Vista - How well does the Windows Vista Firewall work?

07-27-2008

James, that is what I am saying about bloated Programs like WOCare, norton,
etc.

They saw there was money to be made, and wanted to be everything to everybody!
But, they failed on all fronts!
That is why you are better off with smaller, specialised Programs to do each
job.
A prime example is the spyware program you got; McAfee didn't stop it!
You will also fund if you buy those removal programs, they contain MORE
spyware!
A vicious circle.
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia

"Flyerfan27" wrote:

Quote:

> Hello Andy,
>
> Thank you for replying to my question and for your answer. I just want to
> know if I am protected well enough. I was using McAfee and still received
> spyware from another antivirus program. I received a warning about a spyware
> infection then out of nowhere a spyware program popped up to help me. The
> spyware that popped up would not let me do anything with internet explorer
> unless I downloaded their software. I just kept going around in a vicious
> circle trying to get internet explorer working again. That only led me to a
> point where I couldn't even get IE to open. I would get a message and it
> would just shutdown. I would throw my laptop in the trash before I would by
> software from a company that caused me the problem in the first place. Who do
> they think they are getting over on; idiots? Their way of trying to sell
> their product cost me 2 days of time I don't have. I ended up having to do a
> clean re-install. It is a good thing I had my computer backed up, but the
> backup was a month old. So it cost me some time to get straightened out. This
> is why I want to know if I am protected now.
>
> Thanks again,
> James
>
>
> "HappyAndyK" wrote:
>

Quote:

> >
> > Vista firewall works well, and you dont have to go in for a 3rd party fw
> > !
> >
> >
> > --
> > HappyAndyK
> >
> > www.WinVistaClub.com
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > HappyAndyK's Profile: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/member.php?userid=4
> > View this thread: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17476
> >
> >

07-27-2008

On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:15:00 -0700, Flyerfan27 wrote:

Quote:

> Hello,
>
> I recently removed McAfee form my laptop with Vista Home Premium OP. I
> installed the free version of AVG Antivirus for virus protection in McAfee's
> place. I was going to look for a firewall program too, but saw that the Vista
> built in Windows Firewall took over that job. My question is do these 2
> programs give me enough protection for my laptop? Can I trust these 2
> programs to protect my desktop computer? My desktop is hard wired to my
> router and I have Verizon Fios cable for my internet provider. My desktop is
> always on and always connected to the internet. I want to make sure I will
> have enough protection before I make any changes to my desktop. I noticed the
> Windows Firewall says you should only have one firewall running so I know I
> can't add anything to help with that protection.
>
> All and any comments are welcome. Thank you in advance for your replies!

You are not going to find anything better than the Vista FW and Vista in
itself due to the advanced features the FW and Vista are using.

Managing the Windows Vista Firewall
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/m.../cc510323.aspx

Vista Firewall Control (Free versions available).
Protects your applications from undesirable network incoming and outgoing
activity, controls applications internet access.
http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/
The free version may be all you need, check the comparisons under
the "Download and Buy" link.

There are many good free AV applications available, and almost everyone has
his favorite. Most of the users are emotionally attached to their av
application and will have excellent reasons for not recommending any other
brand.
The most important thing here is that all of the available choices listed
here are better in some respects than in others, and which choice is better
for *you* depends on what you do, how you work, and which features you use.
The way you use your PC is different from others.
Have a look at this:
http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm
and be guided accordingly.
Good info can be obtained here:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/page.php?id=20
and here:
http://www.av-comparatives.org/

If the above is too deluging consider this:-
Real-time AV applications - for viral malware.
Do not utilize more than one (1) real-time anti-virus scanning engine!
Disable the e-mail scanning function during installation (Custom
Installation on some AV apps.) as it provides no additional protection.

