Vista - Disk defragmenter

10-05-2008

The more i use vista, the more i feel dissappointed. Why the disk
defragmenter interface is so simple? I can never see how many percentage of
disk is fragmented, do i need to perform defragmentation, and the current
status of defragmentation. I can only wait......till it finish without
knowing what happen. Is this true?

Some guy told me, " I am looking forward to the next version of Windows to
see what is "different" - not what is the same!"

Are we expecting a better usability os or a jsut a different os? just to
change for the sake of change.
Is it very difficult for microsoft to maintain those simple advantages of
xp?

10-05-2008

"Alan316" <alan_31652@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:41052FA0-06E7-45FE-A452-D76C063C81E8@xxxxxx

Quote:

> The more i use vista, the more i feel dissappointed. Why the disk
> defragmenter interface is so simple? I can never see how many percentage
> of
> disk is fragmented, do i need to perform defragmentation, and the current
> status of defragmentation. I can only wait......till it finish without
> knowing what happen. Is this true?
>
>
> Some guy told me, " I am looking forward to the next version of Windows to
> see what is "different" - not what is the same!"
>
> Are we expecting a better usability os or a jsut a different os? just to
> change for the sake of change.
> Is it very difficult for microsoft to maintain those simple advantages of
> xp?
>
>

Uggg.
I see you, greeter of WalMart !

LOL

--
Ens causa sui
Fit caedes omnibus locis

10-05-2008

if u like to play a fool, go else where

"D. Eth" <death@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:gcbqf8$i8d$1@xxxxxx

Quote:

> "Alan316" <alan_31652@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:41052FA0-06E7-45FE-A452-D76C063C81E8@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> The more i use vista, the more i feel dissappointed. Why the disk
>> defragmenter interface is so simple? I can never see how many percentage
>> of
>> disk is fragmented, do i need to perform defragmentation, and the current
>> status of defragmentation. I can only wait......till it finish without
>> knowing what happen. Is this true?
>>
>>
>> Some guy told me, " I am looking forward to the next version of Windows
>> to see what is "different" - not what is the same!"
>>
>> Are we expecting a better usability os or a jsut a different os? just to
>> change for the sake of change.
>> Is it very difficult for microsoft to maintain those simple advantages of
>> xp?
>>
>>

>
>
> Uggg.
> I see you, greeter of WalMart !
>
> LOL
>
> --
> Ens causa sui
> Fit caedes omnibus locis

**SIW2** · 10-05-2008

Quote: Originally Posted by Alan316

The more i use vista, the more i feel dissappointed. Why the disk
defragmenter interface is so simple? I can never see how many percentage of
disk is fragmented, do i need to perform defragmentation, and the current
status of defragmentation. I can only wait......till it finish without
knowing what happen. Is this true?

Some guy told me, " I am looking forward to the next version of Windows to
see what is "different" - not what is the same!"

Are we expecting a better usability os or a jsut a different os? just to
change for the sake of change.
Is it very difficult for microsoft to maintain those simple advantages of
xp?

Hello Alan,

I believe microsoft thought many people would see it as a standard maintenance task, and would prefer it to run in the background so they could continue to use their machines.

If you prefer a defragger you can watch, you may like the free one from Auslogics

Auslogics - Download Auslogics Disk Defrag

Hope that helps

SIW2

10-05-2008

On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:36:42 +0800, Alan316 wrote:

Quote:

> The more i use vista, the more i feel dissappointed. Why the disk
> defragmenter interface is so simple? I can never see how many percentage
> of disk is fragmented, do i need to perform defragmentation, and the
> current status of defragmentation. I can only wait......till it finish
> without knowing what happen. Is this true?
>
>
> Some guy told me, " I am looking forward to the next version of Windows
> to see what is "different" - not what is the same!"
>
> Are we expecting a better usability os or a jsut a different os? just to
> change for the sake of change.
> Is it very difficult for microsoft to maintain those simple advantages
> of xp?

With a modern file system, of course, you would not even need a disk
defragmenter - this IS the 21st century. *nix has done quite nicely
without them for over 10 years now.

