Bitlocker installation?

I have been trying to install Bitlocker all day. I have had up to 3
partitions on my hard drive and a formatted USB drive attached to my pc and
cannot even get to where I can turn on Bitlocker. I have enabled Bitlocker
to work without TPM. Every time I go to the Bitlocker screen, my only option
is to "Set up hard drives to run Bitlocker" (or whatever the exact wording
is).

What am I doing wrong?

--
Thanks for your help!
Ben

I wish I had better advise than this: don't know. It took me about 4 tries
to get BitLocker working. I would have to assume that you've tried more than
4 times if you've been pounding on it all day... and I am using TPM, so
don't know if that makes a difference... good luck. For real.

Lang

"Ben" <Ben@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have been trying to install Bitlocker all day. I have had up to 3
> partitions on my hard drive and a formatted USB drive attached to my pc
> and
> cannot even get to where I can turn on Bitlocker. I have enabled
> Bitlocker
> to work without TPM. Every time I go to the Bitlocker screen, my only
> option
> is to "Set up hard drives to run Bitlocker" (or whatever the exact wording
> is).
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> --
> Thanks for your help!
> Ben

Hi,

I guess you performed the Windows Bitlocker as per the guide,
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/win...4d762cf31.mspx

Did you check for the group policy option, to enable to Allow BitLocker
without a compatible TPM ?

abc.

"Lang Murphy" wrote:

> I wish I had better advise than this: don't know. It took me about 4 tries
> to get BitLocker working. I would have to assume that you've tried more than
> 4 times if you've been pounding on it all day... and I am using TPM, so
> don't know if that makes a difference... good luck. For real.
>
> Lang
>
> "Ben" <Ben@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:87F99AD5-2BAF-4F6F-B79F-D473036FF6F4@microsoft.com...
> >I have been trying to install Bitlocker all day. I have had up to 3
> > partitions on my hard drive and a formatted USB drive attached to my pc
> > and
> > cannot even get to where I can turn on Bitlocker. I have enabled
> > Bitlocker
> > to work without TPM. Every time I go to the Bitlocker screen, my only
> > option
> > is to "Set up hard drives to run Bitlocker" (or whatever the exact wording
> > is).
> >
> > What am I doing wrong?
> >
> > --
> > Thanks for your help!
> > Ben
>

Thanks for your reponses so far.

Yes, I have gone through the "Step by step" guide and made multiple
partitions and allowed Bitlocker to run despite the lack of TPM on this PC
probably about 7 or so times now. Like I said earlier, I have at least 2
partitions on my drive and a USB drive and have even tried setting up 4
partitions and still every time I go to the Bitlocker screen, I get the same
link that says "Set up your hard drive to run Bitlocker"

This is the one feature I really want to check out before I decide on Vista
and at the moment, it's a big pain in the butt apparently.
--
Thanks for your help!
Ben


"abckid" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I guess you performed the Windows Bitlocker as per the guide,
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/win...4d762cf31.mspx
>
> Did you check for the group policy option, to enable to Allow BitLocker
> without a compatible TPM ?
>
> abc.
>
> "Lang Murphy" wrote:
>
> > I wish I had better advise than this: don't know. It took me about 4 tries
> > to get BitLocker working. I would have to assume that you've tried more than
> > 4 times if you've been pounding on it all day... and I am using TPM, so
> > don't know if that makes a difference... good luck. For real.
> >
> > Lang
> >
> > "Ben" <Ben@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:87F99AD5-2BAF-4F6F-B79F-D473036FF6F4@microsoft.com...
> > >I have been trying to install Bitlocker all day. I have had up to 3
> > > partitions on my hard drive and a formatted USB drive attached to my pc
> > > and
> > > cannot even get to where I can turn on Bitlocker. I have enabled
> > > Bitlocker
> > > to work without TPM. Every time I go to the Bitlocker screen, my only
> > > option
> > > is to "Set up hard drives to run Bitlocker" (or whatever the exact wording
> > > is).
> > >
> > > What am I doing wrong?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks for your help!
> > > Ben
> >

Hi Ben,
Please open "Disk Management":
Click on Start button
Right-click on "Computer" and click "Manage" to open "Computer Management"
Under the "Storage" heading, click "Disk Management"
Look under the "Status" column of all the disks, identify which disk says
"System", and which says "Boot"
The "System" and "Boot" volumes must be different volumes. If they are the
same volume, this will cause the error you are seeing.
The "System" volume must show as "Active", "Primary Partition" with the
"NTFS" File System. If this is not the case, you will get the error you are
seeing.
The "Boot" volume must show "Page File", "Crash Dump" with the "NTFS" File
System. This is most likely correct.