Why You Don't Need Your Anti-Virus Program to Scan Your E-Mail
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
Viral Irony: The Most Common Cause of Corruption.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Avira AntiVir® Personal - FREE Antivirus
http://www.free-av.com/
You may wish to consider removing the 'AntiVir Nagscreen'
http://www.elitekiller.com/files/dis...ntivir_nag.htm
or
Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition
It includes ANTI-SPYWARE protection, certified by the West Coast Labs
Checkmark process, and ANTI-ROOTKIT DETECTION based on the best-in class
GMER technology.
http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
(Choose Custom Installation and under Resident
Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange.)
or
AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition
http://free.grisoft.com/
(Choose custom install and untick the email scanner plugin.)
or
ESET NOD32 Antivirus - Not Free
http://www.eset.com/
or
Kaspersky® Anti-Virus 7.0 - Not Free
http://www.kaspersky.com/homeuser

and (optional but highly recommendable)

On-demand AV applications.
(add them to your arsenal and use them as a "second opinion" av scanner).
David H. Lipman's MULTI_AV Tool
http://www.pctipp.ch/ds/28400/28470/Multi_AV.exe
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
English:
http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/...irus-for-free/
Additional Instructions:
http://pcdid.com/Multi_AV.htm
---and/or---
Kaspersky's AVPTool
http://downloads5.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/AVPTool/
There's no updating involved since the scanning engine is updated
several times a day and you simply download the updated scanner whenever
you want to do a scan.

Dr.Web CureIt!® Utility - FREE
http://www.freedrweb.com/cureit/

Malwarebytes© Corporation - Anti-Malware
http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam/program/mbam-setup.exe
Note: It is Free for private use. Just download (do NOT buy) and install.

A-S applications - for non-viral malware.
The effectiveness of an individual A-S scanners can be wide-ranging and
oftentimes a collection of scanners is best. There isn't one software that
cleans and immunizes you against everything. That's why you need multiple
products to do the job i.e. overlap their coverage - one may catch what
another may miss, (grab'em all).

SuperAntispyware - Free
http://www.superantispyware.com/supe...freevspro.html
and
Ad-Aware 2007 - Free
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php
http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html
and
Spybot Search & Destroy - Free
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html
and
Windows Defender - Free (build-in in Vista)
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx
WD monitors the start-registry and hooks registers/files to prevent spyware
and worms to install to the OS.
Interesting reading:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136195/article.html
"...Windows Defender did excel in behavior-based protection, which detects
changes to key areas of the system without having to know anything about
the actual threat."

A clarification on the terminology: the word "malware" is short for
"malicious software." Most Anti-Virus applications detect many types of
malware such as viruses, worms, trojans, etc.
What AV applications usually don't detect is "non-viral" malware, and the
term "non-viral malware" is normally used to refer to things like spyware
and adware.

Many experts suggest that Windows Live One Care is on the bottom of the
list as far as finding virus\malware\trojan.

Good luck

07-27-2008

I found a program online to test how well your firewall works:
'GRC*|*LeakTest -- Firewall Leakage Tester**'
(http://www.grc.com/lt/leaktest.htm)

I can't comment on the reliability of the program but for me, the
windows firewall needs to be on its maximum setting to work, so I use
Kaspersky's firewall which is described as working aggresively and
properly.

07-27-2008

I use Eset's Smart Security, winpatrol, spyware blaster and
Superantispyware.
Only Eset will cost you money but its well worth it. Just be sure to setup
the firewall for 2 way protection.
If you want automatic updates with the other programs, it'll cost you but
not much.

"Flyerfan27" <Flyerfan27@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:AF88953C-AC42-4BD6-A518-74553277FEE0@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Hello,
>
> I recently removed McAfee form my laptop with Vista Home Premium OP. I
> installed the free version of AVG Antivirus for virus protection in
> McAfee's
> place. I was going to look for a firewall program too, but saw that the
> Vista
> built in Windows Firewall took over that job. My question is do these 2
> programs give me enough protection for my laptop? Can I trust these 2
> programs to protect my desktop computer? My desktop is hard wired to my
> router and I have Verizon Fios cable for my internet provider. My desktop
> is
> always on and always connected to the internet. I want to make sure I will
> have enough protection before I make any changes to my desktop. I noticed
> the
> Windows Firewall says you should only have one firewall running so I know
> I
> can't add anything to help with that protection.
>
> All and any comments are welcome. Thank you in advance for your replies!
>
> Best regard,
> James

07-27-2008

There hasn't yet been such a decent Suite yet that covers all the bases, and
Microsoft is the last place I'd go for one.

