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Old 07-21-2008   #1 (permalink)
PhilB


 
 

Upgrading Motherboard and processor

Hi all
I am about to upgrade my motherboard and processor,i would just like
to know what effects this will have on my O/S (Vista Home Premium SP1).Will i
have to reinstall everything?Can i just plug everything back in (HDDs
Graphics cards Sound card etc) and just carry on as if nothing has
happened?or are there more sinister things lurking that may bite me.
Any help will be much appreciated
Phil

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Old 07-21-2008   #2 (permalink)
Mick Murphy


 
 

RE: Upgrading Motherboard and processor

Is it OEM or Retail vista disk?
With OEM, you are not supposed to Upgrade hardware, just replace, BUT.
With Retail disk, you can upgrade hardware.

Chances are that you will have to do a reinstall.
Your existing OS will think it is a new computer; which it really is!!!
Motherboard and CPU is the heart of the computer!

At the very least, you will have to re-activatre.
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"PhilB" wrote:
Quote:

> Hi all
> I am about to upgrade my motherboard and processor,i would just like
> to know what effects this will have on my O/S (Vista Home Premium SP1).Will i
> have to reinstall everything?Can i just plug everything back in (HDDs
> Graphics cards Sound card etc) and just carry on as if nothing has
> happened?or are there more sinister things lurking that may bite me.
> Any help will be much appreciated
> Phil
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Old 07-21-2008   #3 (permalink)
DL


 
 

Re: Upgrading Motherboard and processor

If its OEM and its locked to origonal hardware you wont be able to.

"PhilB" <PhilB@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:0E28ECCC-4B6C-4853-BB2F-3214A099D57C@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi all
> I am about to upgrade my motherboard and processor,i would just like
> to know what effects this will have on my O/S (Vista Home Premium
> SP1).Will i
> have to reinstall everything?Can i just plug everything back in (HDDs
> Graphics cards Sound card etc) and just carry on as if nothing has
> happened?or are there more sinister things lurking that may bite me.
> Any help will be much appreciated
> Phil

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Old 07-21-2008   #4 (permalink)
Mick Murphy


 
 

Re: Upgrading Motherboard and processor

There are 2 sorts of OEM. A lot of confusion about this!
Dell OEM includes their crap, and ties it to that motherboard.
If YOU buy an OEM vista disk, that is different from Dell's installed
garbage.
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"DL" wrote:
Quote:

> If its OEM and its locked to origonal hardware you wont be able to.
>
> "PhilB" <PhilB@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:0E28ECCC-4B6C-4853-BB2F-3214A099D57C@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Hi all
> > I am about to upgrade my motherboard and processor,i would just like
> > to know what effects this will have on my O/S (Vista Home Premium
> > SP1).Will i
> > have to reinstall everything?Can i just plug everything back in (HDDs
> > Graphics cards Sound card etc) and just carry on as if nothing has
> > happened?or are there more sinister things lurking that may bite me.
> > Any help will be much appreciated
> > Phil
>
>
>
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Old 07-21-2008   #5 (permalink)
Ken Blake, MVP


 
 

Re: Upgrading Motherboard and processor

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:19:01 -0700, Mick Murphy
<MickMurphy@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

> Is it OEM or Retail vista disk?
> With OEM, you are not supposed to Upgrade hardware, just replace,

That's not correct. The OEM license permanently ties that copy to
Vista to the original computer it's installed on. There is *no*
restriction on upgrading hardware.

However, if it's one of the OEM copies that came with a computer sold
by a major manufacturer, it's probably BIOS-locked to the original
motherboard and a different one won't work with it.

Quote:

> BUT.
> With Retail disk, you can upgrade hardware.
>
> Chances are that you will have to do a reinstall.
> Your existing OS will think it is a new computer; which it really is!!!
> Motherboard and CPU is the heart of the computer!
>
> At the very least, you will have to re-activatre.
> --
> Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia
>
>
> "PhilB" wrote:
>
Quote:

> > Hi all
> > I am about to upgrade my motherboard and processor,i would just like
> > to know what effects this will have on my O/S (Vista Home Premium SP1).Will i
> > have to reinstall everything?Can i just plug everything back in (HDDs
> > Graphics cards Sound card etc) and just carry on as if nothing has
> > happened?or are there more sinister things lurking that may bite me.
> > Any help will be much appreciated
> > Phil
--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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Old 07-21-2008   #6 (permalink)
John Whitworth


 
 

Re: Upgrading Motherboard and processor


"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:66B1EA15-0F37-47A1-BE25-715534196326@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Is it OEM or Retail vista disk?
> With OEM, you are not supposed to Upgrade hardware, just replace, BUT.
> With Retail disk, you can upgrade hardware.
>
> Chances are that you will have to do a reinstall.
> Your existing OS will think it is a new computer; which it really is!!!
> Motherboard and CPU is the heart of the computer!
>
Depends just how different the hardware is. I moved from an MSI 975X-based
motherboard to a Gigabyte X48-based one. Vista just got on and upgraded
everything with the manufacturer's install CD. I upgraded the processor a
few weeks later from a Core 2 Duo to a Core 2 Quad. No problems whatsoever.