Please let me know what your findings are. Also let me know if you've
installed an additional OS after installing Vista.

Thanks!
--
Jamie Hunter [MS]

"Ben" <Ben@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:79B46AAE-A9B1-44C4-8461-E48EA9C4B56A@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for your reponses so far.
>
> Yes, I have gone through the "Step by step" guide and made multiple
> partitions and allowed Bitlocker to run despite the lack of TPM on this PC
> probably about 7 or so times now. Like I said earlier, I have at least 2
> partitions on my drive and a USB drive and have even tried setting up 4
> partitions and still every time I go to the Bitlocker screen, I get the
> same
> link that says "Set up your hard drive to run Bitlocker"
>
> This is the one feature I really want to check out before I decide on
> Vista
> and at the moment, it's a big pain in the butt apparently.
> --
> Thanks for your help!
> Ben
>
>
> "abckid" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I guess you performed the Windows Bitlocker as per the guide,
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/win...4d762cf31.mspx
>>
>> Did you check for the group policy option, to enable to Allow BitLocker
>> without a compatible TPM ?
>>
>> abc.
>>
>> "Lang Murphy" wrote:
>>
>> > I wish I had better advise than this: don't know. It took me about 4
>> > tries
>> > to get BitLocker working. I would have to assume that you've tried more
>> > than
>> > 4 times if you've been pounding on it all day... and I am using TPM, so
>> > don't know if that makes a difference... good luck. For real.
>> >
>> > Lang
>> >
>> > "Ben" <Ben@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:87F99AD5-2BAF-4F6F-B79F-D473036FF6F4@microsoft.com...
>> > >I have been trying to install Bitlocker all day. I have had up to 3
>> > > partitions on my hard drive and a formatted USB drive attached to my
>> > > pc
>> > > and
>> > > cannot even get to where I can turn on Bitlocker. I have enabled
>> > > Bitlocker
>> > > to work without TPM. Every time I go to the Bitlocker screen, my only
>> > > option
>> > > is to "Set up hard drives to run Bitlocker" (or whatever the exact
>> > > wording
>> > > is).
>> > >
>> > > What am I doing wrong?
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Thanks for your help!
>> > > Ben
>> >

The boot files cannot be on the same partition as the operating system for
the obvious reason that you cannot encrypt the loader.

If you have the boot files on the same partition as the operating system,
move them to a different partition and make that partition the active
partition. Simple way to get it working is boot the DVD in console prompt.
If you Vista install is on C: (first partition on the first drive), then you
could put the boot files on D: (2nd partition on the first drive). From the
console prompt, you'd just type in:
X:>xcopy c:\bootmgr d:\bootmgr /h /k
X:>xcopy c:\boot d:\boot /e /h /k /y

This will copy the files. You then used diskpart to make D: the active
partition:
X:>diskpart
>select disk 0
>select partition 2
>active
>exit


Finally, you use bcdedit to change the bcd:
X:>bcdedit /set {bootmgr} device partition=D:

Reboot, and you should be gold. I've done this a lot of times already
without any issues.

Other than that, I have run into the problem where BitLocker can't find the
encryption key on the USB thumbdrive. If you get that error, before
rebooting, open up a command prompt and change the attributes of the key
file so that it isn't hiddden.