Your post almost qualifies as SPAM.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23S0s8l57IHA.4112@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Install a good, comprehensive, security program,
> such as Windows OneCare, and you'll not have to
> worry about those issues. You can try it FREE
> for ninety (90) days. This is a brand new version
> and includes a very robust firewall.
> http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/default.htm
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience -
> Windows Vista Enthusiast
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Flyerfan27" <Flyerfan27@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:AF88953C-AC42-4BD6-A518-74553277FEE0@xxxxxx
> Hello,
>
> I recently removed McAfee form my laptop with Vista Home Premium OP. I
> installed the free version of AVG Antivirus for virus protection in
> McAfee's
> place. I was going to look for a firewall program too, but saw that the
> Vista
> built in Windows Firewall took over that job. My question is do these 2
> programs give me enough protection for my laptop? Can I trust these 2
> programs to protect my desktop computer? My desktop is hard wired to my
> router and I have Verizon Fios cable for my internet provider. My desktop
> is
> always on and always connected to the internet. I want to make sure I will
> have enough protection before I make any changes to my desktop. I noticed
> the
> Windows Firewall says you should only have one firewall running so I know
> I
> can't add anything to help with that protection.
>
> All and any comments are welcome. Thank you in advance for your replies!
>
> Best regard,
> James

07-27-2008

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:09:41 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:

Quote:

>Every router I've ever installed that has a firewall had the firewall
>enabled by default. Not saying every single one is that way, but every one
>I've ever installed out of the package has had the firewall enabled. And I'm
>not talking about NAT, which, of course, is also almost always enabled by
>default. Can you please provide a list of those routers which do not have
>the firewall and/or NAT enabled by default? I'd like to make sure that none
>of the routers I'm responsible for fall into the category. I mean, I've been
>into most of them to open a few ports, so I know those ones are already
>working, but if you had a list of devices known that fulfill your claim
>(like maybe it's one of the setup steps in the manual?), I'd love to have a
>copy.
>
>Making broad statements about things of which you have only minimal
>knowledge is one of the things that makes you so despised in these groups.
>(Is there anything at all in this world about which you have more than a
>modicum of knowledge? I don't even think you know much about Linux.) I'm a
>good researcher. Want me to look up a psychiatric specialist for you so you
>can work out why it is you can't help but be wrong all the time and can't
>help yourself broadcasting it to the world? Kinda sick, don't you think?

Plastering MVP after your name makes you a expert?

Well a lot of dopes suffer from that mental handicap as anyone reading
this group on a regular basis is well aware.

ROTFLMAO!

07-27-2008

Ringmaster wrote:

Quote:

> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:09:41 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
>

Quote:

>> Every router I've ever installed that has a firewall had the firewall
>> enabled by default. Not saying every single one is that way, but every one
>> I've ever installed out of the package has had the firewall enabled. And I'm
>> not talking about NAT, which, of course, is also almost always enabled by
>> default. Can you please provide a list of those routers which do not have
>> the firewall and/or NAT enabled by default? I'd like to make sure that none
>> of the routers I'm responsible for fall into the category. I mean, I've been
>> into most of them to open a few ports, so I know those ones are already
>> working, but if you had a list of devices known that fulfill your claim
>> (like maybe it's one of the setup steps in the manual?), I'd love to have a
>> copy.
>>
>> Making broad statements about things of which you have only minimal
>> knowledge is one of the things that makes you so despised in these groups.
>> (Is there anything at all in this world about which you have more than a
>> modicum of knowledge? I don't even think you know much about Linux.) I'm a
>> good researcher. Want me to look up a psychiatric specialist for you so you
>> can work out why it is you can't help but be wrong all the time and can't
>> help yourself broadcasting it to the world? Kinda sick, don't you think?

>
> Plastering MVP after your name makes you a expert?
>
> Well a lot of dopes suffer from that mental handicap as anyone reading
> this group on a regular basis is well aware.
>
> ROTFLMAO!

My hubby 'Ringmaster' enjoys insulting people who are smarter than he
is. His psychiatrist is changing his medication next week to treat his
mental illness. We all hope for the best!

