Vista - Is Vista capable of serving as a server such as web, mail, and DNS

08-21-2008

Dear all,
I have some questions about using Vista Biz serving as a server.
1. Can Vista Biz be or is the capability enough to do web server, mail
server and DNS server?
The scope is for a small biz group with less than 10 people. As for the web
server, it wouldn't be lots of traffic in the beginning either.
2. If yes, Is there any tutorial or guidelines to setup those servers in
vista?

08-21-2008

Hello

1) DNS and DHCP server not without using 3rd party software, webserver yes
but using MS you will have problems as it is very limited in connections.

2) for web serving your can try lampp for windows which includes Apache/php.

Mike

"Boku" <Boku@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:585CBDC0-1D3E-43EF-845B-98123F891D98@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Dear all,
> I have some questions about using Vista Biz serving as a server.
> 1. Can Vista Biz be or is the capability enough to do web server, mail
> server and DNS server?
> The scope is for a small biz group with less than 10 people. As for the
> web
> server, it wouldn't be lots of traffic in the beginning either.
> 2. If yes, Is there any tutorial or guidelines to setup those servers in
> vista?
>

08-21-2008

Thanks. Furthermore, I'm in the middle of making decision whether using Vista
or Server 2003 as my server to do these services.
Could you or anyone else recommend please?
Thanks!~

"Michael John Ruff" wrote:

Quote:

> Hello
>
> 1) DNS and DHCP server not without using 3rd party software, webserver yes
> but using MS you will have problems as it is very limited in connections.
>
> 2) for web serving your can try lampp for windows which includes Apache/php.
>
> Mike
>
> "Boku" <Boku@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:585CBDC0-1D3E-43EF-845B-98123F891D98@xxxxxx

Quote:

> > Dear all,
> > I have some questions about using Vista Biz serving as a server.
> > 1. Can Vista Biz be or is the capability enough to do web server, mail
> > server and DNS server?
> > The scope is for a small biz group with less than 10 people. As for the
> > web
> > server, it wouldn't be lots of traffic in the beginning either.
> > 2. If yes, Is there any tutorial or guidelines to setup those servers in
> > vista?
> >

>
>
>

08-21-2008

Hello Boku

It depends on your level of experience, for the beginner I wouldnt recommend
using server 2003 as it can be pretty probmatic to setup for the services
you require.

Even setting up Web Server is a little bit of a nighmare, I have been
running Lampp for some time on a windows platform and find no issues and it
installs all in one go only one piece of SW to install,

Michael
"Boku" <Boku@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:B4B3CEC1-959D-409A-A4EA-EB0206D4C30C@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Thanks. Furthermore, I'm in the middle of making decision whether using
> Vista
> or Server 2003 as my server to do these services.
> Could you or anyone else recommend please?
> Thanks!~
>
> "Michael John Ruff" wrote:
>

Quote:

>> Hello
>>
>> 1) DNS and DHCP server not without using 3rd party software, webserver
>> yes
>> but using MS you will have problems as it is very limited in connections.
>>
>> 2) for web serving your can try lampp for windows which includes
>> Apache/php.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> "Boku" <Boku@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:585CBDC0-1D3E-43EF-845B-98123F891D98@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> > Dear all,
>> > I have some questions about using Vista Biz serving as a server.
>> > 1. Can Vista Biz be or is the capability enough to do web server, mail
>> > server and DNS server?
>> > The scope is for a small biz group with less than 10 people. As for the
>> > web
>> > server, it wouldn't be lots of traffic in the beginning either.
>> > 2. If yes, Is there any tutorial or guidelines to setup those servers
>> > in
>> > vista?
>> >

>>
>>
>>

08-21-2008

Boku wrote:

Quote:

> Thanks. Furthermore, I'm in the middle of making decision whether using Vista
> or Server 2003 as my server to do these services.
> Could you or anyone else recommend please?

