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Old 09-22-2008   #1 (permalink)
Franz


 
 

Vista Search does not find start menu entries

Hi,

Vista Search does not find Start Menu entries by typing parts of the
name in the search box.

For example, if I type "Mail", Vista does not find Windows Mail or
Windows Live Mail (both are installed).
If I Type "Windows", then Windows Mail is found, but not Windows Live
Mail.

Other Example:
Foto Gallery (I use the German Version "Windows-Fotogalerie") is found
by typing "fotog", but not by typing "foto".

The strange thing is, that it did work before. On my other Vista
computer it's working fine too.

I checked the indexing settings to be sure that the start menu is
indexed. I already did rebuilding the index.

Does anyone experience the same or does anyone has a hint for me?

Thanks,
Franz

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-22-2008   #2 (permalink)
Josh


 
 

Re: Vista Search does not find start menu entries

Strangely enough I have only just been noticing this myself over the last
couple weeks and its a pain. I also rebuilt the index and it made it a bit
better temporarily, but then same thing happened again.

I get the exact same things you mention. Additionally even typing things
like "windows live photo gallery" gives me nothing but images as my results.


Josh





"Franz" <graf.franz@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:84ab1957-3b12-4df0-b7d1-71a8ca948bce@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi,
>
> Vista Search does not find Start Menu entries by typing parts of the
> name in the search box.
>
> For example, if I type "Mail", Vista does not find Windows Mail or
> Windows Live Mail (both are installed).
> If I Type "Windows", then Windows Mail is found, but not Windows Live
> Mail.
>
> Other Example:
> Foto Gallery (I use the German Version "Windows-Fotogalerie") is found
> by typing "fotog", but not by typing "foto".
>
> The strange thing is, that it did work before. On my other Vista
> computer it's working fine too.
>
> I checked the indexing settings to be sure that the start menu is
> indexed. I already did rebuilding the index.
>
> Does anyone experience the same or does anyone has a hint for me?
>
> Thanks,
> Franz
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-22-2008   #3 (permalink)
Spirit


 
 

Re: Vista Search does not find start menu entries

Right Click START BUTTON - Properties - Start Menu Tab - Start Menu
Customize - look at all the Search Settings.

"Josh" <hethatsomecallstupid@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:F31BC7A5-2C9D-4B75-9898-5F89C4F55742@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Strangely enough I have only just been noticing this myself over the last
> couple weeks and its a pain. I also rebuilt the index and it made it a bit
> better temporarily, but then same thing happened again.
>
> I get the exact same things you mention. Additionally even typing things
> like "windows live photo gallery" gives me nothing but images as my results.
>
>
> Josh
>
>
>
>
>
> "Franz" <graf.franz@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:84ab1957-3b12-4df0-b7d1-71a8ca948bce@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Hi,
>>
>> Vista Search does not find Start Menu entries by typing parts of the
>> name in the search box.
>>
>> For example, if I type "Mail", Vista does not find Windows Mail or
>> Windows Live Mail (both are installed).
>> If I Type "Windows", then Windows Mail is found, but not Windows Live
>> Mail.
>>
>> Other Example:
>> Foto Gallery (I use the German Version "Windows-Fotogalerie") is found
>> by typing "fotog", but not by typing "foto".
>>
>> The strange thing is, that it did work before. On my other Vista
>> computer it's working fine too.
>>
>> I checked the indexing settings to be sure that the start menu is
>> indexed. I already did rebuilding the index.
>>
>> Does anyone experience the same or does anyone has a hint for me?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Franz
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-22-2008   #4 (permalink)
Franz


 
 

Re: Vista Search does not find start menu entries

The search settings are configured to search the whole index.

On 22 Sep., 14:22, "Spirit" <no...@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

> Right Click START BUTTON - Properties - Start Menu Tab - Start Menu
> Customize - look at all the Search Settings.
>
> "Josh" <hethatsomecallstu...@xxxxxx> wrote in messagenews:F31BC7A5-2C9D-4B75-9898-5F89C4F55742@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Strangely enough I have only just been noticing this myself over the last
> > couple weeks and its a pain. I also rebuilt the index and it made it a bit
> > better temporarily, but then same thing happened again.
>
Quote:

> > I get the exact same things you mention. Additionally even typing things
> > like "windows live photo gallery" gives me nothing but images as my results.
>
Quote:

> > Josh
>
Quote:

> > "Franz" <graf.fr...@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >news:84ab1957-3b12-4df0-b7d1-71a8ca948bce@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >> Hi,
>
Quote:
Quote:

> >> Vista Search does not find Start Menu entries by typing parts of the
> >> name in the search box.
>
Quote:
Quote:

> >> For example, if I type "Mail", Vista does not find Windows Mail or
> >> Windows Live Mail (both are installed).
> >> If I Type "Windows", then Windows Mail is found, but not Windows Live
> >> Mail.
>
Quote:
Quote:

> >> Other Example:
> >> Foto Gallery (I use the German Version "Windows-Fotogalerie") is found
> >> by typing "fotog", but not by typing "foto".
>
Quote:
Quote:

> >> The strange thing is, that it did work before. On my other Vista
> >> computer it's working fine too.
>
Quote:
Quote:

> >> I checked the indexing settings to be sure that the start menu is
> >> indexed. I already did rebuilding the index.
>
Quote:
Quote:

> >> Does anyone experience the same or does anyone has a hint for me?
>
Quote:
Quote:

> >> Thanks,
> >> Franz
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-22-2008   #5 (permalink)
Spirit


 
 

Re: Vista Search does not find start menu entries

Set to Search All Files - Set to Search this User's Programs

"Franz" <graf.franz@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:b08d146d-072c-4c85-b197-228954998e0a@xxxxxx
Quote:

> The search settings are configured to search the whole index.
>
> On 22 Sep., 14:22, "Spirit" <no...@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>> Right Click START BUTTON - Properties - Start Menu Tab - Start Menu
>> Customize - look at all the Search Settings.
>>
>> "Josh" <hethatsomecallstu...@xxxxxx> wrote in messagenews:F31BC7A5-2C9D-4B75-9898-5F89C4F55742@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > Strangely enough I have only just been noticing this myself over the last
>> > couple weeks and its a pain. I also rebuilt the index and it made it a bit
>> > better temporarily, but then same thing happened again.
>>
Quote:

>> > I get the exact same things you mention. Additionally even typing things
>> > like "windows live photo gallery" gives me nothing but images as my results.
>>
Quote:

>> > Josh
>>
Quote:

>> > "Franz" <graf.fr...@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >news:84ab1957-3b12-4df0-b7d1-71a8ca948bce@xxxxxx
>> >> Hi,
>>
Quote:

>> >> Vista Search does not find Start Menu entries by typing parts of the
>> >> name in the search box.
>>
Quote:

>> >> For example, if I type "Mail", Vista does not find Windows Mail or
>> >> Windows Live Mail (both are installed).
>> >> If I Type "Windows", then Windows Mail is found, but not Windows Live
>> >> Mail.
>>
Quote:

>> >> Other Example:
>> >> Foto Gallery (I use the German Version "Windows-Fotogalerie") is found
>> >> by typing "fotog", but not by typing "foto".
>>
Quote:

>> >> The strange thing is, that it did work before. On my other Vista
>> >> computer it's working fine too.
>>
Quote:

>> >> I checked the indexing settings to be sure that the start menu is
>> >> indexed. I already did rebuilding the index.
>>
Quote:

>> >> Does anyone experience the same or does anyone has a hint for me?
>>
Quote:

>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Franz
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-22-2008   #6 (permalink)
Jon


 
 

Re: Vista Search does not find start menu entries

Unfortunately there are at least 7 other places (at a rough count) to
configure Search within Vista, in addition to the Start menu settings you
mentioned (although that's a good Start if you can excuse the pun).

Here's 2 of those to get you started ....

Open any folder > Organize > Folder and Search options > Search
(eg Partial matches, Natural language searching ... )

Control Panel > Indexing options
(eg Has indexing finished? + diacritic settings etc)

--
Jon


"Franz" <graf.franz@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:84ab1957-3b12-4df0-b7d1-71a8ca948bce@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi,
>
> Vista Search does not find Start Menu entries by typing parts of the
> name in the search box.
>
> For example, if I type "Mail", Vista does not find Windows Mail or
> Windows Live Mail (both are installed).
> If I Type "Windows", then Windows Mail is found, but not Windows Live
> Mail.
>
> Other Example:
> Foto Gallery (I use the German Version "Windows-Fotogalerie") is found
> by typing "fotog", but not by typing "foto".
>
> The strange thing is, that it did work before. On my other Vista
> computer it's working fine too.
>
> I checked the indexing settings to be sure that the start menu is
> indexed. I already did rebuilding the index.
>
> Does anyone experience the same or does anyone has a hint for me?
>
> Thanks,
> Franz
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-22-2008   #7 (permalink)
Josh


 
 

Re: Vista Search does not find start menu entries

Yeah I know that. But why would something like "calen" get only the Windows
Calendar, "calendar" get nothing and Live Calendar not show up at all?



