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Old 10-04-2008   #11 (permalink)
D. Eth


 
 

Re: Repair install?

"Mike" <mikey117@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> "Paul Montgumdrop" <Paul@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uNoNQAoJJHA.728@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Mike wrote:
Quote:

>>> "SIW2" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
>>> news:e91006567437b6d94914636f0ebf40c8@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
>>>> Mike;852717 Wrote:
>>>>> I am running Vista Home Premium & can't get the thing to boot to
>>>>> Windows.
>>>>> I might get as far as the progress bar running across the bottom of
>>>>> the
>>>>> screen, but it will inevitably reboot, never getting all the was to
>>>>> the
>>>>> log
>>>>> in screen.
>>>>> I have been trying various restore points after booting from the DVD &
>>>>> selecting the Repair My Computer option, but none of them has worked.
>>>>> Is there a repair install option?
>>>>> I have an OEM version & there seems to be mixed answers out there.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mr. Simpson, there are thousands of people like you with no
>>>>> discernable
>>>>> talent.
>>>>> Yeah, they're called Congress.
>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>
>>>> If you have a MS dvd, with the hologram, then either the retail or oem
>>>> version will be fine to do this
>>>>
>>>> Repair Install For Vista
>>>>
>>>> ( tho you don't need the product key to do this, make sure you have it
>>>> anyway - it's probably on a sticker on your machine - if not, and you
>>>> need to get it from your hd
>>>> Product Key Number )
>>>>
>>>> If you have a recovery dvd sent with your computer , most have very
>>>> limited options. ( However Dell have recently been shipping what appear
>>>> to be straight copies of the MS dvd ). If you have one of these , you
>>>> need to check what is on it.
>>>>
>>>> Put the dvd in the drive, right click the dvd drive and select Open -
>>>> if there's just one big folder, double click that to open it. With any
>>>> luck you will have these files
>>>>
>>>> 7046
>>>>
>>>> - you may want to take a jpeg screenshot and post it back, if you're in
>>>> doubt
>>>>
>>>> How to use the Snipping Tool in Vista
>>>>
>>>> Hope that helps
>>>>
>>>> SIW2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
>>>> |Filename: VISTADVDFILES2008-09-17_022154.jpg |
>>>> |Download: http://www.vistax64.com/attachment.p...achmentid=7046 |
>>>> +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> SIW2
>>>
>>> From the link:
>>> 1. Insert the Vista DVD into the DVD drive while your current Vista is
>>> running.
>>>
>>> Did I mention that it won't boot to windows?
>>
>> Then you don't have a retail version of the install DVD where you can
>> boot off the DVD retail version that has the other Repair/Restore
>> options. And that's a DVD that you would put into the drive trey, change
>> the BIOS settings to boot from the DVD. The current Vista would not be
>> running, as computer would be booting off of the DVD, standalone.
>>
>
> I have an OEM version of Vista Home Premium.
> I can boot from the DVD & after making sure time, KB, language is right,
> hit next & chose 'repair my computer'.
> It finds the instakllation & is smart enough to tell me my computer was
> unable to start.
> Startup repair checks for problems & comes back telling me it can't
> automatically fix the problem.
> I then chose the advanced repair options, with system restore being the
> only logical one to try.
> I can pick each restore point & after trying , it will tell me it didn't
> complete successfully.
> Since I don't own a Vista computer myself, I took a blank drive &
> re-installed on that, thinking I could access original drive, copy docs,
> etc., re-install on original drive & copy files back, but whatever
> happened to the 30 days to activate?
> Since it gives me no choice but to activate if I want to get into Windows,
> I try to let it activate & it tells me the product key has already been
> activated!
> Any other suggestions?!?!?
>
>

Pull those last 2 sticks of RAM out that were added to the PC.
Or, run a memtest.
But if the not booting occured after adding that RAM, perhaps it is bad
RAM/mismatched.


--
Ens causa sui
Fit caedes omnibus locis


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-04-2008   #12 (permalink)


VISTA HOME PREMIUM X64/ 7 x64 / 7x86
 
 

Re: Repair install?

