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Old 07-28-2008   #21 (permalink)
Gary S. Terhune


 
 

Re: How well does the Windows Vista Firewall work?

Read that article. It describes a piece of hardware that has an OS installed
and on top of that OS is the firewall. It even calls the firewall software.

No, I think people who try to differentiate between hardware and software
firewalls are splitting hairs.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Not Me" <cargodZeroOne@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> http://24-7-solutions.net/reviews/ha...-firewall.html
>
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> A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here!
> CarGodZeroOne@xxxxxx
> Change Alpha to Numeric to reply
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> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
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Quote:

>> He's talking about the *software* firewall sitting on top of the router's
>> OS which is installed on/in its hardware. I still don't understand what a
>> "hardware firewall" is. I don't think there is any such thing.
>>
>> Anyway, that's what he's talking about, as you would know if you'd read
>> the manual, too.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>
>


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Old 07-29-2008   #22 (permalink)
Not Me


 
 

Re: How well does the Windows Vista Firewall work?

I consider a dedicated piece of equipment, even though it uses software,
that filters content on the network and controls access to be a hardware
firewall.
The ones I use on the LAN even say Firewall on the equipment.
Software firewalls may have a place, but I don't think they are as secure.

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Read that article. It describes a piece of hardware that has an OS
> installed and on top of that OS is the firewall. It even calls the
> firewall software.
>
> No, I think people who try to differentiate between hardware and software
> firewalls are splitting hairs.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "Not Me" <cargodZeroOne@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:O1ZDIPR8IHA.4820@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> http://24-7-solutions.net/reviews/ha...-firewall.html
>>
>> --
>> A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here!
>> CarGodZeroOne@xxxxxx
>> Change Alpha to Numeric to reply
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:ezWqX0N8IHA.4140@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> He's talking about the *software* firewall sitting on top of the
>>> router's OS which is installed on/in its hardware. I still don't
>>> understand what a "hardware firewall" is. I don't think there is any
>>> such thing.
>>>
>>> Anyway, that's what he's talking about, as you would know if you'd read
>>> the manual, too.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>>
>
>

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Old 07-29-2008   #23 (permalink)
Gary S. Terhune


 
 

Re: How well does the Windows Vista Firewall work?

What makes you say so? Dedicated housing or not, it's still a bunch of
software watching what goes by. And, just so I'm sure we're on the same
page, when you say "software firewall", are you referring to something
installed on a PC or a server, or do you include the firewall in a router as
being "software"? After all, that firewall is only one part of the device,
not generally considered the most important one, even. That crown belongs to
NAT.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Not Me" <cargod01@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

>I consider a dedicated piece of equipment, even though it uses software,
>that filters content on the network and controls access to be a hardware
>firewall.
> The ones I use on the LAN even say Firewall on the equipment.
> Software firewalls may have a place, but I don't think they are as secure.
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:e$XWTpR8IHA.4924@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Read that article. It describes a piece of hardware that has an OS
>> installed and on top of that OS is the firewall. It even calls the
>> firewall software.
>>
>> No, I think people who try to differentiate between hardware and software
>> firewalls are splitting hairs.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "Not Me" <cargodZeroOne@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:O1ZDIPR8IHA.4820@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> http://24-7-solutions.net/reviews/ha...-firewall.html
>>>
>>> --
>>> A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here!
>>> CarGodZeroOne@xxxxxx
>>> Change Alpha to Numeric to reply
>>>
>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>> news:ezWqX0N8IHA.4140@xxxxxx
>>>> He's talking about the *software* firewall sitting on top of the
>>>> router's OS which is installed on/in its hardware. I still don't
>>>> understand what a "hardware firewall" is. I don't think there is any
>>>> such thing.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, that's what he's talking about, as you would know if you'd read
>>>> the manual, too.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>> http://grystmill.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Old 07-29-2008   #24 (permalink)
Not Me


 
 

Re: How well does the Windows Vista Firewall work?

What else would you call a piece of hardware whose sole function is to act
as a firewall?
It is hardware dedicated to run (generally) embedded software, to me that is
a hardware firewall.
I understand how NAT works, it does better than the so called firewalls
built into some routers (that is more of a limited function packet sniffer
or IP filter).

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:e0kpvbU8IHA.2336@xxxxxx
Quote:

> What makes you say so? Dedicated housing or not, it's still a bunch of
> software watching what goes by. And, just so I'm sure we're on the same
> page, when you say "software firewall", are you referring to something
> installed on a PC or a server, or do you include the firewall in a router
> as being "software"? After all, that firewall is only one part of the
> device, not generally considered the most important one, even. That crown
> belongs to NAT.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "Not Me" <cargod01@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OjtV5GT8IHA.5900@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>I consider a dedicated piece of equipment, even though it uses software,
>>that filters content on the network and controls access to be a hardware
>>firewall.
>> The ones I use on the LAN even say Firewall on the equipment.
>> Software firewalls may have a place, but I don't think they are as
>> secure.
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:e$XWTpR8IHA.4924@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Read that article. It describes a piece of hardware that has an OS
>>> installed and on top of that OS is the firewall. It even calls the
>>> firewall software.
>>>
>>> No, I think people who try to differentiate between hardware and
>>> software firewalls are splitting hairs.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> http://grystmill.com
>>>
>>> "Not Me" <cargodZeroOne@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:O1ZDIPR8IHA.4820@xxxxxx
>>>> http://24-7-solutions.net/reviews/ha...-firewall.html
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> A Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here!
>>>> CarGodZeroOne@xxxxxx
>>>> Change Alpha to Numeric to reply
>>>>
>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>> news:ezWqX0N8IHA.4140@xxxxxx
>>>>> He's talking about the *software* firewall sitting on top of the
>>>>> router's OS which is installed on/in its hardware. I still don't
>>>>> understand what a "hardware firewall" is. I don't think there is any
>>>>> such thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, that's what he's talking about, as you would know if you'd
>>>>> read the manual, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>> http://grystmill.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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