07-27-2008

Btman;73157 Wrote:

Quote:

> I found a program online to test how well your firewall works:
> 'GRC*|*LeakTest -- Firewall Leakage Tester**'
> ('GRC|LeakTest -- Firewall Leakage Tester'
> (http://www.grc.com/lt/leaktest.htm))
>
> I can't comment on the reliability of the program but for me, the
> windows firewall needs to be on its maximum setting to work, so I use
> Kaspersky's firewall which is described as working aggresively and
> properly.

Do not trust on "Leak test" with ur Windows FW. It will not detect the
threat and actually that is a virus in a testing back ground. Stopped by
CA and threat fire

Avast is a good free AV for home users followed by AVG free and Anvir
Bitdefender, Kaspersky and CA are the top commercial AV
Webroot Spysweeper is the Ultimate spy,ad,malware destroyer.
Unbeatable. But not free
Spyware terminator is also good one partially act as firewall too. But
some times sytem slows down
Threat fire is a good av scanner and can be used together with any
other AV, so ur machine is double protected.
I have not found NOD32 interactive. I had used it for one month and
never find any threat or pop up. I am not sure about that
Kaspersky have inbuilt intrusion method which act as FW. So KIS users
can disable the other FW
Stand alone FW comodo is the number one together with Zonealarm.
Both are happy with mre CPU usage.
A good AV(Avast prefer), webroot spysweeper, windows defender and
windows FW is a good combination, in addition ur system is capable, use
spyware terminator or Threat fire

Spyware blaster may be a bloatware, complete uninstallation is not
possible. Ur security center displays that as available spyware after
uninstallation. Do not know whether bugs of windows or spyware blaster

Spybot search and destroy is a good registry protector same for spyware
terminator, but I prefer disable services of remote registry

--
phoenix_abhi

'Technical Development and INDIA'
(http://www.techtree.com/techtree/jsp/home.jsp)

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07-27-2008

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 05:44:30 -0500, Btman wrote:

Quote:

> I found a program online to test how well your firewall works:
> 'GRC*|*LeakTest -- Firewall Leakage Tester**'
> (http://www.grc.com/lt/leaktest.htm)

Firewall LeakTesting.
Excerpts:
Leo Laporte: "So the leaktest is kind of pointless."
Steve Gibson: "Well,yes,...
Leo: "So are you saying that there's no point in doing a leaktest anymore?"
Steve: "Well, it's why I have not taken the trouble to update mine, because
you..."
Leo: "You can't test enough".
Steve: "Well, yeah.
Leo: "Right. Very interesting stuff. I guess that - my sense is, if you
can't test for leaks, a software-based firewall is kind of essentially
worthless."

Read and/or listen to the entire conversation here:
http://www.grc.com/sn/SN-105.htm

Quote:

> I can't comment on the reliability of the program but for me, the
> windows firewall needs to be on its maximum setting to work,

For the average homeuser, the Windows Firewall in XP does a fantastic job
at its core mission and is really all you need if you have an 'real-time'
anti-virus program, [another firewall on your router or] other edge
protection like SeconfigXP and practise safe-hex.
The windows firewall deals with inbound protection and therefore does not
give you a false sense of security. Best of all, it doesn't implement lots
of nonsense like pretending that outbound traffic needs to be monitored.

Quote:

> so I use Kaspersky's firewall which is described as working aggresively
> and properly.

Define "properly".

07-28-2008

http://24-7-solutions.net/reviews/ha...-firewall.html

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"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:ezWqX0N8IHA.4140@xxxxxx

Quote:

> He's talking about the *software* firewall sitting on top of the router's
> OS which is installed on/in its hardware. I still don't understand what a
> "hardware firewall" is. I don't think there is any such thing.
>
> Anyway, that's what he's talking about, as you would know if you'd read
> the manual, too.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com