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Mike View Post
"SIW2" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
news:78af24190e2c55203cb45e6a3d0a6c7e@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
Quote:

>
> Mike;852717 Wrote:
Quote:

>> I am running Vista Home Premium & can't get the thing to boot to
>> Windows.
>> I might get as far as the progress bar running across the bottom of the
>> screen, but it will inevitably reboot, never getting all the was to the
>> log
>> in screen.
>> I have been trying various restore points after booting from the DVD &
>> selecting the Repair My Computer option, but none of them has worked.
>> Is there a repair install option?
>> I have an OEM version & there seems to be mixed answers out there.
>>
>> --
>> Mr. Simpson, there are thousands of people like you with no discernable
>> talent.
>> Yeah, they're called Congress.
>
> Sorry Mike,
>
> This is the correct link
>
> Startup Repair
>
> Tho it appears you have tried it already, not sure what dvd you have,
> or at what stage it failed - for example ( underneath the tutorial )
>
>
Quote:

>> Go ahead and click Next anyway.
>> Shawn
>
> If it works, then make sure you have prod. key for future use ( unless
> you have it already ).
>
> If that doesn't succeed, afraid I don't know a way of repairing if you
> can't get in - looks like it will have to be a reinstall. During the
> reinstall process it is possible to select the option to save your
> existing files into a folder called Windows.old - if you have things you
> can't afford to lose.
>
> Hope that helps
>
> SIW2
>
But with the OEM version & the fact that it sees an installation already
there, will it let me install again?
I'd hate to wipe out my docs, etc!
Hi Mike,

Yes I have reinstalled several times with oem dvd. You can only have one instance of same o/s with same prod. key running at a time, of course.

Not sure why you had to activate - there is an Activate automatically checkbox at the bottom of one the windows that appears during install - untick it if you want to activate manually later.

There is tutorial here

Clean Install with a Full Version of Vista

However, if you want to save the existing files on the drive to a Windows.old folder ( this is from memory - have only done this once, I normally do full clean reinstall ) - just remembered - believe it's only available if you start the process from your existing windows install.


You might like to get the free Paragon Drive Backup Express.

Drive Backup Express - Free Download!

You need to download, install - get free reg. key,. You can then image your installation to a second hd for future use. Also has the option to create bootable recovery media - leave default "typical" and burn as bootable .iso to a cd ( if you neded an app. to do that, get free The Official ImgBurn Website ). That allows you to boot into your pc and copy the partition / drive to your other hd.

Hope that helps

SIW2

Last edited by SIW2; 10-04-2008 at 11:34 PM..
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Old 10-04-2008   #13 (permalink)


VISTA HOME PREMIUM X64/ 7 x64 / 7x86
 
 

Re: Repair install?

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Mike View Post
"SIW2" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
news:78af24190e2c55203cb45e6a3d0a6c7e@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
Quote:

>
> Mike;852717 Wrote:>
> Sorry Mike,
>
> This is the correct link
>
> Startup Repair
>
> Tho it appears you have tried it already, not sure what dvd you have,
> or at what stage it failed - for example ( underneath the tutorial )
>
>>
> If it works, then make sure you have prod. key for future use ( unless
> you have it already ).
>
> If that doesn't succeed, afraid I don't know a way of repairing if you
> can't get in - looks like it will have to be a reinstall. During the
> reinstall process it is possible to select the option to save your
> existing files into a folder called Windows.old - if you have things you
> can't afford to lose.
>
> Hope that helps
>
> SIW2
>
But with the OEM version & the fact that it sees an installation already
there, will it let me install again?
I'd hate to wipe out my docs, etc!
Hi Mike,

Yes I have reinstalled several times with oem dvd. You can only have one instance of same o/s with same prod. key running at a time, of course.

Not sure why you had to activate - there is an Activate automatically checkbox at the bottom of one the windows that appears during install - untick it if you want to activate manually later.

There is tutorial here

Clean Install with a Full Version of Vista

However, if you want to save the existing files on the drive to a Windows.old folder ( this is from memory - have only done this once, I normally do full clean reinstall ) - just remembered - believe it's only available if you start the process from your existing windows install.


