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Old 08-13-2008   #1 (permalink)
husky86


 
 

Do I Really Need an Antivirus Program?

I have just about had it with all antivirus programs. They slow down my
system, they cause problems with individual programs -- for instance Adobe
Acrobat 8.1 cannot convert webpages to PDF documents when antivirus programs
are installed -- and in general they just seem to make my computing
experience much more of a headache.

I have tried Norton, AVG, Avast, McAffee, and others (free and full-paid
editions). Once I remove any of these programs from my system, it's like the
sun has come out, the rain and clouds have gone away, and everything
functions beautifully.

I know that this is an age-old question (at least in computer terms), but do
I really need an antivirus program running on my system?

Especially if I don't open any attachments from any known or unknown
senders, do I really need to have an antivirus program running in the
background? Is it really essential?

Many thanks for any and all comments!

(I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate, by the way, with Microsoft Office 2007,
and Firefox 3 as my web browser.)

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Old 08-13-2008   #2 (permalink)
BigJim


 
 

Re: Do I Really Need an Antivirus Program?

you can get a virus by opening a compromised webpage so no you
don't need virus protection as long as you stay off the internet.
"husky86" <husky86@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

>I have just about had it with all antivirus programs. They slow down my
> system, they cause problems with individual programs -- for instance Adobe
> Acrobat 8.1 cannot convert webpages to PDF documents when antivirus
> programs
> are installed -- and in general they just seem to make my computing
> experience much more of a headache.
>
> I have tried Norton, AVG, Avast, McAffee, and others (free and full-paid
> editions). Once I remove any of these programs from my system, it's like
> the
> sun has come out, the rain and clouds have gone away, and everything
> functions beautifully.
>
> I know that this is an age-old question (at least in computer terms), but
> do
> I really need an antivirus program running on my system?
>
> Especially if I don't open any attachments from any known or unknown
> senders, do I really need to have an antivirus program running in the
> background? Is it really essential?
>
> Many thanks for any and all comments!
>
> (I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate, by the way, with Microsoft Office
> 2007,
> and Firefox 3 as my web browser.)

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-13-2008   #3 (permalink)


Win XP Pro / Win Vista Ultimate
 
 

Re: Do I Really Need an Antivirus Program?

well, you'll regret not having an antivirus when you start having problems like songs getting deleted, not being able to open task manager, etc.
virus can slow down you computer as well.

I would say an antivirus is a must. now, paid antiviruses are expensive and too heavy.
free antiviruses are better, you dont pay, they do their job pretty well, and they are not as heavy.
for example: 2 antiviruses that i've tried that are not heavy or slow down my compuer are: avast, and avira. both free.
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Old 08-13-2008   #4 (permalink)


Vista Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Re: Do I Really Need an Antivirus Program?

Yes, you must have an antivirus running on your computer. I am using NOD32 antivirus with no problems and I was used panda antivirus with no problems also.
Make sure that you have enough memory installed on your system ( at least 512MB RAM ) and you don't have a hardware failure with your installed memory.
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Old 08-13-2008   #5 (permalink)
Val


 
 

Re: Do I Really Need an Antivirus Program?

And you never attache devices to your computer
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/15/i...nally-thought/


"BigJim" <bigjim@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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you can get a virus by opening a compromised webpage so no you
don't need virus protection as long as you stay off the internet.
"husky86" <husky86@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:458663B0-E968-4B54-815E-AB59458292C8@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I have just about had it with all antivirus programs. They slow down my
> system, they cause problems with individual programs -- for instance Adobe
> Acrobat 8.1 cannot convert webpages to PDF documents when antivirus
> programs
> are installed -- and in general they just seem to make my computing
> experience much more of a headache.
>
> I have tried Norton, AVG, Avast, McAffee, and others (free and full-paid
> editions). Once I remove any of these programs from my system, it's like
> the
> sun has come out, the rain and clouds have gone away, and everything
> functions beautifully.
>
> I know that this is an age-old question (at least in computer terms), but
> do
> I really need an antivirus program running on my system?
>
> Especially if I don't open any attachments from any known or unknown
> senders, do I really need to have an antivirus program running in the
> background? Is it really essential?
>
> Many thanks for any and all comments!
>
> (I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate, by the way, with Microsoft Office
> 2007,
> and Firefox 3 as my web browser.)


