anyone know?

Carey Frisch [MVP] <cnfrisch@xxxxxx> wrote:

<newbie top-posting macro corrected>

>
> Sure, but you'll need a HD compliant video adapter and HD monitor to
> view HD resolution.

Er, moron, who has a graphics card that is not capable of displaying
1280×720 (720p) or 1920×1080 (1080p) these days?

Most monitors can easily display these resolutions as well.

So what are you on about? Mistakingly referring to HDCP enabled graphics
cards and monitors for viewing DRM protected content? From a camcorder?
Even Hollywood films are not going to be protected until 2010, according to
some sources.

ss.

"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> who has a graphics card that is not capable of displaying 1280×720 (720p)
> or 1920×1080 (1080p) these days?

To quote an excellent post by Josh L in a UI development thread:
"... 800x600 is still supported in Vista, and many users, particularly those
with poor vision or smaller monitors, will continue to use 800x600"

If you don't target the lowest supported resolution as a key scenario,
you'll potentially disable those users, since buttons may get clipped
off-screen. Playing around with tiny resolutions and high DPI (plus
contrast and other key accessibility features) is pretty fascinating.

-Zach
--
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See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
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zachd [MSFT] <zachd@xxxxxx> wrote:

>

> > who has a graphics card that is not capable of displaying 1280720
> > (720p) or 19201080 (1080p) these days?

>
> To quote an excellent post by Josh L in a UI development thread:
> "... 800x600 is still supported in Vista, and many users, particularly
> those with poor vision or smaller monitors, will continue to use 800x600"
>
> If you don't target the lowest supported resolution as a key scenario,
> you'll potentially disable those users, since buttons may get clipped
> off-screen. Playing around with tiny resolutions and high DPI (plus
> contrast and other key accessibility features) is pretty fascinating.

Heh, but using Vista at 800x600 would be ridiculous. Just the Start Menu
would take up almost the whole screen, and as for the MS Office ribbon
toolbars....

ss.

"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Heh, but using Vista at 800x600 would be ridiculous. Just the Start Menu
> would take up almost the whole screen, and as for the MS Office ribbon
> toolbars....

As soon as I saw "heh" I realized we were on the same page. =) It is kind
of funny in a sad way, but it really is a pretty key scenario and a really
important one to get right. For an ever more eye-popping accessibility
concern, look into High Contrast.

Pretty much all dialogs should be functional at 800x600, even if it looks
painful to use. Now imagine ~debugging~ those near-full-screen dialogs in
800x600. =\

Beyond that -- since most novice users don't adjust their resolution --
people may accidentally be in low-resolution modes. That would make my eyes
bleed, but -- =\

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

zachd [MSFT] <zachd@xxxxxx> wrote:

>

> > Heh, but using Vista at 800x600 would be ridiculous. Just the Start
> > Menu would take up almost the whole screen, and as for the MS Office
> > ribbon toolbars....

>
> As soon as I saw "heh" I realized we were on the same page. =) It is
> kind of funny in a sad way, but it really is a pretty key scenario and
> a really important one to get right. For an ever more eye-popping
> accessibility concern, look into High Contrast.
>
> Pretty much all dialogs should be functional at 800x600, even if it looks
> painful to use. Now imagine ~debugging~ those near-full-screen dialogs
> in 800x600. =\

You could always use dual monitors for that? One for the low-resolution
testing, and one for working?

> Beyond that -- since most novice users don't adjust their resolution --
> people may accidentally be in low-resolution modes. That would make my
> eyes bleed, but -- =\

I found that just adjusting the DPI was fine when I set up a new laptop for
my grandmother. She uses it for email and Skype (with webcam).

(I have also use Windows SteadyState on it, while pointing the Desktop, Doc
Folders and %appdata% to another, unlocked, partition, with Juntion Points.
It works perfectly. I can even dial-in using Remote Desktop into the Admin
account, to install software, commit changes, etc. It's a great way to have
older people use laptops with absolutely no problems or worries. I could
make it a business, come to think of it..)

ss.