"Spirit" <noone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:e85li3KHJHA.2156@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Right Click START BUTTON - Properties - Start Menu Tab - Start Menu
> Customize - look at all the Search Settings.
>
> "Josh" <hethatsomecallstupid@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:F31BC7A5-2C9D-4B75-9898-5F89C4F55742@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Strangely enough I have only just been noticing this myself over the last
>> couple weeks and its a pain. I also rebuilt the index and it made it a
>> bit
>> better temporarily, but then same thing happened again.
>>
>> I get the exact same things you mention. Additionally even typing things
>> like "windows live photo gallery" gives me nothing but images as my
>> results.
>>
>>
>> Josh
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Franz" <graf.franz@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:84ab1957-3b12-4df0-b7d1-71a8ca948bce@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Vista Search does not find Start Menu entries by typing parts of the
>>> name in the search box.
>>>
>>> For example, if I type "Mail", Vista does not find Windows Mail or
>>> Windows Live Mail (both are installed).
>>> If I Type "Windows", then Windows Mail is found, but not Windows Live
>>> Mail.
>>>
>>> Other Example:
>>> Foto Gallery (I use the German Version "Windows-Fotogalerie") is found
>>> by typing "fotog", but not by typing "foto".
>>>
>>> The strange thing is, that it did work before. On my other Vista
>>> computer it's working fine too.
>>>
>>> I checked the indexing settings to be sure that the start menu is
>>> indexed. I already did rebuilding the index.
>>>
>>> Does anyone experience the same or does anyone has a hint for me?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Franz
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-22-2008   #8 (permalink)
Franz


 
 

Re: Vista Search does not find start menu entries

Well, thanks for answering my thread. I solved it by turning off
Natural language searching.

@Josh: does it help you too?


On 22 Sep., 17:16, "Josh" <hethatsomecallstu...@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

> Yeah I know that. But why would something like "calen" get only the Windows
> Calendar, "calendar" get nothing and Live Calendar not show up at all?
>
> "Spirit" <no...@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>
> news:e85li3KHJHA.2156@xxxxxx
>
Quote:

> > Right Click START BUTTON - Properties - Start Menu Tab - Start Menu
> > Customize - look at all the Search Settings.
>
Quote:

> > "Josh" <hethatsomecallstu...@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >news:F31BC7A5-2C9D-4B75-9898-5F89C4F55742@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >> Strangely enough I have only just been noticing this myself over the last
> >> couple weeks and its a pain. I also rebuilt the index and it made it a
> >> bit
> >> better temporarily, but then same thing happened again.
>
Quote:
Quote:

> >> I get the exact same things you mention. Additionally even typing things
> >> like "windows live photo gallery" gives me nothing but images as my
> >> results.
>
Quote:
Quote:

> >> Josh
>
Quote:
Quote:

> >> "Franz" <graf.fr...@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>news:84ab1957-3b12-4df0-b7d1-71a8ca948bce@xxxxxx
> >>> Hi,
>
Quote:
Quote:

> >>> Vista Search does not find Start Menu entries by typing parts of the
> >>> name in the search box.
>
Quote:
Quote:

> >>> For example, if I type "Mail", Vista does not find Windows Mail or
> >>> Windows Live Mail (both are installed).
> >>> If I Type "Windows", then Windows Mail is found, but not Windows Live
> >>> Mail.
>
Quote:
Quote:

> >>> Other Example:
> >>> Foto Gallery (I use the German Version "Windows-Fotogalerie") is found
> >>> by typing "fotog", but not by typing "foto".
>
Quote:
Quote:

> >>> The strange thing is, that it did work before. On my other Vista
> >>> computer it's working fine too.
>
Quote:
Quote:

> >>> I checked the indexing settings to be sure that the start menu is
> >>> indexed. I already did rebuilding the index.
>
Quote:
Quote:

> >>> Does anyone experience the same or does anyone has a hint for me?
>
Quote:
Quote:

> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Franz
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-23-2008   #9 (permalink)
+Bob+


 
 

Re: Vista Search does not find start menu entries

On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:07:26 -0700 (PDT), Franz <graf.franz@xxxxxx>
wrote:
Quote:

>Well, thanks for answering my thread. I solved it by turning off
>Natural language searching.
>
>@Josh: does it help you too?
Just turn off the whole friggin POS Vista search. Google "Agent
Ransack" for an alternative.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-23-2008   #10 (permalink)
Paul Montgumdrop


 
 

Re: Vista Search does not find start menu entries

+Bob+ wrote:
Quote:

> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:07:26 -0700 (PDT), Franz <graf.franz@xxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Well, thanks for answering my thread. I solved it by turning off
>> Natural language searching.
>>
>> @Josh: does it help you too?
>
> Just turn off the whole friggin POS Vista search. Google "Agent
> Ransack" for an alternative.
Hopefully, the NG moderators will see the wisdom of just killing your
posts out of the gate in the long run. I had no problems is doing what
the OP was trying to do, and besides, the the OP got his problem
answered and solved the problem.

You are simply a *clown*. No one and I mean no one should pay attention
to a negative *clown* like you, period. The *clown* has got a wild hair
up his butt about *searching*. :-P
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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