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Old 08-20-2008   #1 (permalink)
Paul Furman


 
 

Dual Monitors Windows Update Mess

Sony laptop VGN-FZ285U
Vista Ultimate
Geforce 8400M GT

The vista dual monitor configuration was a mess before but after an
uninvited windows update today it's royally screwed. I'm not generally a
whiner, I put up with the random badness before but this is simply
unworkable.

First the added monitor will not display at full resolution (I think it
was initially blank after the update) so my gorgeous 26" 1920x1200
monitor is 1280x768. Any other resolution and it goes blank. And it
isn't possible to get vista to show the correct full resolution, it
maxes out at 1600x1200, totally wrong aspect ratio (not that it works at
that res anyways), that problem happened before but reseting, rebooting
& unplugging eventually fixed it.

Second, at some random interval, the displays will flip back & forth 3
or so times out of the blue, landing on the wrong config... it just
happened as I typed that!!! Cripes.

Other things it did before was putting the laptop to sleep, it would
flip the two, landing wrong when re-awakening. Certain ritualistic
sequences of resets, reboots & unplugs got it to where it'd only flip
back & forth disorganizing my icons but at least land on the correct
side. Rebooting or unplugging for an outing could cause me to have to do
that ritual again. And I didn't whine, but now I am whining :-) It also
did a BSD sometimes when being put to sleep.

I downloaded a 'fresh' driver from Sony, then let windows locate the
best driver it could download.

I tried booting with all usb devices unplugged (has been necessary before).

I googled it & saw lots of variations on these issues, none quite
identical and none with a solution.

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Old 08-20-2008   #2 (permalink)


Vista Ultimate x64
 
 

Re: Dual Monitors Windows Update Mess

Quote:
I downloaded a 'fresh' driver from Sony
Motherboard driver, video driver, etc?

Quote:
then let windows locate the best driver it could download.
Don't. Why would you install what is in all likelihood a properly working drive, and then let Windows "update" it?
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Old 08-20-2008   #3 (permalink)
Paul Furman


 
 

Re: Dual Monitors Windows Update Mess

stormy13 wrote:
Quote:
Quote:

>> I downloaded a 'fresh' driver from Sony
>
> Motherboard driver, video driver, etc?
Video driver.
Quote:
Quote:

>> then let windows locate the best driver it could download.
>
> Don't. Why would you install what is in all likelihood a properly
> working drive, and then let Windows "update" it?
I'll try anything, I thought it might be something simpler & Vista
approved for the video, doesn't seem to have mattered, I still get the
nvidea control panel, etc.
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Old 08-20-2008   #4 (permalink)


Vista Ultimate x64
 
 

Re: Dual Monitors Windows Update Mess

Only use the driver from Sony. Also how is the second monitor connected to the laptop?
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Old 08-20-2008   #5 (permalink)
Paul Furman


 
 

Re: Dual Monitors Windows Update Mess

stormy13 wrote:
Quote:

> Only use the driver from Sony. Also how is the second monitor connected
> to the laptop?
It is through the old style plug. There is a DVI plug, I just don't have
a cord. Below are a couple 'solutions' I found in this group to some of
the problems like the flipping. The thing that's really killing me now
though is not being able to run my 26" monitor at full resolution.
Quote:

> Re: Vista logon changes Dual monitor display settings
> helmetheadcyclegear wrote:
Quote:

>> Disabling TMM in Task Scheduler worked for me on my laptop. I searched
>> all over the place for a solution and am glad that I stumbled upon this
>> page for help. To access Task Scheduler in Vista, go to the Start Menu
>> and type in Task Scheduler. In the 'Task Scheduler Library', select
>> Microsoft->Windows->MobilePC. Right click 'TMM' and select 'Disable'.
>> You will need to log out and then log back in for changes to take
>> effect.
Quote:

> Re: Dual monitor display settings revert on startup
> peter22 wrote:
Quote:

>> Hello,
>>
>> Also experienced loosing the dual display monitor settings after
>> reboot/sleep/hybernate/Lock using Vista an a Dell Inspiron 6000 note
>> book.
>> Finally fixed this issue installing the latest ATI drivers after using
>> a special tool: Mobility Modder. Please have a look at:
>> http://www.driverheaven.net/modtool.php
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Old 08-20-2008   #6 (permalink)
Paul Furman


 
 

Re: Dual Monitors Windows Update Mess

Paul Furman wrote:
Quote:

> Below are a couple 'solutions' I found in this group to some of
> the problems like the flipping. The thing that's really killing me now
> though is not being able to run my 26" monitor at full resolution.
Here's the best detailed discussion of the issues:
http://www.west-wind.com/weblog/posts/22072.aspx
I'm going to try some reboots after turning off the Windows Aero scheme.