07-27-2008	#11 (permalink)
Mick Murphy n/a posts	Re: How well does the Windows Vista Firewall work? James, that is what I am saying about bloated Programs like WOCare, norton, etc. They saw there was money to be made, and wanted to be everything to everybody! But, they failed on all fronts! That is why you are better off with smaller, specialised Programs to do each job. A prime example is the spyware program you got; McAfee didn't stop it! You will also fund if you buy those removal programs, they contain MORE spyware! A vicious circle. -- Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia "Flyerfan27" wrote: Quote: > Hello Andy, > > Thank you for replying to my question and for your answer. I just want to > know if I am protected well enough. I was using McAfee and still received > spyware from another antivirus program. I received a warning about a spyware > infection then out of nowhere a spyware program popped up to help me. The > spyware that popped up would not let me do anything with internet explorer > unless I downloaded their software. I just kept going around in a vicious > circle trying to get internet explorer working again. That only led me to a > point where I couldn't even get IE to open. I would get a message and it > would just shutdown. I would throw my laptop in the trash before I would by > software from a company that caused me the problem in the first place. Who do > they think they are getting over on; idiots? Their way of trying to sell > their product cost me 2 days of time I don't have. I ended up having to do a > clean re-install. It is a good thing I had my computer backed up, but the > backup was a month old. So it cost me some time to get straightened out. This > is why I want to know if I am protected now. > > Thanks again, > James > > > "HappyAndyK" wrote: > Quote: > > > > Vista firewall works well, and you dont have to go in for a 3rd party fw > > ! > > > > > > -- > > HappyAndyK > > > > www.WinVistaClub.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > HappyAndyK's Profile: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/member.php?userid=4 > > View this thread: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17476 > > > >
My System Specs

07-27-2008	#12 (permalink)
Kayman n/a posts	Re: How well does the Windows Vista Firewall work? On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:15:00 -0700, Flyerfan27 wrote: Quote: > Hello, > > I recently removed McAfee form my laptop with Vista Home Premium OP. I > installed the free version of AVG Antivirus for virus protection in McAfee's > place. I was going to look for a firewall program too, but saw that the Vista > built in Windows Firewall took over that job. My question is do these 2 > programs give me enough protection for my laptop? Can I trust these 2 > programs to protect my desktop computer? My desktop is hard wired to my > router and I have Verizon Fios cable for my internet provider. My desktop is > always on and always connected to the internet. I want to make sure I will > have enough protection before I make any changes to my desktop. I noticed the > Windows Firewall says you should only have one firewall running so I know I > can't add anything to help with that protection. > > All and any comments are welcome. Thank you in advance for your replies! You are not going to find anything better than the Vista FW and Vista in itself due to the advanced features the FW and Vista are using. Managing the Windows Vista Firewall http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/m.../cc510323.aspx Vista Firewall Control (Free versions available). Protects your applications from undesirable network incoming and outgoing activity, controls applications internet access. http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/ The free version may be all you need, check the comparisons under the "Download and Buy" link. There are many good free AV applications available, and almost everyone has his favorite. Most of the users are emotionally attached to their av application and will have excellent reasons for not recommending any other brand. The most important thing here is that all of the available choices listed here are better in some respects than in others, and which choice is better