"Chuck" <cdkuder@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> All I can say to this is that MANY of the "leading" OEM laptops sold in
> the fall/winter of 2007 do not run Vista well.
> 1. First problem -- Processor and memory speeds & amount of memory. (Most
> laptops use part of System RAM for Video RAM, and it may be a significant
> amount.)
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While my system isn't a laptop, it is a Q6600 quad processor and 8GB of RAM
with 2 500GB SATA drives. And it is pig slow at network and disk to disk
copy.
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> 2. Video and sound drivers (combined with "dual core" processors ) Quite
> a few of the laptops develop "stuttering" that is usually sound, although
> some also have the same problem with video. Seems that the affected
> laptops were released with 32bit Vista versions, and there was no upgrade
> path to 64bit, due to lack of drivers. The Video drivers are just now
> being updated enough to permit fair (low option) game play of the newer
> graphics intensive games. DX10 is another issue in the same general area.
> The "Classic" mode seems to be almost mandatory if reasonable speed is to
> be maintained.
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A flaw in Vista's design. You shouldn't need a super computer to run the
graphics. And they are not without issues either, noisy fans, heat, power,
drivers...
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> 3. An additional problem is that win XP drivers may not be available for
> these laptops.
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Actually, they usually are. It would be more accurate to state your vendor
does not want to support their use and isn't telling you where to get them.
For example, I go to Intel and slip stream in the XP drivers and back to
much faster XP. But the vendor will not tell you that as a rule. Probably
because of their M$ agreements and predatory pricing.
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> I believe that XP should have one more "final" release, fully patched &
> SP'd, and be available to the public as either a "downgrade", or an
> upgrade/refresh for existing systems.
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Agreed. But for customers to get what they want a few ego's at M$ need to
be fixed.
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> "the granter of sina" <granter@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> MS knows Vista is crap lol
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>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1619
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>> Microsoft is sending some very confusing signals about Windows Vista -
>> the latest of which it issued via a statement on October 3.
>>
>> The Register reported on October 2 that Microsoft was going to extend
>> again the date until which PC makers would be allowed to continue to
>> offer Windows users "downgrade rights," enabling them to switch from
>> Vista to XP on new machines. The Reg said Microsoft had moved the
>> downgrade cut-off date from January 31, 2009 to July 31, 2009.
>>
>> I asked Microsoft about the Reg's report and got this statement, via a
>> company spokesperson:
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>> "As more customers make the move to Windows Vista, we want to make
>> sure that they are making that transition with confidence and that it is
>> as smooth as possible. Providing downgrade media for a few more months is
>> part of that commitment, as is the Windows Vista Small Business Assurance
>> program (available in the U.S. only), which provides 1-on-1, customized
>> support for our small business customers."
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>> In other words, the Reg's story was correct.
>>
>> The spokesperson sent further clarification:
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>> "What's changing is Microsoft is giving six more months where it will
>> provide downgrade media for XP Professional for OEMs and system builders
>> to provide to their customers who purchase Windows Vista Ultimate and
>> Business editions - (which the company figures will be) largely going to
>> be small businesses since that's the audience that would want/use XP Pro.
>> So it's the same old downgrade right thing that was in the EULA (End User
>> License Agreement) before; it's just Microsoft is providing the media to
>> partners a few months more."
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>> "The same caveat with providing the downgrade media as before
>> applies, which is OEMs and system builders don't have to do so if they
>> don't want - it's their business decision to make."
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>> Microsoft has extended XP's end-of-life date before. In Apri 2008 l,
>> Microsoft officials said the company was not going to extend again the
>> date on which it required OEMs to stop preloading XP on new machines.
>> That date was June 30, 2008. Microsoft did say that system builders, a k
>> a white box vendors, would be allowed to continue to preload XP on new
>> systems until January 31, 2009. OEMs and system builders both were OK'd
>> to continue preloading XP on new ultra-low-cost systems through 2010, as
>> many of those systems were and are incapable of running Vista.
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>> Bottom line: Even though Microsoft is maintaining publicly that Vista is
>> finally ready for prime time, it is allowing PC makers to continue to
>> offer customers XP. So what's a user to believe? Is Microsoft really
>> standing behind Vista? And if it's not - but instead is doing what
>> customers really want (while simply giving lip-service to Vista's
>> readiness - is that still a positive? | | | | | >
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10-04-2008
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