"Ben" <Ben@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:87F99AD5-2BAF-4F6F-B79F-D473036FF6F4@microsoft.com...
>I have been trying to install Bitlocker all day. I have had up to 3
> partitions on my hard drive and a formatted USB drive attached to my pc
> and
> cannot even get to where I can turn on Bitlocker. I have enabled
> Bitlocker
> to work without TPM. Every time I go to the Bitlocker screen, my only
> option
> is to "Set up hard drives to run Bitlocker" (or whatever the exact wording
> is).
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> --
> Thanks for your help!
> Ben

Hope all the system builders get the word so they create their systems to
accomodate this requirement. Most consumers aren't going to be able to do
this and will at the least have to purchase a third party partitioning
product.


"Roberto Baggio" <baggio94@telus.net> wrote in message
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> The boot files cannot be on the same partition as the operating system for
> the obvious reason that you cannot encrypt the loader.
>
> If you have the boot files on the same partition as the operating system,
> move them to a different partition and make that partition the active
> partition. Simple way to get it working is boot the DVD in console
> prompt. If you Vista install is on C: (first partition on the first
> drive), then you could put the boot files on D: (2nd partition on the
> first drive). From the console prompt, you'd just type in:
> X:>xcopy c:\bootmgr d:\bootmgr /h /k
> X:>xcopy c:\boot d:\boot /e /h /k /y
>
> This will copy the files. You then used diskpart to make D: the active
> partition:
> X:>diskpart
>>select disk 0
>>select partition 2
>>active
>>exit
>
>
> Finally, you use bcdedit to change the bcd:
> X:>bcdedit /set {bootmgr} device partition=D:
>
> Reboot, and you should be gold. I've done this a lot of times already
> without any issues.
>
> Other than that, I have run into the problem where BitLocker can't find
> the encryption key on the USB thumbdrive. If you get that error, before
> rebooting, open up a command prompt and change the attributes of the key
> file so that it isn't hiddden.
>
>
> "Ben" <Ben@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:87F99AD5-2BAF-4F6F-B79F-D473036FF6F4@microsoft.com...
>>I have been trying to install Bitlocker all day. I have had up to 3
>> partitions on my hard drive and a formatted USB drive attached to my pc
>> and
>> cannot even get to where I can turn on Bitlocker. I have enabled
>> Bitlocker
>> to work without TPM. Every time I go to the Bitlocker screen, my only
>> option
>> is to "Set up hard drives to run Bitlocker" (or whatever the exact
>> wording
>> is).
>>
>> What am I doing wrong?
>>
>> --
>> Thanks for your help!
>> Ben
>
>

No 3rd party partitioning product required. If the user creates a single
volume on their hard disk, they can still use diskpart to shrink the volume
and create a second volume for the boot files. :-)

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
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> Hope all the system builders get the word so they create their systems to
> accomodate this requirement. Most consumers aren't going to be able to do
> this and will at the least have to purchase a third party partitioning
> product.

With only one volume, the volume will be the system and boot volume, and
according to hundreds of posts, you cannot shrink either.

"Roberto Baggio" <baggio94@telus.net> wrote in message
news:PtQQg.9819$5R2.2972@pd7urf3no...
> No 3rd party partitioning product required. If the user creates a single
> volume on their hard disk, they can still use diskpart to shrink the
> volume and create a second volume for the boot files. :-)
>
> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
> news:OK%230YyW3GHA.5040@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Hope all the system builders get the word so they create their systems to
>> accomodate this requirement. Most consumers aren't going to be able to
>> do this and will at the least have to purchase a third party partitioning
>> product.
>
>

Not true. I've done it a few times. Instead of typing out the
instructions, you can just follow the ones listed by this other person who
has done it. :-)

http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesp...ter_3F00_.aspx

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
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> With only one volume, the volume will be the system and boot volume, and
> according to hundreds of posts, you cannot shrink either.
>
> "Roberto Baggio" <baggio94@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:PtQQg.9819$5R2.2972@pd7urf3no...
>> No 3rd party partitioning product required. If the user creates a single
>> volume on their hard disk, they can still use diskpart to shrink the
>> volume and create a second volume for the boot files. :-)
>>
>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
>> news:OK%230YyW3GHA.5040@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Hope all the system builders get the word so they create their systems
>>> to accomodate this requirement. Most consumers aren't going to be able
>>> to do this and will at the least have to purchase a third party
>>> partitioning product.
>>
>>
>
>