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Old 08-22-2008   #1 (permalink)
98 Guy
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Does Vista use a file system when burning CD's that XP can't read?

If files are copied (drag'n'dropped) to a CD-R while using Vista, are
those files accessible if the CD is put into an XP machine? I've heard
of some first-hand accounts where this seems to be the case.

Does Vista use a file system on burned CD's or DVD's that XP can't read?

If so, does Micro$oft provide a driver for XP to be able to read them?

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Old 08-22-2008   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Does Vista use a file system when burning CD's that XP can't read?


Vista usage UDF file system for CD/DVDs...and you can read in earlier
version of Windows by choosing appropriate version of UDF while burning
discs

1.02 >> This format can be read on Windows 98 as well as many Apple
computers. You should use this version if you need to format DVD-RAM or
MO (Magneto-optical) discs.

1.5 >> This format is compatible with Windows 2000, Windows XP, and
Windows Server 2003. It might not be compatible with Windows 98 or Apple
computers.

2.01 >> This format is compatible with Windows XP and Windows Server
2003. It might not compatible with Windows 98, Windows 2000, or Apple
computers.

2.5 >> This format is designed for the latest version of Windows and
might not be compatible with earlier versions of Windows.


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Old 08-22-2008   #3 (permalink)
98 Guy
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Re: Does Vista use a file system when burning CD's that XP can't read?

Ramesh MVP wrote:
Quote:

> Vista usage UDF file system for CD/DVDs...and you can read in earlier
> version of Windows by choosing appropriate version of UDF while burning
> discs
>
> 1.02 >> This format can be read on Windows 98 as well as many Apple
> computers. You should use this version if you need to format DVD-RAM or
> MO (Magneto-optical) discs.
>
> 1.5 >> This format is compatible with Windows 2000, Windows XP, and
> Windows Server 2003. It might not be compatible with Windows 98 or Apple
> computers.
>
> 2.01 >> This format is compatible with Windows XP and Windows Server
> 2003. It might not compatible with Windows 98, Windows 2000, or Apple
> computers.
>
> 2.5 >> This format is designed for the latest version of Windows and
> might not be compatible with earlier versions of Windows.
So is the default setting 2.5?

Is it just me, or is this issue (and the potential for Vista -> XP
incompatibility) common knowledge?

Is there a benefit in using 2.5 vs 2.01, or did Microsoft do this
because it's their habbit of creating compatibility or
intra-operatbility problems with older windows versions?
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Old 08-22-2008   #4 (permalink)
Bob D.
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Re: Does Vista use a file system when burning CD's that XP can't read?

I think for regular CD's it's file system is CDFS. Not sure what they call
it for a DVD.

Bob


"98 Guy" <98@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:48AEB6A3.9E7FF78D@xxxxxx
Quote:

> If files are copied (drag'n'dropped) to a CD-R while using Vista, are
> those files accessible if the CD is put into an XP machine? I've heard
> of some first-hand accounts where this seems to be the case.
>
> Does Vista use a file system on burned CD's or DVD's that XP can't read?
>
> If so, does Micro$oft provide a driver for XP to be able to read them?
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Old 08-23-2008   #5 (permalink)
98 Guy
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Re: Does Vista use a file system when burning CD's that XP can't read?

Um, did none of you people catch the following information... ???

You're all going off on crazy-ass tangents. The following is the most
coherent explanation so far, but it does raise further questions:

Ramesh MVP wrote:
Quote:

> Vista usage UDF file system for CD/DVDs...and you can read in earlier
> version of Windows by choosing appropriate version of UDF while
> burning discs
>
> 1.02 >> This format can be read on Windows 98 as well as many Apple
> computers. You should use this version if you need to format DVD-RAM
> or MO (Magneto-optical) discs.
>
> 1.5 >> This format is compatible with Windows 2000, Windows XP, and
> Windows Server 2003. It might not be compatible with Windows 98 or
> Apple computers.
>
> 2.01 >> This format is compatible with Windows XP and Windows Server
> 2003. It might not compatible with Windows 98, Windows 2000, or Apple
> computers.
>
> 2.5 >> This format is designed for the latest version of Windows and
> might not be compatible with earlier versions of Windows.
And the following questions remain unanswered:

Is the default Vista setting to use UDF 2.5?