10-06-2008

Yea, ther tot this is chat room

"Alan316" <alan_31652@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:EDB3505E-0701-4FD0-AB1B-2249ACE6266C@xxxxxx

Quote:

> if u like to play a fool, go else where
>
>
> "D. Eth" <death@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:gcbqf8$i8d$1@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> "Alan316" <alan_31652@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:41052FA0-06E7-45FE-A452-D76C063C81E8@xxxxxx

Quote:

>>> The more i use vista, the more i feel dissappointed. Why the disk
>>> defragmenter interface is so simple? I can never see how many percentage
>>> of
>>> disk is fragmented, do i need to perform defragmentation, and the
>>> current
>>> status of defragmentation. I can only wait......till it finish without
>>> knowing what happen. Is this true?
>>>
>>>
>>> Some guy told me, " I am looking forward to the next version of Windows
>>> to see what is "different" - not what is the same!"
>>>
>>> Are we expecting a better usability os or a jsut a different os? just to
>>> change for the sake of change.
>>> Is it very difficult for microsoft to maintain those simple advantages
>>> of xp?
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> Uggg.
>> I see you, greeter of WalMart !
>>
>> LOL
>>
>> --
>> Ens causa sui
>> Fit caedes omnibus locis

>

10-06-2008

>> Some guy told me, " I am looking forward to the next version of Windows

Quote:

>> to see what is "different" - not what is the same!"
>>
>> Are we expecting a better usability os or a jsut a different os? just to
>> change for the sake of change.
>> Is it very difficult for microsoft to maintain those simple advantages
>> of xp?

>
> With a modern file system, of course, you would not even need a disk
> defragmenter - this IS the 21st century. *nix has done quite nicely
> without them for over 10 years now.

Really?? Then why each time it run, message pop up said this may take from a
few minutes to a few hour?

10-06-2008

In article <6ktev1F9j78kU4@xxxxxx>, ray@xxxxxx says...

Quote:

> On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:36:42 +0800, Alan316 wrote:
>
>
> With a modern file system, of course, you would not even need a disk
> defragmenter - this IS the 21st century. *nix has done quite nicely
> without them for over 10 years now.
>

interesting is, that ext4 FS includes deftagmentation tool.....

--
Poutnik

Different opinions oftem means people know only their own parts of the
truth.

10-06-2008

On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 09:36:42 +0800, Alan316 wrote:

Quote:

> The more i use vista, the more i feel dissappointed. Why the disk
> defragmenter interface is so simple? I can never see how many percentage of
> disk is fragmented, do i need to perform defragmentation, and the current
> status of defragmentation. I can only wait......till it finish without
> knowing what happen. Is this true?
>
>
> Some guy told me, " I am looking forward to the next version of Windows to
> see what is "different" - not what is the same!"
>
> Are we expecting a better usability os or a jsut a different os? just to
> change for the sake of change.
> Is it very difficult for microsoft to maintain those simple advantages of
> xp?

Interesting stuff...defrag etc. etc.
https://ms.istreamplanet.com/springboard/

10-06-2008

On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:57:40 +0800, _CragTheCode wrote:

Quote:

>>> Some guy told me, " I am looking forward to the next version of
>>> Windows to see what is "different" - not what is the same!"
>>>
>>> Are we expecting a better usability os or a jsut a different os? just
>>> to change for the sake of change.
>>> Is it very difficult for microsoft to maintain those simple advantages
>>> of xp?

>>
>> With a modern file system, of course, you would not even need a disk
>> defragmenter - this IS the 21st century. *nix has done quite nicely
>> without them for over 10 years now.

>
> Really?? Then why each time it run, message pop up said this may take
> from a few minutes to a few hour?

Certain Linux file systems do a consistency check when they boot up. This
most likely happens with unjournaled systems like ext2. It is not doing a
defrag, it is doing a consistency check. This issue has been completely
avoided with newer systems like reiser - does not have that issue at al.

