http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html - Clean Install How-To http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...alling_Windows - What you will need on-hand Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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| 07-09-2008 | #3 |
| | Re: pre-installed vista home premium Not sure I really understand about OEM. Surely any PC can have its hard drive completely reformatted and then have an OS installed? I currently have a spare full retail Win XP sitting in its box (and I swear it glows smugly at me as I discover more and more frustrations of using Vista). Can I not do this AND have Vista safely available on a dvd or external drive so that should I wish to reverse the process at some late date I can again reformat and then install Vista? I have made backups of Acer's restore utility as they suggest but my understanding was that the pre-installed Vista is kept permanently on the hard drive and that running the restore utility is the equivalent to a glorified restore point operation, every piece of software, including the OS, going back to the factory fresh condition. The OS never moves from the HD to the backup does it? If that's correct, a reformat would wipe Vista permanently - which is not the plan! Regards, Bill. |
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| 07-10-2008 | #4 |
| | Re: pre-installed vista home premium Bill wrote: Colin has given you the advice you need. I just wanted to add a few things. Quote: > Not sure I really understand about OEM. Surely any PC can have its hard > drive completely reformatted and then have an OS installed? that computer, you won't have the use of that hardware. Hence my suggestion to make sure drivers for your desired OS exist *first*. Colin went the extra mile and found that XP drivers do exist for you. They don't exist for every model computer that comes with Vista, and that's why I warn about looking before you leap. Quote: > I currently > have a spare full retail Win XP sitting in its box (and I swear it glows > smugly at me as I discover more and more frustrations of using Vista). > Can I not do this AND have Vista safely available on a dvd or external > drive so that should I wish to reverse the process at some late date I can > again reformat and then install Vista. can restore to factory condition. Or use Acronis True Image and image your entire drive, storing the image on an external hard drive. Regularly imaging your system is A Good Thing in any case. Quote: > I have made backups of Acer's restore utility as they suggest but my > understanding was that the pre-installed Vista is kept permanently on the > hard drive and that running the restore utility is the equivalent to a > glorified restore point operation, every piece of software, including the > OS, going back to the factory fresh condition. The OS never moves from > the > HD to the backup does it? If that's correct, a reformat would wipe Vista > permanently - which is not the plan! (Original Equipment Manufacturer) does things differently. I've run into machines where not having a special partition on the hard drive makes restoration with physical media fail. OTOH, with most OEM machines making the physical restore disks are all you need. After all, if you have to replace the hard drive there will be nothing on the new one at all. So I stand by what I told you before: check with Acer about 1) your warranty; 2) downgrade rights; 3) and get your drivers first. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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