You might like to get the free Paragon Drive Backup Express.

Drive Backup Express - Free Download!

You need to download, install - get free reg. key,. You can then image your installation to a second hd for future use. Also has the option to create bootable recovery media - leave default "typical" and burn as bootable .iso to a cd ( if you neded an app. to do that, get free The Official ImgBurn Website ). That allows you to boot into your pc and copy the partition / drive to your other hd.

Hope that helps

SIW2
Hi,

As you can't boot into your existing Vista , seems you don't get the windows.old option? One way to get your data off the drive is with a bootable app. such as the one above. You could try reinstalling Vista on your second hd skipping the auto activate box, and disconnect from the net - to see if you can transfer your data as you planned. I have not tried this particular combination, but it's worth a go.

By the way I just made the Paragon recovery disc - it does it without any 3rd party iso burning software.

SIW2

Last edited by SIW2; 10-06-2008 at 02:01 PM.. Reason: Paragon recovery disc.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-05-2008   #14 (permalink)
Mike


 
 

Re: Repair install?

"D. Eth" <death@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:gc93f5$r5b$1@xxxxxx
Quote:

> "Mike" <mikey117@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uQIGKQoJJHA.3644@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> "Paul Montgumdrop" <Paul@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:uNoNQAoJJHA.728@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Mike wrote:
>>>> "SIW2" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:e91006567437b6d94914636f0ebf40c8@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
>>>>> Mike;852717 Wrote:
>>>>>> I am running Vista Home Premium & can't get the thing to boot to
>>>>>> Windows.
>>>>>> I might get as far as the progress bar running across the bottom of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> screen, but it will inevitably reboot, never getting all the was to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> log
>>>>>> in screen.
>>>>>> I have been trying various restore points after booting from the DVD
>>>>>> &
>>>>>> selecting the Repair My Computer option, but none of them has worked.
>>>>>> Is there a repair install option?
>>>>>> I have an OEM version & there seems to be mixed answers out there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Mr. Simpson, there are thousands of people like you with no
>>>>>> discernable
>>>>>> talent.
>>>>>> Yeah, they're called Congress.
>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have a MS dvd, with the hologram, then either the retail or oem
>>>>> version will be fine to do this
>>>>>
>>>>> Repair Install For Vista
>>>>>
>>>>> ( tho you don't need the product key to do this, make sure you have it
>>>>> anyway - it's probably on a sticker on your machine - if not, and you
>>>>> need to get it from your hd
>>>>> Product Key Number )
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have a recovery dvd sent with your computer , most have very
>>>>> limited options. ( However Dell have recently been shipping what
>>>>> appear
>>>>> to be straight copies of the MS dvd ). If you have one of these , you
>>>>> need to check what is on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Put the dvd in the drive, right click the dvd drive and select Open -
>>>>> if there's just one big folder, double click that to open it. With any
>>>>> luck you will have these files
>>>>>
>>>>> 7046
>>>>>
>>>>> - you may want to take a jpeg screenshot and post it back, if you're
>>>>> in
>>>>> doubt
>>>>>
>>>>> How to use the Snipping Tool in Vista
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope that helps
>>>>>
>>>>> SIW2
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
>>>>> |Filename: VISTADVDFILES2008-09-17_022154.jpg |
>>>>> |Download: http://www.vistax64.com/attachment.p...achmentid=7046 |
>>>>> +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> SIW2
>>>>
>>>> From the link:
>>>> 1. Insert the Vista DVD into the DVD drive while your current Vista is
>>>> running.
>>>>
>>>> Did I mention that it won't boot to windows?
>>>
>>> Then you don't have a retail version of the install DVD where you can
>>> boot off the DVD retail version that has the other Repair/Restore
>>> options. And that's a DVD that you would put into the drive trey,
>>> change the BIOS settings to boot from the DVD. The current Vista would
>>> not be running, as computer would be booting off of the DVD,
>>> standalone.
>>>
>>
>> I have an OEM version of Vista Home Premium.
>> I can boot from the DVD & after making sure time, KB, language is right,
>> hit next & chose 'repair my computer'.
>> It finds the instakllation & is smart enough to tell me my computer was
>> unable to start.
>> Startup repair checks for problems & comes back telling me it can't
>> automatically fix the problem.
>> I then chose the advanced repair options, with system restore being the
>> only logical one to try.
>> I can pick each restore point & after trying , it will tell me it didn't
>> complete successfully.
>> Since I don't own a Vista computer myself, I took a blank drive &
>> re-installed on that, thinking I could access original drive, copy docs,
>> etc., re-install on original drive & copy files back, but whatever
>> happened to the 30 days to activate?
>> Since it gives me no choice but to activate if I want to get into
>> Windows, I try to let it activate & it tells me the product key has
>> already been activated!
>> Any other suggestions?!?!?
>>
>>
>
>
> Pull those last 2 sticks of RAM out that were added to the PC.
> Or, run a memtest.
> But if the not booting occured after adding that RAM, perhaps it is bad
> RAM/mismatched.
>
>
> --
> Ens causa sui
> Fit caedes omnibus locis
Ram is back to the way it was originally.
I ran the ram test & no problems found.
Quote:

>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-05-2008   #15 (permalink)


Vista Ultimatex64 Windows 7 build 7100
 
 

Re: Repair install?

Hey Mike
Can you boot into safe mode??
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-05-2008   #16 (permalink)


Windows 7 RC x64 Vista HP x86
 
 

Re: Repair install?

Hi Mike,

As it looks like we are into the realms of Disaster recovery and you wish to recover your personal files before a possible complete re-install.

One option would be, that I have used in the past as a last resort option, and I apologise if anyone is offended for me suggesting this in a vista Forum/Newsgroup, a Linux distro such as Ubunto installed onto a second drive, or partition, which would allow you to transfer your personal files, which would appear to be still there, before you then install a fresh Vista.

I am not in anyway suggesting that you replace vista with Linux simply that I may be a Zero cost method to get around the single copy activation issue.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-05-2008   #17 (permalink)
Mike


 
 

Re: Repair install?

"pooch" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> Hey Mike
> Can you boot into safe mode??
>
>
> --
> pooch
No.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-06-2008   #18 (permalink)


Vista Ultimatex64 Windows 7 build 7100
 
 

Re: Repair install?

Hi Mike,

I do not know why the new install is asking to be activated before you can log in unless it has something to do with the broken copy of Vista that is already installed on the original disk.

My advice would be to remove the original disk from the computer leaving only the new disk installed, next you should then install Vista on this disk, this time you should be given the option to automatically activate this copy. (This is the default option) accept this option and allow it to install, when finished you will have about two days before the activation takes place which will give you time to copy your old files.

To copy the old files I recommend that you purchase an External usb enclosure, normally you can buy one without a disk and they are not to expensive. (Also they are very handy for making backups)

Place the disk with the broken copy of vista into the usb enclosure and attach to the computer this will now allow you to copy your files. When finished and you are happy that you have saved everything you can then format this disk (can also be done over usb) I suggest you use the quick format option to save time.

If you want the original disk back in the computer, switch everything off, swap the disks over, reinstall vista back onto the original disk again leaving the option to activate automatically and copy your files back. Finally format the usb disk when finished.

If you do all this in one day the first copy of Vista should never need to be activated, if however it still asks for activation before you can go into windows you should be given the option to do this by telephone, which is a pain as you will have to do it twice if you want to use the original disk again, but I dont see any reason for it not to work.

My tip when installing vista always make two partitions so that you can keep your personal files on partition D\:
This will save all this trouble should you ever have to Reinstall Vista in the future as you can simply reinstall on Partition C\: Remembering not to format D\: during the install which will leave your personal file intact.

Finaly remember you are only allowed one copy of Vista per activated key and that all other copys on other drives must be destroyed.

By formatting not with a hammer!!

I hope this helps

Pooch
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-06-2008   #19 (permalink)
Mike


 
 

Re: Repair install?