10-05-2008	#1 (permalink)
Alan316 n/a posts	Disk defragmenter The more i use vista, the more i feel dissappointed. Why the disk defragmenter interface is so simple? I can never see how many percentage of disk is fragmented, do i need to perform defragmentation, and the current status of defragmentation. I can only wait......till it finish without knowing what happen. Is this true? Some guy told me, " I am looking forward to the next version of Windows to see what is "different" - not what is the same!" Are we expecting a better usability os or a jsut a different os? just to change for the sake of change. Is it very difficult for microsoft to maintain those simple advantages of xp?
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10-05-2008	#2 (permalink)
D. Eth n/a posts	Re: Disk defragmenter "Alan316" <alan_31652@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:41052FA0-06E7-45FE-A452-D76C063C81E8@xxxxxx Quote: > The more i use vista, the more i feel dissappointed. Why the disk > defragmenter interface is so simple? I can never see how many percentage > of > disk is fragmented, do i need to perform defragmentation, and the current > status of defragmentation. I can only wait......till it finish without > knowing what happen. Is this true? > > > Some guy told me, " I am looking forward to the next version of Windows to > see what is "different" - not what is the same!" > > Are we expecting a better usability os or a jsut a different os? just to > change for the sake of change. > Is it very difficult for microsoft to maintain those simple advantages of > xp? > > Uggg. I see you, greeter of WalMart ! LOL -- Ens causa sui Fit caedes omnibus locis
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10-05-2008	#3 (permalink)
Alan316 n/a posts	Re: Disk defragmenter if u like to play a fool, go else where "D. Eth" <death@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:gcbqf8$i8d$1@xxxxxx Quote: > "Alan316" <alan_31652@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:41052FA0-06E7-45FE-A452-D76C063C81E8@xxxxxx Quote: >> The more i use vista, the more i feel dissappointed. Why the disk >> defragmenter interface is so simple? I can never see how many percentage >> of >> disk is fragmented, do i need to perform defragmentation, and the current >> status of defragmentation. I can only wait......till it finish without >> knowing what happen. Is this true? >> >> >> Some guy told me, " I am looking forward to the next version of Windows >> to see what is "different" - not what is the same!" >> >> Are we expecting a better usability os or a jsut a different os? just to >> change for the sake of change. >> Is it very difficult for microsoft to maintain those simple advantages of >> xp? >> >> > > > Uggg. > I see you, greeter of WalMart ! > > LOL > > -- > Ens causa sui > Fit caedes omnibus locis
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10-05-2008	#4 (permalink)
SIW2 VISTA HOME PREMIUM X64/ 7 x64 / 7x86 2,301 posts	Re: Disk defragmenter Quote: Originally Posted by Alan316 The more i use vista, the more i feel dissappointed. Why the disk defragmenter interface is so simple? I can never see how many percentage of disk is fragmented, do i need to perform defragmentation, and the current status of defragmentation. I can only wait......till it finish without knowing what happen. Is this true? Some guy told me, " I am looking forward to the next version of Windows to see what is "different" - not what is the same!" Are we expecting a better usability os or a jsut a different os? just to change for the sake of change. Is it very difficult for microsoft to maintain those simple advantages of xp? Hello Alan, I believe microsoft thought many people would see it as a standard maintenance task, and would prefer it to run in the background so they could continue to use their machines. If you prefer a defragger you can watch, you may like the free one from Auslogics Auslogics - Download Auslogics Disk Defrag Hope that helps SIW2
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10-05-2008	#5 (permalink)
ray n/a posts	Re: Disk defragmenter On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:36:42 +0800, Alan316 wrote: Quote: > The more i use vista, the more i feel dissappointed. Why the disk > defragmenter interface is so simple? I can never see how many percentage > of disk is fragmented, do i need to perform defragmentation, and the > current status of defragmentation. I can only wait......till it finish > without knowing what happen. Is this true? > > > Some guy told me, " I am looking forward to the next version of Windows > to see what is "different" - not what is the same!" > > Are we expecting a better usability os or a jsut a different os? just to > change for the sake of change. > Is it very difficult for microsoft to maintain those simple advantages > of xp? With a modern file system, of course, you would not even need a disk defragmenter - this IS the 21st century. *nix has done quite nicely without them for over 10 years now.