Is it just me, or is this issue (and the potential for Vista -> XP
incompatibility) common knowledge?

Is there a benefit in using 2.5 vs 2.01, or did Microsoft do this
because it's their habbit of creating compatibility or
intra-operatbility problems with older windows versions?
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Old 08-24-2008   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Does Vista use a file system when burning CD's that XP can't read?

Hi,

Yes this is tricky and I have not been able to find much in the way of useful instructions on it. However, I think I may have figured it out.

If you format the recordable write once disc as "mastered" : ( ISO format )

dragging or copying files into the disc drive folder copies them onto the hard drive. When you click the burn button they are copied to the disc. This has to be done in one go - you can't then add more files to the disc.

You do not need to "close" a mastered disc - eject it and it should be playable on all computers and cd/dvd players. Playable by XP of course.

If you format a write once recordable disc as "Live File System" (UDF format ) :

dragging or copying files into the disc folder copies them straight to the disc ( not to the hard drive ). When you have finished, click the x at the top right of the disc folder to shut the window, then eject the disc manually . You can later reinsert it in Vista and read it or continue to add files till it's full. (You can stop Vista from "closing" the disc automatically when you click eject on screen - go to dvd drive properties,global settings and uncheck it ). Athough you can delete files from the disc, it does not appear to give you that space back, i.e it is a multi -session disc, but not the same as a rewritable disc.

To make it playable in other computers ( only the ones that relate to that version of Live File System, obviously - for XP use version 1.5 or 2.01) you need to get Vista to "close" the disc. Insert disc, open the disc folder, right click the dvd drive and select "close session". As far as I can tell, you won't be able to play it on most standalone cd or dvd drives, however.

As to why there are several versions of this, I haven't yet worked out, but there must be advantages to the higher numbered versions or they wouldn't exist.

Also, I haven't yet figured out the sequence for using rewritable discs.


The above is for copying files - I suggest for music or video use Media Player or DVD Maker. Ashampoo Burning Studio 2008 is also good and it's free - when you first run it check "get full product key" which takes you to their website and they give you a free key. www.computeractive.co.uk/burningstudio/index ( ignore the date limitation - download still works )


This topic is crying out for a tutorial - any takers please ?

SIW2

Last edited by SIW2; 08-24-2008 at 08:00 AM..
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Old 08-24-2008   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Does Vista use a file system when burning CD's that XP can't read?

Hi,

The default option in the format menu is 2.01 - playable on xp machines, other versions can be easily selected from the drop down menu.

SIW2
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Old 09-18-2008   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Does Vista use a file system when burning CD's that XP can't read?

I am having the same problem trying to write a CD in Vista that my old Windows 98FE system can read.

My Vista only allows the CD to be formated in UDF versions 1.5 and higher, not in 1.02. Has anyone experience of a way arround this?

Any help hreatly appreciated
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Old 09-18-2008   #9 (permalink)
AJR
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Re: Does Vista use a file system when burning CD's that XP can't read?

CD format is a function of the DVD/CD ":burn" program.


"Yanker" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> I am having the same problem trying to write a CD in Vista that my old
> Windows 98FE system can read.
>
> My Vista only allows the CD to be formated in UDF versions 1.5 and
> higher, not in 1.02. Has anyone experience of a way arround this?
>
> Any help hreatly appreciated
>
>
> --
> Yanker

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Old 09-18-2008   #10 (permalink)
Patrick Keenan
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Re: Does Vista use a file system when burning CD's that XP can't read?


"Yanker" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
news:f26bbbf713cdc0d42617d207d04f098e@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
Quote:

>
> I am having the same problem trying to write a CD in Vista that my old
> Windows 98FE system can read.
>
> My Vista only allows the CD to be formated in UDF versions 1.5 and
> higher, not in 1.02. Has anyone experience of a way arround this?
>
> Any help hreatly appreciated
>
>
> --
> Yanker
Use another CD burning application that has more options. You can probably
find a trial version so you can be sure, and you may even find freeware.

HTH
-pk

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