"pooch" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
news:181fc90ac570f05c20598caa9d5ce149@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
Quote:

>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I do not know why the new install is asking to be activated before you
> can log in unless it has something to do with the broken copy of Vista
> that is already installed on the original disk.
>
> My advice would be to remove the original disk from the computer
> leaving only the new disk installed, next you should then install Vista
> on this disk, this time you should be given the option to automatically
> activate this copy. (This is the default option) accept this option and
> allow it to install, when finished you will have about two days before
> the activation takes place which will give you time to copy your old
> files.
>
> To copy the old files I recommend that you purchase an External usb
> enclosure, normally you can buy one without a disk and they are not to
> expensive. (Also they are very handy for making backups)
>
> Place the disk with the broken copy of vista into the usb enclosure and
> attach to the computer this will now allow you to copy your files. When
> finished and you are happy that you have saved everything you can then
> format this disk (can also be done over usb) I suggest you use the quick
> format option to save time.
>
> If you want the original disk back in the computer, switch everything
> off, swap the disks over, reinstall vista back onto the original disk
> again leaving the option to activate automatically and copy your files
> back. Finally format the usb disk when finished.
>
> If you do all this in one day the first copy of Vista should never need
> to be activated, if however it still asks for activation before you can
> go into windows you should be given the option to do this by telephone,
> which is a pain as you will have to do it twice if you want to use the
> original disk again, but I dont see any reason for it not to work.
>
> My tip when installing vista always make two partitions so that you can
> keep your personal files on partition D\:
> This will save all this trouble should you ever have to Reinstall Vista
> in the future as you can simply reinstall on Partition C\: Remembering
> not to format D\: during the install which will leave your personal file
> intact.
>
> Finaly remember you are only allowed one copy of Vista per activated
> key and that all other copys on other drives must be destroyed.
>
> By formatting not with a hammer!!
>
> I hope this helps
>
> Pooch
>
>
> --
> pooch
Did the clean install & got the option to save files in ma windows.old
folder.
That seems to have worked out fine - thanks for all your help, guys!


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-06-2008   #20 (permalink)


VISTA HOME PREMIUM X64/ 7 x64 / 7x86
 
 

Re: Repair install?

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Mike View Post
"pooch" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
news:181fc90ac570f05c20598caa9d5ce149@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
Quote:

>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I do not know why the new install is asking to be activated before you
> can log in unless it has something to do with the broken copy of Vista
> that is already installed on the original disk.
>
> My advice would be to remove the original disk from the computer
> leaving only the new disk installed, next you should then install Vista
> on this disk, this time you should be given the option to automatically
> activate this copy. (This is the default option) accept this option and
> allow it to install, when finished you will have about two days before
> the activation takes place which will give you time to copy your old
> files.
>
> To copy the old files I recommend that you purchase an External usb
> enclosure, normally you can buy one without a disk and they are not to
> expensive. (Also they are very handy for making backups)
>
> Place the disk with the broken copy of vista into the usb enclosure and
> attach to the computer this will now allow you to copy your files. When
> finished and you are happy that you have saved everything you can then
> format this disk (can also be done over usb) I suggest you use the quick
> format option to save time.
>
> If you want the original disk back in the computer, switch everything
> off, swap the disks over, reinstall vista back onto the original disk
> again leaving the option to activate automatically and copy your files
> back. Finally format the usb disk when finished.
>
> If you do all this in one day the first copy of Vista should never need
> to be activated, if however it still asks for activation before you can
> go into windows you should be given the option to do this by telephone,
> which is a pain as you will have to do it twice if you want to use the
> original disk again, but I dont see any reason for it not to work.
>
> My tip when installing vista always make two partitions so that you can
> keep your personal files on partition D\:
> This will save all this trouble should you ever have to Reinstall Vista
> in the future as you can simply reinstall on Partition C\: Remembering
> not to format D\: during the install which will leave your personal file
> intact.
>
> Finaly remember you are only allowed one copy of Vista per activated
> key and that all other copys on other drives must be destroyed.
>
> By formatting not with a hammer!!
>
> I hope this helps
>
> Pooch
>
>
> --
> pooch
Did the clean install & got the option to save files in ma windows.old
folder.
That seems to have worked out fine - thanks for all your help, guys!
Glad it worked out for you

SIW2
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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