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-13-2008   #6 (permalink)
tntoak


 
 

Re: Do I Really Need an Antivirus Program?


I have Avast on the majority of my machines, and I have yet to see a
single machine seriously affected in terms of speed by the program -
this includes an old Celeron laptop that was given to me because the
battery wouldn't hold a charge anymore.

I can't remember who did this test, but it was determined that an
unpatched, unprotected PC (i.e., no AV, antispyware, etc.) wouldn't last
more than 4 minutes before being compromised if left open on the
internet. And considering some of the news out of the Black Hat
conference in Las Vegas over the weekend (the hackers got hacked without
knowing it), that 4 minute window may be more like 2.


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Old 08-13-2008   #7 (permalink)
Kayman


 
 

Re: Do I Really Need an Antivirus Program?

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:40:21 -0700, husky86 wrote:
Quote:

> I have just about had it with all antivirus programs. They slow down my
> system, they cause problems with individual programs -- for instance Adobe
> Acrobat 8.1 cannot convert webpages to PDF documents when antivirus programs
> are installed -- and in general they just seem to make my computing
> experience much more of a headache.
A 'slow' system may not necessarily indicative of a particular software
program.
Monitor programs like Process Explorer, System Explorer or What's Running
can give you an indication what's running in the back ground of your
computer.
You could perform a scan with:
Kaspersky's AVPTool
http://downloads5.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/AVPTool/
There's no updating involved since the scanning engine is updated
several times a day and you simply download the updated scanner whenever
you want to do a scan.
Quote:

> I have tried Norton, AVG, Avast, McAffee, and others (free and full-paid
> editions). Once I remove any of these programs from my system, it's like the
> sun has come out, the rain and clouds have gone away, and everything
> functions beautifully.
A number of experts agree that the *retail* AV version of McAfee, Norton
and Trend Micro has become cumbersome and bloated for the average user.
The major criticisms are related to stability and footprint, the most
common problem being slow-downs because of the massive system resources
these applications hog. Sadly, the new version AVG has lost is lustre and
has turned in to a resource hog as well.
Quote:

> I know that this is an age-old question (at least in computer terms), but do
> I really need an antivirus program running on my system?
> Especially if I don't open any attachments from any known or unknown
> senders, do I really need to have an antivirus program running in the
> background? Is it really essential?
No, you don't; But this is a very controversial issue! The average user
who never heard of operating system hardening etc. should use a good
quality AV application :-)

To keep it simple:

Why don't you try:
Avira AntiVir® Personal - FREE Antivirus
http://www.free-av.com/
--or--
ESET NOD32 3.0 Antivirus for Win XP/2000/Vista 3.0 (30 Day Trial)
http://www.eset.com/download/free_tr...wnload_int.php

PS: prior downloading/installing the AV apps. ensure that AVG is removed
from your system *completely*.
How to remove AVG Free Antivirus
http://askabouttech.com/how-to-remov...ree-antivirus/
--or--
Revo Uninstaller
http://www.revouninstaller.com/

Good luck :-)


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Old 08-13-2008   #8 (permalink)
husky86


 
 

Re: Do I Really Need an Antivirus Program?

Thanks for all the replies!

I'm going to reinstall Avast. Out of all the ones I've tried, it was the
least problematic.
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Old 08-13-2008   #9 (permalink)
husky86


 
 

Re: Do I Really Need an Antivirus Program?

Many thanks for this very helpful info!