Don't use windows for a web server unless you have a reason like an
office intranet or MS mail/nntp stuff or server side MS
scripting/database stuff. Apache is preferred. I'm no guru but I run a
localhost apache setup for testing php scripts and have some familiarity
with others doing this kind of thing. Typical commercial web hosting is
never MS, unless people request that for their specific needs. I had
some MS Access familiarity & wanted to move that to web uses and looked
into it: apache/php/mysql was the better choice by a long shot. lampp or
similar is a one click install of those three though it can be a bear
fine tuning if things are a little funny, it's ultimately much cleaner &
more stable. No mysterious BSODs. That's what makes the internet work on
*nix and it works fine on windows. I know a guy who runs a private nntp
server on MS but only because he has a server version already for coding
corporate stuff but that's a rather obscure need.

Quote:

> "Michael John Ruff" wrote:
>

Quote:

>> Hello
>>
>> 1) DNS and DHCP server not without using 3rd party software, webserver yes
>> but using MS you will have problems as it is very limited in connections.
>>
>> 2) for web serving your can try lampp for windows which includes Apache/php.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> "Boku" <Boku@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:585CBDC0-1D3E-43EF-845B-98123F891D98@xxxxxx

Quote:

>>> Dear all,
>>> I have some questions about using Vista Biz serving as a server.
>>> 1. Can Vista Biz be or is the capability enough to do web server, mail
>>> server and DNS server?
>>> The scope is for a small biz group with less than 10 people. As for the
>>> web
>>> server, it wouldn't be lots of traffic in the beginning either.
>>> 2. If yes, Is there any tutorial or guidelines to setup those servers in
>>> vista?
>>>

>>
>>

08-21-2008

"Boku" <Boku@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:B4B3CEC1-959D-409A-A4EA-EB0206D4C30C@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Thanks. Furthermore, I'm in the middle of making decision whether using
> Vista
> or Server 2003 as my server to do these services.
> Could you or anyone else recommend please?
> Thanks!~

You could have a look at Windows Small Business Server 2003, which makes
setting it up very easy, all done using Wizards. It is also very cheap,
considering all you get with it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Business_Server

I personally do not think that setting up your tasks on normal Windows
Server 2003 would be difficult. I don't think it is on sale anymore though,
so you'd probably have to look into Server 2008 instead.

ss.

08-21-2008

"Paul Furman" <paul-@-edgehill.net> wrote in message
news:Rn9rk.18870$mh5.1622@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Boku wrote:

Quote:

>> Thanks. Furthermore, I'm in the middle of making decision whether using
>> Vista or Server 2003 as my server to do these services. Could you or
>> anyone else recommend please?

>
> Don't use windows for a web server unless you have a reason like an office
> intranet or MS mail/nntp stuff or server side MS scripting/database stuff.
> Apache is preferred. I'm no guru but I run a localhost apache setup for
> testing php scripts and have some familiarity with others doing this kind
> of thing. Typical commercial web hosting is never MS, unless people
> request that for their specific needs. I had some MS Access familiarity &
> wanted to move that to web uses and looked into it: apache/php/mysql was
> the better choice by a long shot. lampp or similar is a one click install
> of those three though it can be a bear fine tuning if things are a little
> funny, it's ultimately much cleaner & more stable. No mysterious BSODs.
> That's what makes the internet work on *nix and it works fine on windows.
> I know a guy who runs a private nntp server on MS but only because he has
> a server version already for coding corporate stuff but that's a rather
> obscure need.

My server, running Windows Server 2003, never crashes.

ss.

08-21-2008

"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23ONoig2AJHA.4312@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> Thanks. Furthermore, I'm in the middle of making decision whether using
>> Vista
>> or Server 2003 as my server to do these services.
>> Could you or anyone else recommend please?
>> Thanks!~

>
> You could have a look at Windows Small Business Server 2003, which makes
> setting it up very easy, all done using Wizards. It is also very cheap,
> considering all you get with it.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Business_Server
>
> I personally do not think that setting up your tasks on normal Windows
> Server 2003 would be difficult. I don't think it is on sale anymore
> though, so you'd probably have to look into Server 2008 instead.