for you depends on what you do, how you work, and which features you use. The way you use your PC is different from others. Have a look at this: http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm and be guided accordingly. Good info can be obtained here: http://www.majorgeeks.com/page.php?id=20 and here: http://www.av-comparatives.org/ If the above is too deluging consider this:- Real-time AV applications - for viral malware. Do not utilize more than one (1) real-time anti-virus scanning engine! Disable the e-mail scanning function during installation (Custom Installation on some AV apps.) as it provides no additional protection. Why You Don't Need Your Anti-Virus Program to Scan Your E-Mail http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm Viral Irony: The Most Common Cause of Corruption. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx Avira AntiVir® Personal - FREE Antivirus http://www.free-av.com/ You may wish to consider removing the 'AntiVir Nagscreen' http://www.elitekiller.com/files/dis...ntivir_nag.htm or Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition It includes ANTI-SPYWARE protection, certified by the West Coast Labs Checkmark process, and ANTI-ROOTKIT DETECTION based on the best-in class GMER technology. http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html (Choose Custom Installation and under Resident Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange.) or AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition http://free.grisoft.com/ (Choose custom install and untick the email scanner plugin.) or ESET NOD32 Antivirus - Not Free http://www.eset.com/ or Kaspersky® Anti-Virus 7.0 - Not Free http://www.kaspersky.com/homeuser and (optional but highly recommendable) On-demand AV applications. (add them to your arsenal and use them as a "second opinion" av scanner). David H. Lipman's MULTI_AV Tool http://www.pctipp.ch/ds/28400/28470/Multi_AV.exe http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp English: http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/...irus-for-free/ Additional Instructions: http://pcdid.com/Multi_AV.htm ---and/or--- Kaspersky's AVPTool http://downloads5.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/AVPTool/ There's no updating involved since the scanning engine is updated several times a day and you simply download the updated scanner whenever you want to do a scan. Dr.Web CureIt!® Utility - FREE http://www.freedrweb.com/cureit/ Malwarebytes© Corporation - Anti-Malware http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam/program/mbam-setup.exe Note: It is Free for private use. Just download (do NOT buy) and install. A-S applications - for non-viral malware. The effectiveness of an individual A-S scanners can be wide-ranging and oftentimes a collection of scanners is best. There isn't one software that cleans and immunizes you against everything. That's why you need multiple products to do the job i.e. overlap their coverage - one may catch what another may miss, (grab'em all). SuperAntispyware - Free http://www.superantispyware.com/supe...freevspro.html and Ad-Aware 2007 - Free http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html and Spybot Search & Destroy - Free http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html and Windows Defender - Free (build-in in Vista) http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx WD monitors the start-registry and hooks registers/files to prevent spyware and worms to install to the OS. Interesting reading: http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136195/article.html "...Windows Defender did excel in behavior-based protection, which detects changes to key areas of the system without having to know anything about the actual threat." A clarification on the terminology: the word "malware" is short for "malicious software." Most Anti-Virus applications detect many types of malware such as viruses, worms, trojans, etc. What AV applications usually don't detect is "non-viral" malware, and the term "non-viral malware" is normally used to refer to things like spyware and adware. Many experts suggest that Windows Live One Care is on the bottom of the list as far as finding virus\malware\trojan. Good luck
My System Specs