If, however, you are moving from AMD to Intel or vice-versa, expect more
trouble than that! ;-)

JW

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Old 07-21-2008   #7 (permalink)
Colin Barnhorst


 
 

Re: Upgrading Motherboard and processor

"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> There are 2 sorts of OEM. A lot of confusion about this!
> Dell OEM includes their crap, and ties it to that motherboard.
> If YOU buy an OEM vista disk, that is different from Dell's installed
> garbage.
> --
> Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia
>
Correct. The system builder OEM packs come with a straight Vista dvd. Only
the hologramming is different. You can even do upgrades in place with them.
They accept OEM, upgrade, and standard product keys interchangeably.

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Old 07-21-2008   #8 (permalink)
Chipmunk


 
 

Re: Upgrading Motherboard and processor

PhilB wrote:
Quote:

> Hi all
> I am about to upgrade my motherboard and processor,i would just like
> to know what effects this will have on my O/S (Vista Home Premium SP1).Will i
> have to reinstall everything?Can i just plug everything back in (HDDs
> Graphics cards Sound card etc) and just carry on as if nothing has
> happened?or are there more sinister things lurking that may bite me.
> Any help will be much appreciated
> Phil
You can try this: run windows on the old hardware, uninstall all the
hardware and hardware drivers from windows that you intend to change. Eg
adding a new gfx card then go to the device manager and uninstall the
old grfx card and drivers, refuse any reboot requests shutdown, install
the new gfx card and reboot. Do the same for all the hardware you are
replacing, even the motherboard if your fitting a new one. It's not
guaranteed to work but if it does it could save you a lot of time and
effort. I have had this method work in some cases but it seems to depend
on what hardware you are updating, if your moving from IDE to SATA or 32
to 64 bit then this unlikely to work. Note: you may need to boot into
safe mode to do the uninstalls and if you reboot after vista will
reinstall most if not every thing from its backup cache so you'll have
to start over.
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Old 07-21-2008   #9 (permalink)
John Whitworth


 
 

Re: Upgrading Motherboard and processor


"Chipmunk" <rtown@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> PhilB wrote:
Quote:

>> Hi all
>> I am about to upgrade my motherboard and processor,i would just
>> like to know what effects this will have on my O/S (Vista Home Premium
>> SP1).Will i have to reinstall everything?Can i just plug everything back
>> in (HDDs Graphics cards Sound card etc) and just carry on as if nothing
>> has happened?or are there more sinister things lurking that may bite me.
>> Any help will be much appreciated
>> Phil
>
> You can try this: run windows on the old hardware, uninstall all the
> hardware and hardware drivers from windows that you intend to change.
Only problem with that method is that it is so difficult to actually
identify just which devices belong to the motherboard. There are all manner
of PCI, USB, sound and network drivers involved nowadays.

JW

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Old 07-21-2008   #10 (permalink)
Chipmunk


 
 

Re: Upgrading Motherboard and processor

John Whitworth wrote:
Quote:

>
> "Chipmunk" <rtown@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:qT8hk.30867$E41.8578@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> PhilB wrote:
Quote:

>>> Hi all
>>> I am about to upgrade my motherboard and processor,i would just
>>> like to know what effects this will have on my O/S (Vista Home
>>> Premium SP1).Will i have to reinstall everything?Can i just plug
>>> everything back in (HDDs Graphics cards Sound card etc) and just
>>> carry on as if nothing has happened?or are there more sinister things
>>> lurking that may bite me.
>>> Any help will be much appreciated
>>> Phil
>>
>> You can try this: run windows on the old hardware, uninstall all the
>> hardware and hardware drivers from windows that you intend to change.
>
> Only problem with that method is that it is so difficult to actually
> identify just which devices belong to the motherboard. There are all
> manner of PCI, USB, sound and network drivers involved nowadays.
>
Agreed, more likely to fail if the new motherboard is by a different
manufacturer or entirely different chipset too, still maybe worth a try
for the time it would take verses the time it might save.

BTW works fine with Linux distros i've tried, just drop the drive in
another machine and boot, only ever needed to update the GFX drivers.
One exception; upgrading from 32bit to 64 bit.
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