Oh, or you could wait a little while for Windows Essential Business Server.
I have only just heard of it, so I could not tell you any more about it than
this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows...usiness_Server

After you factor in the cost of Microsoft Exchange server, these could be
your best options.

ss.

08-21-2008

"Boku" <Boku@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:585CBDC0-1D3E-43EF-845B-98123F891D98@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Dear all,
> I have some questions about using Vista Biz serving as a server.
> 1. Can Vista Biz be or is the capability enough to do web server, mail
> server and DNS server?
> The scope is for a small biz group with less than 10 people. As for the
> web
> server, it wouldn't be lots of traffic in the beginning either.
> 2. If yes, Is there any tutorial or guidelines to setup those servers in
> vista?
>

A Windows workstation of any version is not a Web server solution. You want
the Win 2k3 server O/S, which is a Web server platform.

You'll also what to find a book or articles on how to secure the O/S, file
system, IIS, user accounts and registry for a server O/S that's going to
face the public Internet hosting IIS, otherwise, you'll just be putting up
hack bait.

08-21-2008

"Boku" wrote:

Quote:

> Dear all,
> 1. Can Vista Biz be or is the capability enough to do web server?

Vista Home Premium+ has IIS7 which is a web server. It's not installed by
default, but you can install it:
click the Start button , click "Control Panel", click Programs, and then
click "Turn Windows features on or off"

08-21-2008	#1 (permalink)
Boku n/a posts	Is Vista capable of serving as a server such as web, mail, and DNS Dear all, I have some questions about using Vista Biz serving as a server. 1. Can Vista Biz be or is the capability enough to do web server, mail server and DNS server? The scope is for a small biz group with less than 10 people. As for the web server, it wouldn't be lots of traffic in the beginning either. 2. If yes, Is there any tutorial or guidelines to setup those servers in vista?
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08-21-2008	#2 (permalink)
Michael John Ruff n/a posts	Re: Is Vista capable of serving as a server such as web, mail, and DNS Hello 1) DNS and DHCP server not without using 3rd party software, webserver yes but using MS you will have problems as it is very limited in connections. 2) for web serving your can try lampp for windows which includes Apache/php. Mike "Boku" <Boku@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:585CBDC0-1D3E-43EF-845B-98123F891D98@xxxxxx Quote: > Dear all, > I have some questions about using Vista Biz serving as a server. > 1. Can Vista Biz be or is the capability enough to do web server, mail > server and DNS server? > The scope is for a small biz group with less than 10 people. As for the > web > server, it wouldn't be lots of traffic in the beginning either. > 2. If yes, Is there any tutorial or guidelines to setup those servers in > vista? >
My System Specs

08-21-2008	#3 (permalink)
Boku n/a posts	Re: Is Vista capable of serving as a server such as web, mail, and Thanks. Furthermore, I'm in the middle of making decision whether using Vista or Server 2003 as my server to do these services. Could you or anyone else recommend please? Thanks!~ "Michael John Ruff" wrote: Quote: > Hello > > 1) DNS and DHCP server not without using 3rd party software, webserver yes > but using MS you will have problems as it is very limited in connections. > > 2) for web serving your can try lampp for windows which includes Apache/php. > > Mike > > "Boku" <Boku@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:585CBDC0-1D3E-43EF-845B-98123F891D98@xxxxxx Quote: > > Dear all, > > I have some questions about using Vista Biz serving as a server. > > 1. Can Vista Biz be or is the capability enough to do web server, mail > > server and DNS server? > > The scope is for a small biz group with less than 10 people. As for the > > web > > server, it wouldn't be lots of traffic in the beginning either. > > 2. If yes, Is there any tutorial or guidelines to setup those servers in > > vista? > > > > >
My System Specs

