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Old 09-16-2008   #1 (permalink)
Norbert Aquende


 
 

will readyboost/superfetch degrade performance on a pc w/o paging file?

I have a vista with 4gb ram and paging file disabled for performance
benefits. would using readyboost degrade my performance since it is using
flash media as cache or is it fast enough to even improve performance?
Is there a specific class of flash storage speed that i shoud use to realize
improved performance with the current configuration of my pc?


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Old 09-16-2008   #2 (permalink)
Synapse Syndrome


 
 

Re: will readyboost/superfetch degrade performance on a pc w/o paging file?

"Norbert Aquende" <norbs888@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

>I have a vista with 4gb ram and paging file disabled for performance
>benefits. would using readyboost degrade my performance since it is using
>flash media as cache or is it fast enough to even improve performance?
> Is there a specific class of flash storage speed that i shoud use to
> realize improved performance with the current configuration of my pc?

Unless you are doing some serious multitasking with some heavyweight apps
and/or have a some virtual machines running, I reckon all it would do is
actually slow your computer down. That is what it seemed to do for me,
anyway.

I had the feeling it even slowed my computer down with only 2GB and lots of
large apps running (CAD, 3D and graphics apps open all at the same time,
with large files), but I do have WD Raptors, in RAID-0.

ReadyBoost is only worth thinking about with very small amounts of RAM (like
1GB). Proper RAM is much faster.

ss.


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Old 09-16-2008   #3 (permalink)
Mike Hall - MVP


 
 

Re: will readyboost/superfetch degrade performance on a pc w/o paging file?

"Norbert Aquende" <norbs888@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

>I have a vista with 4gb ram and paging file disabled for performance
>benefits. would using readyboost degrade my performance since it is using
>flash media as cache or is it fast enough to even improve performance?
> Is there a specific class of flash storage speed that i shoud use to
> realize improved performance with the current configuration of my pc?

Unless your computer is set to do only one repetitive task, and space is at
a premium, there is no point in disabling the paging file.

For general use across multiple applications and functions, set the page
file to be system managed.

Turning off the paging file and then employing a flash drive in Readyboost
mode is not the way to go.


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Old 09-16-2008   #4 (permalink)
gls858


 
 

Re: will readyboost/superfetch degrade performance on a pc w/o pagingfile?

Norbert Aquende wrote:
Quote:

> I have a vista with 4gb ram and paging file disabled for performance
> benefits. would using readyboost degrade my performance since it is
> using flash media as cache or is it fast enough to even improve
> performance?
> Is there a specific class of flash storage speed that i shoud use to
> realize improved performance with the current configuration of my pc?
Most info indicates that readyboost only increases performance on PC
with less that 1 gig of RAM.
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Old 09-16-2008   #5 (permalink)
Ken Blake, MVP


 
 

Re: will readyboost/superfetch degrade performance on a pc w/o paging file?

On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:50:40 +0800, "Norbert Aquende"
<norbs888@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

> I have a vista with 4gb ram and paging file disabled for performance
> benefits.

Disabling the page file will *not* improve performance.

1. If you don't have a page file, you can't use all the RAM you have.
That's because Windows preallocates virtual memory in anticipation of
a possible need for it, even though that allocated virtual memory may
never be used. Without a page file, that allocation has to be made in
real memory, thus tying up that memory and preventing it from being
used for any purpose.

2. There is never a benefit in not having a page file. If it isn't
needed, it won't be used. Don't confuse allocated memory with used
memory.

Quote:

> would using readyboost degrade my performance

No.

Quote:

> since it is using
> flash media as cache or is it fast enough to even improve performance?

With that much RAM, it's highly unlikely that Readyboost will ever
improve performance at all. In my view, it hardly ever does anything
for someone who has as much as 2GB of RAM. And if you have less than
2GB, almost anyone would do better by spending the money for
additional RAM rather than a Readyboost device. I think Readyboost is
almost always a poor choice of things to do.


Quote:

> Is there a specific class of flash storage speed that i shoud use to realize
> improved performance with the current configuration of my pc?
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Old 09-16-2008   #6 (permalink)
Theory of Everything


 
 

Re: will readyboost/superfetch degrade performance on a pc w/o paging file?

> ReadyBoost is only worth thinking about with very small amounts of RAM
Quote:

> (like 1GB).
small amounts of ram... 1gb???????

See what Vista has us thinking now????? lol

Crap, that OS crawls with anything less than 2gb ram, and the 32bit version
can take up to 2.5 - 3.5 maximum depending on your hardware...

BOY VISTA SUCKS!

If you go ahead and claim that ram is cheap, please be ready to donate $20 -
$30 dollars per computer of the whole world with one or less gb of ram,
since that's what they will have to pay to get vista to not crawl.

Sure its not much, but if you think of it in a large scale.. well people
will not do it because of money limitations, or they are plain bored, or
they might not even know that such a thing is possible!
*yes there are people that don't know anything technical, they just start
the computer and work, or at least they TRY to work with vista...*

lol vista sucks for one more reason!



"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> "Norbert Aquende" <norbs888@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:F3E10110-6742-42AB-BB2F-DD1C98487DC4@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>I have a vista with 4gb ram and paging file disabled for performance
>>benefits. would using readyboost degrade my performance since it is using
>>flash media as cache or is it fast enough to even improve performance?
>> Is there a specific class of flash storage speed that i shoud use to
>> realize improved performance with the current configuration of my pc?
>
>
> Unless you are doing some serious multitasking with some heavyweight apps
> and/or have a some virtual machines running, I reckon all it would do is
> actually slow your computer down. That is what it seemed to do for me,
> anyway.
>
> I had the feeling it even slowed my computer down with only 2GB and lots
> of large apps running (CAD, 3D and graphics apps open all at the same
> time, with large files), but I do have WD Raptors, in RAID-0.
>
> ReadyBoost is only worth thinking about with very small amounts of RAM
> (like 1GB). Proper RAM is much faster.
>
> ss.
>
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Old 09-17-2008   #7 (permalink)
Jan Hyde (VB MVP)


 
 

Re: will readyboost/superfetch degrade performance on a pc w/o paging file?

"Norbert Aquende" <norbs888@xxxxxx>'s wild thoughts were
released on Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:50:40 +0800 bearing the
following fruit:
Quote:

>I have a vista with 4gb ram and paging file disabled for performance
>benefits. would using readyboost degrade my performance since it is using
>flash media as cache or is it fast enough to even improve performance?
>Is there a specific class of flash storage speed that i shoud use to realize
>improved performance with the current configuration of my pc?
I tried readyboost on my 4gb machine and my 2gb machine.

In the former case I noticed no difference, in the latter
there was a big improvement, although you only really notice
it with ram intensive software.


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