07-27-2008	#13 (permalink)
Btman n/a posts	Re: How well does the Windows Vista Firewall work? I found a program online to test how well your firewall works: 'GRC\|LeakTest -- Firewall Leakage Tester**' (http://www.grc.com/lt/leaktest.htm) I can't comment on the reliability of the program but for me, the windows firewall needs to be on its maximum setting to work, so I use Kaspersky's firewall which is described as working aggresively and properly.
My System Specs

07-27-2008	#14 (permalink)
Ryan Hayward n/a posts	Re: How well does the Windows Vista Firewall work? I use Eset's Smart Security, winpatrol, spyware blaster and Superantispyware. Only Eset will cost you money but its well worth it. Just be sure to setup the firewall for 2 way protection. If you want automatic updates with the other programs, it'll cost you but not much. "Flyerfan27" <Flyerfan27@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:AF88953C-AC42-4BD6-A518-74553277FEE0@xxxxxx Quote: > Hello, > > I recently removed McAfee form my laptop with Vista Home Premium OP. I > installed the free version of AVG Antivirus for virus protection in > McAfee's > place. I was going to look for a firewall program too, but saw that the > Vista > built in Windows Firewall took over that job. My question is do these 2 > programs give me enough protection for my laptop? Can I trust these 2 > programs to protect my desktop computer? My desktop is hard wired to my > router and I have Verizon Fios cable for my internet provider. My desktop > is > always on and always connected to the internet. I want to make sure I will > have enough protection before I make any changes to my desktop. I noticed > the > Windows Firewall says you should only have one firewall running so I know > I > can't add anything to help with that protection. > > All and any comments are welcome. Thank you in advance for your replies! > > Best regard, > James
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07-27-2008	#15 (permalink)
Gary S. Terhune n/a posts	Re: How well does the Windows Vista Firewall work? There hasn't yet been such a decent Suite yet that covers all the bases, and Microsoft is the last place I'd go for one. Your post almost qualifies as SPAM. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23S0s8l57IHA.4112@xxxxxx Quote: > Install a good, comprehensive, security program, > such as Windows OneCare, and you'll not have to > worry about those issues. You can try it FREE > for ninety (90) days. This is a brand new version > and includes a very robust firewall. > http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/default.htm > > -- > Carey Frisch > Microsoft MVP > Windows Desktop Experience - > Windows Vista Enthusiast > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > "Flyerfan27" <Flyerfan27@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:AF88953C-AC42-4BD6-A518-74553277FEE0@xxxxxx > Hello, > > I recently removed McAfee form my laptop with Vista Home Premium OP. I > installed the free version of AVG Antivirus for virus protection in > McAfee's > place. I was going to look for a firewall program too, but saw that the > Vista > built in Windows Firewall took over that job. My question is do these 2 > programs give me enough protection for my laptop? Can I trust these 2 > programs to protect my desktop computer? My desktop is hard wired to my > router and I have Verizon Fios cable for my internet provider. My desktop > is > always on and always connected to the internet. I want to make sure I will > have enough protection before I make any changes to my desktop. I noticed > the > Windows Firewall says you should only have one firewall running so I know > I > can't add anything to help with that protection. > > All and any comments are welcome. Thank you in advance for your replies! > > Best regard, > James
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07-27-2008	#16 (permalink)
Ringmaster n/a posts	Re: How well does the Windows Vista Firewall work? On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:09:41 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote: Quote: >Every router I've ever installed that has a firewall had the firewall >enabled by default. Not saying every single one is that way, but every one >I've ever installed out of the package has had the firewall enabled. And I'm >not talking about NAT, which, of course, is also almost always enabled by >default. Can you please provide a list of those routers which do not have >the firewall and/or NAT enabled by default? I'd like to make sure that none >of the routers I'm responsible for fall into the category. I mean, I've been >into most of them to open a few ports, so I know those ones are already >working, but if you had a list of devices known that fulfill your claim >(like maybe it's one of the setup steps in the manual?), I'd love to have a >copy. > >Making broad statements about things of which you have only minimal >knowledge is one of the things that makes you so despised in these groups. >(Is there anything at all in this world about which you have more than a >modicum of knowledge? I don't even think you know much about Linux.) I'm a >good researcher. Want me to look up a psychiatric specialist for you so you >can work out why it is you can't help but be wrong all the time and can't >help yourself broadcasting it to the world? Kinda sick, don't you think? Plastering MVP after your name makes you a expert? Well a lot of dopes suffer from that mental handicap as anyone reading this group on a regular basis is well aware. ROTFLMAO!
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07-27-2008	#17 (permalink)