08-21-2008	#4 (permalink)
Michael John Ruff n/a posts	Re: Is Vista capable of serving as a server such as web, mail, and Hello Boku It depends on your level of experience, for the beginner I wouldnt recommend using server 2003 as it can be pretty probmatic to setup for the services you require. Even setting up Web Server is a little bit of a nighmare, I have been running Lampp for some time on a windows platform and find no issues and it installs all in one go only one piece of SW to install, Michael "Boku" <Boku@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:B4B3CEC1-959D-409A-A4EA-EB0206D4C30C@xxxxxx Quote: > Thanks. Furthermore, I'm in the middle of making decision whether using > Vista > or Server 2003 as my server to do these services. > Could you or anyone else recommend please? > Thanks!~ > > "Michael John Ruff" wrote: > Quote: >> Hello >> >> 1) DNS and DHCP server not without using 3rd party software, webserver >> yes >> but using MS you will have problems as it is very limited in connections. >> >> 2) for web serving your can try lampp for windows which includes >> Apache/php. >> >> Mike >> >> "Boku" <Boku@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:585CBDC0-1D3E-43EF-845B-98123F891D98@xxxxxx Quote: >> > Dear all, >> > I have some questions about using Vista Biz serving as a server. >> > 1. Can Vista Biz be or is the capability enough to do web server, mail >> > server and DNS server? >> > The scope is for a small biz group with less than 10 people. As for the >> > web >> > server, it wouldn't be lots of traffic in the beginning either. >> > 2. If yes, Is there any tutorial or guidelines to setup those servers >> > in >> > vista? >> > >> >> >>
My System Specs

08-21-2008	#5 (permalink)
Paul Furman n/a posts	Re: Is Vista capable of serving as a server such as web, mail, and Boku wrote: Quote: > Thanks. Furthermore, I'm in the middle of making decision whether using Vista > or Server 2003 as my server to do these services. > Could you or anyone else recommend please? Don't use windows for a web server unless you have a reason like an office intranet or MS mail/nntp stuff or server side MS scripting/database stuff. Apache is preferred. I'm no guru but I run a localhost apache setup for testing php scripts and have some familiarity with others doing this kind of thing. Typical commercial web hosting is never MS, unless people request that for their specific needs. I had some MS Access familiarity & wanted to move that to web uses and looked into it: apache/php/mysql was the better choice by a long shot. lampp or similar is a one click install of those three though it can be a bear fine tuning if things are a little funny, it's ultimately much cleaner & more stable. No mysterious BSODs. That's what makes the internet work on *nix and it works fine on windows. I know a guy who runs a private nntp server on MS but only because he has a server version already for coding corporate stuff but that's a rather obscure need. Quote: > "Michael John Ruff" wrote: > Quote: >> Hello >> >> 1) DNS and DHCP server not without using 3rd party software, webserver yes >> but using MS you will have problems as it is very limited in connections. >> >> 2) for web serving your can try lampp for windows which includes Apache/php. >> >> Mike >> >> "Boku" <Boku@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:585CBDC0-1D3E-43EF-845B-98123F891D98@xxxxxx Quote: >>> Dear all, >>> I have some questions about using Vista Biz serving as a server. >>> 1. Can Vista Biz be or is the capability enough to do web server, mail >>> server and DNS server? >>> The scope is for a small biz group with less than 10 people. As for the >>> web >>> server, it wouldn't be lots of traffic in the beginning either. >>> 2. If yes, Is there any tutorial or guidelines to setup those servers in >>> vista? >>> >> >>
My System Specs

08-21-2008	#6 (permalink)
Synapse Syndrome n/a posts	Re: Is Vista capable of serving as a server such as web, mail, and "Boku" <Boku@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:B4B3CEC1-959D-409A-A4EA-EB0206D4C30C@xxxxxx Quote: > Thanks. Furthermore, I'm in the middle of making decision whether using > Vista > or Server 2003 as my server to do these services. > Could you or anyone else recommend please? > Thanks!~ You could have a look at Windows Small Business Server 2003, which makes setting it up very easy, all done using Wizards. It is also very cheap, considering all you get with it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Business_Server I personally do not think that setting up your tasks on normal Windows Server 2003 would be difficult. I don't think it is on sale anymore though, so you'd probably have to look into Server 2008 instead. ss.
My System Specs

