Hello there,

I have strange issue with Vista Ultimate edition with SP1 and latest
patches. Once I reboot the PC, it looks fine with regular login Screen. Once
I choose a user to login, it give Windows explorer pointing to document
folder with black backgroud screen. If I close the explorer windows, all
screen will become black. If I hit CTRL +ALT+ Del choose task manager, from
process tab, kill explorer.exe, then click application Tab, new task, type
explorer, then click OK, everything is backing to normal. It happens to all
users on the PC. Even I delete a user profile, or create a new user with the
same issue. It seems the settings that applied to all users. open MSconfig
all serviceds are Microsoft services and Symantec services, start up are all
normal. Just cannot figure out what's going on. BTW, in XP there is settings
in C:\documents and Settings, there is default users settings folder, why I
cannot find in Vista? Is there any similar settings that can be changed in
Vista or there is ant registry settings I have to look at?



TIA

"EX Admin" wrote:

> BTW, in XP there is settings
> in C:\documents and Settings, there is default users settings folder, why I
> cannot find in Vista?

open Windows Explorer, click on the address bar and just type
c:\users\userName\appdata and hit ENTER key.

"BillD" <BillD@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
>
> "EX Admin" wrote:
>

>> BTW, in XP there is settings
>> in C:\documents and Settings, there is default users settings folder, why
>> I
>> cannot find in Vista?

>
> open Windows Explorer, click on the address bar and just type
> c:\users\userName\appdata and hit ENTER key.

It's a lot quicker to just type %appdata%

ss.

"EX Admin" <EXAdmin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Hello there,
>
> I have strange issue with Vista Ultimate edition with SP1 and latest
> patches. Once I reboot the PC, it looks fine with regular login Screen.
> Once
> I choose a user to login, it give Windows explorer pointing to document
> folder with black backgroud screen. If I close the explorer windows, all
> screen will become black. If I hit CTRL +ALT+ Del choose task manager,
> from
> process tab, kill explorer.exe, then click application Tab, new task, type
> explorer, then click OK, everything is backing to normal. It happens to
> all
> users on the PC. Even I delete a user profile, or create a new user with
> the
> same issue. It seems the settings that applied to all users. open
> MSconfig
> all serviceds are Microsoft services and Symantec services, start up are
> all
> normal. Just cannot figure out what's going on. BTW, in XP there is
> settings
> in C:\documents and Settings, there is default users settings folder, why
> I
> cannot find in Vista? Is there any similar settings that can be changed in
> Vista or there is ant registry settings I have to look at?

I'd run Autoruns, and see what is loading at startup from All Users.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb963902.aspx

ss.

Thanks for info. It seems everything is normal. Here is output. any suggestion:

Microsoft - ATI- Nero - Symantec - adobe

Auto Run - Logon

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Userinit C:\Windows\system32\userinit.exeUserinit
Logon Application Microsoft Corporation c:\windows\system32\userinit.exe

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Shell
Explorer.exeWindows Explorer Microsoft Corporation c:\windows\explorer.exe


Is it Normal to startup with explorer.exe automatically? If not, How to
disable it?

Thanks again

I unchecked the explorer.exe from autoruns, it's getting worse. Once I
login, it just gives me a black screen. I cannot get back to normal screen by
doing task manger trick.

"EX Admin" wrote:

> Thanks for info. It seems everything is normal. Here is output. any suggestion:
>
> Microsoft - ATI- Nero - Symantec - adobe
>
> Auto Run - Logon
>
> HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
> NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Userinit C:\Windows\system32\userinit.exeUserinit
> Logon Application Microsoft Corporation c:\windows\system32\userinit.exe
>
> HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Shell
> Explorer.exeWindows Explorer Microsoft Corporation c:\windows\explorer.exe
>
>
> Is it Normal to startup with explorer.exe automatically? If not, How to
> disable it?
>
> Thanks again

"EX Admin" <EXAdmin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Thanks for info. It seems everything is normal. Here is output. any
> suggestion:
>
> Microsoft - ATI- Nero - Symantec - adobe
>
> Auto Run - Logon
>
> HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
> NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Userinit
> C:\Windows\system32\userinit.exeUserinit
> Logon Application Microsoft Corporation c:\windows\system32\userinit.exe
>
> HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Shell
> Explorer.exeWindows Explorer Microsoft Corporation c:\windows\explorer.exe
>
>
> Is it Normal to startup with explorer.exe automatically? If not, How to
> disable it?