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10-06-2008	#6 (permalink)
_CragTheCode n/a posts	Re: Disk defragmenter Yea, ther tot this is chat room "Alan316" <alan_31652@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:EDB3505E-0701-4FD0-AB1B-2249ACE6266C@xxxxxx Quote: > if u like to play a fool, go else where > > > "D. Eth" <death@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:gcbqf8$i8d$1@xxxxxx Quote: >> "Alan316" <alan_31652@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:41052FA0-06E7-45FE-A452-D76C063C81E8@xxxxxx Quote: >>> The more i use vista, the more i feel dissappointed. Why the disk >>> defragmenter interface is so simple? I can never see how many percentage >>> of >>> disk is fragmented, do i need to perform defragmentation, and the >>> current >>> status of defragmentation. I can only wait......till it finish without >>> knowing what happen. Is this true? >>> >>> >>> Some guy told me, " I am looking forward to the next version of Windows >>> to see what is "different" - not what is the same!" >>> >>> Are we expecting a better usability os or a jsut a different os? just to >>> change for the sake of change. >>> Is it very difficult for microsoft to maintain those simple advantages >>> of xp? >>> >>> >> >> >> Uggg. >> I see you, greeter of WalMart ! >> >> LOL >> >> -- >> Ens causa sui >> Fit caedes omnibus locis >
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10-06-2008	#7 (permalink)
_CragTheCode n/a posts	Re: Disk defragmenter >> Some guy told me, " I am looking forward to the next version of Windows Quote: Quote: >> to see what is "different" - not what is the same!" >> >> Are we expecting a better usability os or a jsut a different os? just to >> change for the sake of change. >> Is it very difficult for microsoft to maintain those simple advantages >> of xp? > > With a modern file system, of course, you would not even need a disk > defragmenter - this IS the 21st century. *nix has done quite nicely > without them for over 10 years now. Really?? Then why each time it run, message pop up said this may take from a few minutes to a few hour?
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10-06-2008	#8 (permalink)
Poutnik n/a posts	Re: Disk defragmenter In article <6ktev1F9j78kU4@xxxxxx>, ray@xxxxxx says... Quote: > On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:36:42 +0800, Alan316 wrote: > > > With a modern file system, of course, you would not even need a disk > defragmenter - this IS the 21st century. *nix has done quite nicely > without them for over 10 years now. > interesting is, that ext4 FS includes deftagmentation tool..... -- Poutnik Different opinions oftem means people know only their own parts of the truth.
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10-06-2008	#9 (permalink)
Kayman n/a posts	Re: Disk defragmenter On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 09:36:42 +0800, Alan316 wrote: Quote: > The more i use vista, the more i feel dissappointed. Why the disk > defragmenter interface is so simple? I can never see how many percentage of > disk is fragmented, do i need to perform defragmentation, and the current > status of defragmentation. I can only wait......till it finish without > knowing what happen. Is this true? > > > Some guy told me, " I am looking forward to the next version of Windows to > see what is "different" - not what is the same!" > > Are we expecting a better usability os or a jsut a different os? just to > change for the sake of change. > Is it very difficult for microsoft to maintain those simple advantages of > xp? Interesting stuff...defrag etc. etc. https://ms.istreamplanet.com/springboard/
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10-06-2008	#10 (permalink)
ray n/a posts	Re: Disk defragmenter On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:57:40 +0800, _CragTheCode wrote: Quote: Quote: Quote: >>> Some guy told me, " I am looking forward to the next version of >>> Windows to see what is "different" - not what is the same!" >>> >>> Are we expecting a better usability os or a jsut a different os? just >>> to change for the sake of change. >>> Is it very difficult for microsoft to maintain those simple advantages >>> of xp? >> >> With a modern file system, of course, you would not even need a disk >> defragmenter - this IS the 21st century. *nix has done quite nicely >> without them for over 10 years now. > > Really?? Then why each time it run, message pop up said this may take > from a few minutes to a few hour? Certain Linux file systems do a consistency check when they boot up. This most likely happens with unjournaled systems like ext2. It is not doing a defrag, it is doing a consistency check. This issue has been completely avoided with newer systems like reiser - does not have that issue at al.
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