Mrs. Ringmaster n/a posts	Re: How well does the Windows Vista Firewall work? Ringmaster wrote: Quote: > On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:09:41 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote: > Quote: >> Every router I've ever installed that has a firewall had the firewall >> enabled by default. Not saying every single one is that way, but every one >> I've ever installed out of the package has had the firewall enabled. And I'm >> not talking about NAT, which, of course, is also almost always enabled by >> default. Can you please provide a list of those routers which do not have >> the firewall and/or NAT enabled by default? I'd like to make sure that none >> of the routers I'm responsible for fall into the category. I mean, I've been >> into most of them to open a few ports, so I know those ones are already >> working, but if you had a list of devices known that fulfill your claim >> (like maybe it's one of the setup steps in the manual?), I'd love to have a >> copy. >> >> Making broad statements about things of which you have only minimal >> knowledge is one of the things that makes you so despised in these groups. >> (Is there anything at all in this world about which you have more than a >> modicum of knowledge? I don't even think you know much about Linux.) I'm a >> good researcher. Want me to look up a psychiatric specialist for you so you >> can work out why it is you can't help but be wrong all the time and can't >> help yourself broadcasting it to the world? Kinda sick, don't you think? > > Plastering MVP after your name makes you a expert? > > Well a lot of dopes suffer from that mental handicap as anyone reading > this group on a regular basis is well aware. > > ROTFLMAO! My hubby 'Ringmaster' enjoys insulting people who are smarter than he is. His psychiatrist is changing his medication next week to treat his mental illness. We all hope for the best!
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07-27-2008	#18 (permalink)
phoenix_abhi n/a posts	Re: How well does the Windows Vista Firewall work? Btman;73157 Wrote: Quote: > I found a program online to test how well your firewall works: > 'GRC\|LeakTest -- Firewall Leakage Tester**' > ('GRC\|LeakTest -- Firewall Leakage Tester' > (http://www.grc.com/lt/leaktest.htm)) > > I can't comment on the reliability of the program but for me, the > windows firewall needs to be on its maximum setting to work, so I use > Kaspersky's firewall which is described as working aggresively and > properly. Do not trust on "Leak test" with ur Windows FW. It will not detect the threat and actually that is a virus in a testing back ground. Stopped by CA and threat fire Avast is a good free AV for home users followed by AVG free and Anvir Bitdefender, Kaspersky and CA are the top commercial AV Webroot Spysweeper is the Ultimate spy,ad,malware destroyer. Unbeatable. But not free Spyware terminator is also good one partially act as firewall too. But some times sytem slows down Threat fire is a good av scanner and can be used together with any other AV, so ur machine is double protected. I have not found NOD32 interactive. I had used it for one month and never find any threat or pop up. I am not sure about that Kaspersky have inbuilt intrusion method which act as FW. So KIS users can disable the other FW Stand alone FW comodo is the number one together with Zonealarm. Both are happy with mre CPU usage. A good AV(Avast prefer), webroot spysweeper, windows defender and windows FW is a good combination, in addition ur system is capable, use spyware terminator or Threat fire Spyware blaster may be a bloatware, complete uninstallation is not possible. Ur security center displays that as available spyware after uninstallation. Do not know whether bugs of windows or spyware blaster Spybot search and destroy is a good registry protector same for spyware terminator, but I prefer disable services of remote registry -- phoenix_abhi 'Technical Development and INDIA' (http://www.techtree.com/techtree/jsp/home.jsp) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ phoenix_abhi's Profile: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17476
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07-27-2008	#19 (permalink)
Kayman n/a posts	Re: How well does the Windows Vista Firewall work? On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 05:44:30 -0500, Btman wrote: Quote: > I found a program online to test how well your firewall works: > 'GRC\|LeakTest -- Firewall Leakage Tester**' > (http://www.grc.com/lt/leaktest.htm) Firewall LeakTesting. Excerpts: Leo Laporte: "So the leaktest is kind of pointless." Steve Gibson: "Well,yes,... Leo: "So are you saying that there's no point in doing a leaktest anymore?" Steve: "Well, it's why I have not taken the trouble to update mine, because you..." Leo: "You can't test enough". Steve: "Well, yeah. Leo: "Right. Very interesting stuff. I guess that - my sense is, if you can't test for leaks, a software-based firewall is kind of essentially worthless." Read and/or listen to the entire conversation here: http://www.grc.com/sn/SN-105.htm Quote: > I can't comment on the reliability of the program but for me, the > windows firewall needs to be on its maximum setting to work, For the average homeuser, the Windows Firewall in XP does a fantastic job at its core mission and is really all you need if you have an 'real-time' anti-virus program, [another firewall on your router or] other edge protection like SeconfigXP and practise safe-hex. The windows firewall deals with inbound protection and therefore does not give you a false sense of security. Best of all, it doesn't implement lots of nonsense like pretending that outbound traffic needs to be monitored. Quote: > so I use Kaspersky's firewall which is described as working aggresively > and properly. Define "properly".
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07-28-2008	#20 (permalink)
Not Me n/a posts	Re: How well does the Windows Vista Firewall work? http://24-7-solutions.net/reviews/ha...-firewall.html -- A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here! CarGodZeroOne@xxxxxx Change Alpha to Numeric to reply "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:ezWqX0N8IHA.4140@xxxxxx Quote: > He's talking about the software firewall sitting on top of the router's > OS which is installed on/in its hardware. I still don't understand what a > "hardware firewall" is. I don't think there is any such thing. > > Anyway, that's what he's talking about, as you would know if you'd read > the manual, too. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com
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