"Kayman" wrote:
Quote:

> On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:40:21 -0700, husky86 wrote:
>
Quote:

> > I have just about had it with all antivirus programs. They slow down my
> > system, they cause problems with individual programs -- for instance Adobe
> > Acrobat 8.1 cannot convert webpages to PDF documents when antivirus programs
> > are installed -- and in general they just seem to make my computing
> > experience much more of a headache.
>
> A 'slow' system may not necessarily indicative of a particular software
> program.
> Monitor programs like Process Explorer, System Explorer or What's Running
> can give you an indication what's running in the back ground of your
> computer.
> You could perform a scan with:
> Kaspersky's AVPTool
> http://downloads5.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/AVPTool/
> There's no updating involved since the scanning engine is updated
> several times a day and you simply download the updated scanner whenever
> you want to do a scan.
>
Quote:

> > I have tried Norton, AVG, Avast, McAffee, and others (free and full-paid
> > editions). Once I remove any of these programs from my system, it's like the
> > sun has come out, the rain and clouds have gone away, and everything
> > functions beautifully.
>
> A number of experts agree that the *retail* AV version of McAfee, Norton
> and Trend Micro has become cumbersome and bloated for the average user.
> The major criticisms are related to stability and footprint, the most
> common problem being slow-downs because of the massive system resources
> these applications hog. Sadly, the new version AVG has lost is lustre and
> has turned in to a resource hog as well.
>
Quote:

> > I know that this is an age-old question (at least in computer terms), but do
> > I really need an antivirus program running on my system?
> > Especially if I don't open any attachments from any known or unknown
> > senders, do I really need to have an antivirus program running in the
> > background? Is it really essential?
>
> No, you don't; But this is a very controversial issue! The average user
> who never heard of operating system hardening etc. should use a good
> quality AV application :-)
>
> To keep it simple:
>
> Why don't you try:
> Avira AntiVirĀ® Personal - FREE Antivirus
> http://www.free-av.com/
> --or--
> ESET NOD32 3.0 Antivirus for Win XP/2000/Vista 3.0 (30 Day Trial)
> http://www.eset.com/download/free_tr...wnload_int.php
>
> PS: prior downloading/installing the AV apps. ensure that AVG is removed
> from your system *completely*.
> How to remove AVG Free Antivirus
> http://askabouttech.com/how-to-remov...ree-antivirus/
> --or--
> Revo Uninstaller
> http://www.revouninstaller.com/
>
> Good luck :-)
>
>
>
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Old 08-13-2008   #10 (permalink)
Not Me


 
 

Re: Do I Really Need an Antivirus Program?

Not having an antivirus is like walking cross-country barefoot in snake &
scorpion country.
You might get lucky a few times, but eventually you'll get bit.
If you're going to use the net, you need to accept the fact there are a LOT
of people out there that want to either infect your machine (just to show
they can) or steal your data (to get your money).

There are as many opinions of what the best AV is as there are AV programs,
but use SOMETHING!!
I use Avast, AVG8, Clamwin (all free) and NOD32 (paid) on various machines.
Of the Paid AVs, NOD32 is probably among the best.
I avoid Norton/Symantec and McAfee like the plague. I think Panda is
mediocre.

"husky86" <husky86@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:458663B0-E968-4B54-815E-AB59458292C8@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I have just about had it with all antivirus programs. They slow down my
> system, they cause problems with individual programs -- for instance Adobe
> Acrobat 8.1 cannot convert webpages to PDF documents when antivirus
> programs
> are installed -- and in general they just seem to make my computing
> experience much more of a headache.
>
> I have tried Norton, AVG, Avast, McAffee, and others (free and full-paid
> editions). Once I remove any of these programs from my system, it's like
> the
> sun has come out, the rain and clouds have gone away, and everything
> functions beautifully.
>
> I know that this is an age-old question (at least in computer terms), but
> do
> I really need an antivirus program running on my system?
>
> Especially if I don't open any attachments from any known or unknown
> senders, do I really need to have an antivirus program running in the
> background? Is it really essential?
>
> Many thanks for any and all comments!
>
> (I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate, by the way, with Microsoft Office
> 2007,
> and Firefox 3 as my web browser.)

My System SpecsSystem Spec
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