I'm going to try this driver too:
http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/GRA...Go-15607.shtml
though it doesn't list the precise card I have...

Here's another utility recommended (Power Strip):
http://entechtaiwan.net/util/ps.shtm
-maybe can help me get the correct native resolution

I'm not using the DVI connection which eliminates some possible problems
people describe.

This excerpt explains more or less how I fixed some problems before:
"I had multi monitor working reasonably well - other then I had to swap
the monitors on my desk as every time the machine rebooted it put the
external monitor on the right (I orignally had it on the lef) . After a
windows update the whole graphics system crashed if I even plugged in
the external monitor. I finally fixed the problem by going into the
device manager and disabling the default monitor when I re pluged my
monitor everything came up working in Multi mode again . It re installed
a new default monitor in the device manager & I deleted the old one.
Hope this helps"

I also tried turning off the task manager thing as the other links
suggested & a simple logoff didn't seem to help, well maybe it helped
the flipping thing. I got random flips at 8:08 AM then 8:26 AM, none
since (9:50 AM now).
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Old 08-20-2008   #7 (permalink)
Paul Furman


 
 

Re: Dual Monitors Windows Update Mess

Paul Furman wrote:
Quote:

> Paul Furman wrote:
Quote:

>> Below are a couple 'solutions' I found in this group to some of the
>> problems like the flipping. The thing that's really killing me now
>> though is not being able to run my 26" monitor at full resolution.
>
> Here's the best detailed discussion of the issues:
> http://www.west-wind.com/weblog/posts/22072.aspx
> I'm going to try some reboots after turning off the Windows Aero scheme.
>
> I also tried turning off the task manager thing as the other links
> suggested & a simple logoff didn't seem to help, well maybe it helped
> the flipping thing. I got random flips at 8:08 AM then 8:26 AM, none
> since (9:50 AM now).
These two things (no aero, no task manager thingy) plus uninstall,
disable, reinstall, reboot multiple times (be patient when it comes up
black with just a mouse pointer) fixed most of the problems but not the
native resolution issue.

I installed ultramon 3.0 beta 2.1 for vista 32 and that easily detected
the 1920x1200 resolution so I'm good to go:
http://www.realtimesoft.com/ultramon/
(also recommended in the link above)
That's $40 when the trial expires.

Looks like it has other nice features like controlling wallpapers for
each monitor too.
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Old 08-22-2008   #8 (permalink)
Paul Furman


 
 

Re: Dual Monitors Windows Update Mess

Paul Furman wrote:
Quote:

> Paul Furman wrote:
Quote:

>> Paul Furman wrote:
Quote:

>>> Below are a couple 'solutions' I found in this group to some of the
>>> problems like the flipping. The thing that's really killing me now
>>> though is not being able to run my 26" monitor at full resolution.
>>
>> Here's the best detailed discussion of the issues:
>> http://www.west-wind.com/weblog/posts/22072.aspx
>> I'm going to try some reboots after turning off the Windows Aero scheme.
>>
>> I also tried turning off the task manager thing as the other links
>> suggested & a simple logoff didn't seem to help, well maybe it helped
>> the flipping thing. I got random flips at 8:08 AM then 8:26 AM, none
>> since (9:50 AM now).
>
> These two things (no aero,
Followup, I still had to turn off aero, even with ultramon or it gives a
BSD when putting the laptop to sleep and forgets the screen size.
Quote:

> no task manager thingy) plus uninstall,
> disable, reinstall, reboot multiple times (be patient when it comes up
> black with just a mouse pointer) fixed most of the problems but not the
> native resolution issue.
>
> I installed ultramon 3.0 beta 2.1 for vista 32 and that easily detected
> the 1920x1200 resolution so I'm good to go:
> http://www.realtimesoft.com/ultramon/
> (also recommended in the link above)
> That's $40 when the trial expires.
>
> Looks like it has other nice features like controlling wallpapers for
> each monitor too.

--
Paul Furman
www.edgehill.net
www.baynatives.com

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