08-21-2008	#7 (permalink)
Synapse Syndrome n/a posts	Re: Is Vista capable of serving as a server such as web, mail, and "Paul Furman" <paul-@-edgehill.net> wrote in message news:Rn9rk.18870$mh5.1622@xxxxxx Quote: > Boku wrote: Quote: >> Thanks. Furthermore, I'm in the middle of making decision whether using >> Vista or Server 2003 as my server to do these services. Could you or >> anyone else recommend please? > > Don't use windows for a web server unless you have a reason like an office > intranet or MS mail/nntp stuff or server side MS scripting/database stuff. > Apache is preferred. I'm no guru but I run a localhost apache setup for > testing php scripts and have some familiarity with others doing this kind > of thing. Typical commercial web hosting is never MS, unless people > request that for their specific needs. I had some MS Access familiarity & > wanted to move that to web uses and looked into it: apache/php/mysql was > the better choice by a long shot. lampp or similar is a one click install > of those three though it can be a bear fine tuning if things are a little > funny, it's ultimately much cleaner & more stable. No mysterious BSODs. > That's what makes the internet work on *nix and it works fine on windows. > I know a guy who runs a private nntp server on MS but only because he has > a server version already for coding corporate stuff but that's a rather > obscure need. My server, running Windows Server 2003, never crashes. ss.
My System Specs

08-21-2008	#8 (permalink)
Synapse Syndrome n/a posts	Re: Is Vista capable of serving as a server such as web, mail, and "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23ONoig2AJHA.4312@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: >> Thanks. Furthermore, I'm in the middle of making decision whether using >> Vista >> or Server 2003 as my server to do these services. >> Could you or anyone else recommend please? >> Thanks!~ > > You could have a look at Windows Small Business Server 2003, which makes > setting it up very easy, all done using Wizards. It is also very cheap, > considering all you get with it. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Business_Server > > I personally do not think that setting up your tasks on normal Windows > Server 2003 would be difficult. I don't think it is on sale anymore > though, so you'd probably have to look into Server 2008 instead. Oh, or you could wait a little while for Windows Essential Business Server. I have only just heard of it, so I could not tell you any more about it than this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows...usiness_Server After you factor in the cost of Microsoft Exchange server, these could be your best options. ss.
My System Specs

08-21-2008	#9 (permalink)
Mr. Arnold n/a posts	Re: Is Vista capable of serving as a server such as web, mail, and DNS "Boku" <Boku@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:585CBDC0-1D3E-43EF-845B-98123F891D98@xxxxxx Quote: > Dear all, > I have some questions about using Vista Biz serving as a server. > 1. Can Vista Biz be or is the capability enough to do web server, mail > server and DNS server? > The scope is for a small biz group with less than 10 people. As for the > web > server, it wouldn't be lots of traffic in the beginning either. > 2. If yes, Is there any tutorial or guidelines to setup those servers in > vista? > A Windows workstation of any version is not a Web server solution. You want the Win 2k3 server O/S, which is a Web server platform. You'll also what to find a book or articles on how to secure the O/S, file system, IIS, user accounts and registry for a server O/S that's going to face the public Internet hosting IIS, otherwise, you'll just be putting up hack bait.
My System Specs

08-21-2008	#10 (permalink)
BillD n/a posts	RE: Is Vista capable of serving as a server such as web, mail, and DNS "Boku" wrote: Quote: > Dear all, > 1. Can Vista Biz be or is the capability enough to do web server? Vista Home Premium+ has IIS7 which is a web server. It's not installed by default, but you can install it: click the Start button , click "Control Panel", click Programs, and then click "Turn Windows features on or off"
My System Specs

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