That second entry looks a bit fishy to me, but I do not have a Vista machine
to hand to confirm. You should be able to disable it by unticking the box.
If it is that which is causing this, you can try deleting the registry key.

Let someone else here, that uses Vista, confirm whether that should be
there, first.

ss.

"EX Admin" <EXAdmin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
> I unchecked the explorer.exe from autoruns, it's getting worse. Once I
> login, it just gives me a black screen. I cannot get back to normal screen
> by
> doing task manger trick.

On reboot, after post, try pressing F8 every one or two seconds, and choose
Last Known Good Configuration. (I can't actually remember if Vista has
this, but try anyway).

Other than what I have already suggested, I cannot think of place to look.
If Safe Mode works ok, it should be something in your startup list. I doubt
it could be a driver or service issue.

ss.

"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "EX Admin" <EXAdmin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:0DA6F389-76C5-47BF-9EB0-A958FE74F378@xxxxxx

>> Thanks for info. It seems everything is normal. Here is output. any
>> suggestion:
>>
>> Microsoft - ATI- Nero - Symantec - adobe
>>
>> Auto Run - Logon
>>
>> HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
>> NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Userinit
>> C:\Windows\system32\userinit.exeUserinit
>> Logon Application Microsoft Corporation c:\windows\system32\userinit.exe
>>
>> HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Shell
>> Explorer.exeWindows Explorer Microsoft Corporation
>> c:\windows\explorer.exe
>>
>>
>> Is it Normal to startup with explorer.exe automatically? If not, How to
>> disable it?

>
> That second entry looks a bit fishy to me, but I do not have a Vista
> machine to hand to confirm. You should be able to disable it by unticking
> the box. If it is that which is causing this, you can try deleting the
> registry key.
>
> Let someone else here, that uses Vista, confirm whether that should be
> there, first.
>
> ss.
>
>

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\AutoLogonChecked
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\GPExtensions
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify

This is all I got in Vista Home 32bit

--
Hobbes, Tiger Extraordinaire

I unchecked the explorer.exe from autoruns, it's getting worse. Once I
login, it just gives me a black screen. I cannot get back to normal screen by
doing task manger trick.

I checked the explorer.exe again. I saw registry entry is gone (autoruns
disabled subkey). However, it only gives me black screen now. the trick
doesn't work anymore.


"Synapse Syndrome" wrote:

> "EX Admin" <EXAdmin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:0DA6F389-76C5-47BF-9EB0-A958FE74F378@xxxxxx

> > Thanks for info. It seems everything is normal. Here is output. any
> > suggestion:
> >
> > Microsoft - ATI- Nero - Symantec - adobe
> >
> > Auto Run - Logon
> >
> > HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
> > NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Userinit
> > C:\Windows\system32\userinit.exeUserinit
> > Logon Application Microsoft Corporation c:\windows\system32\userinit.exe
> >
> > HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Shell
> > Explorer.exeWindows Explorer Microsoft Corporation c:\windows\explorer.exe
> >
> >
> > Is it Normal to startup with explorer.exe automatically? If not, How to
> > disable it?

>
> That second entry looks a bit fishy to me, but I do not have a Vista machine
> to hand to confirm. You should be able to disable it by unticking the box.
> If it is that which is causing this, you can try deleting the registry key.
>
> Let someone else here, that uses Vista, confirm whether that should be
> there, first.
>
> ss.
>
>
>