Vista Tutorial - Can't use both wired and wireless networking at same time

I have a new laptop with Vista Home Premium and I am using the
wireless connection to reach a router to connect to the Internet.
When I attach a cable for my local network, the connection to the
Internet is broken. I am still connected to the wireless router, but
the Internet connection is lost.

If I disconnect the wired LAN connection the Internet connection
returns after a while.

I had been trying to share the Internet connection, but now I just
want to be able to access both from this machine.

"nemo" <gnuarm@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:6de423ce-b20b-47ae-b03a-5d6c8b355a0e@xxxxxxWhy are the 2 networks separate? Run a cable from your wireless router to
your local network hub. That way you have internet connection thru the
wire AND you can see your local network when running wireless.

This is the way I have always done it here.

On Oct 7, 10:39*am, "Bob Campbell" <b...@xxxxxx> wrote:Running a wire for a wireless connection kind of defeats the purpose
of the wireless connection! PCs can and have used more than one
network interface for many years. There is something goofy about the
configuration under Vista. I have done this before under Win2k. I
have even shared a modem over a network under Win2k.

On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:17:30 -0700 (PDT), nemo <gnuarm@xxxxxx>
wrote:
nemo:

Not a direct answer... but Vista definitely has some issues in this
area. Myself and associates have found it exceedingly difficult even
to switch from wireless to wired; or in the case of wired, to
disconnect the cable without Vista going into a hung state. Generally
you have to disable and enable the cards before making any changes or
it rarely hooks up correctly.

One associate finds that he can't even change wireless networks
without disabling/enabling the network interface. Some folks have
managed to pull off the switch by issuing an ipconfig/renew. On other
systems, nothing short of a reboot allows it to happen.

Perhaps the reboot with both connections hooked up or disable wireless
-connect wired - enable wireless scenario would work.

On Oct 7, 7:31*pm, "Bob Campbell" <b...@xxxxxx> wrote:
That is right, you don't understand. The Internet connection is in
one place and the wired network is in another. To do what you are
suggesting would require me to put everything in one place. Not much
point to using wireless if I have to run a cable just to put the wired
connections on the Internet. That is the part you aren't grasping.
The wired network is not near the Internet connection, so I can't just
put them all on the same router.

hi,
firstly are the local and internet NIC's on the same or different subnets? are you attempting to use the laptop as a wireless access point for the rest of the local network?
if you can post back the results of an ipconfig /all that may help diagnose a solution

"nemo" <gnuarm@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Ah, OK. Well, all I can say is I would never do it that way. As you
have discovered, there is not much point to having a wireless network if
your wired network can't see it. My cable modem/router/wired
network/hub/desktops/servers are all in the same room. My desktops/servers
use wired, laptops can use wireless and wired. All can see each other.

If I was in your situation, I would either call the cable company and get
another cable drop, or I would be running CAT6 cable along baseboards/under
carpet/thru walls/whatever I had to do, in order to get my wired and
wireless networks connected. As you add more
computers/devices/who-knows-what-is-coming-in-the-future, you will find it
very convenient to have every device talking to every other device, wired or
wireless

As for your original problem, I don't see that here. If I unplug my router
from my hub, then plug my laptop into the hub, my internet connection
remains thru the wireless, and I can see the local wired network. So both
networks are definitely working. The wireless connection goes off for a
few seconds (gets a yellow icon in the system tray), but it comes back on
after Vista figures out the networking. In the Network and Sharing Center
in Control Panel, the wireless connection shows "Local and Internet", the
wired connection shows "Local only".

I realize none of the above is much help, but it shows it CAN be done. You
must have something configured wrong. In the TCP/IPv4 properties for your
wired connection, there should be no Gateway address or DNS Server address.
You need only IP Address and Subnet Mask. Are you using Static addresses,
or is one of your machines handing out address thru DHCP?

Bob, I have configured many systems with multiple nics, wireless and wire
all connected to different networks doing various stuff.

We live in a complex world and many people have different needs even for
strange configurations like this.

All this with XP though...

Indeed many people are having trouble with doing this vista, many people
complain to me all the time, but im not sure yet if it's the drivers or
Vista itself...



"Bob Campbell" <bob@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:7pKdnRR5pN2LLXHVnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d@xxxxxx

to give you an example of this, on one machine you get the internet from a
cable, and you "share" it from the wireless network card in ad-hoc mode..

this is useful if you don't have a router, it's a dirty solution but
sometimes people need this as a temporary solution and don't have a router
at hand

"the granter of sina" <granter@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:48ecf8a4@xxxxxx-privat.org...

i do what ur trying to achieve all day everyday on my Vista laptop, so let me just tell you its not a fault of the OS. Heres a quick rundown. I have the internet cable modem connected to the wired network, or usb, with auto configured IP which successfully comes from the Network Provider. I then have manual configured IP address's for the wireless network, configuring the box sharing the connection as 192.168.0.1 and the other boxes with gateway set to 192.168.0.1 Then on the shared connection box i configure to share the connection on the wired adapter with the wireless. And it works all the time, everytime, 100% reliable. XP used to be flaky on the wireless connection to my PDA especially, but Vista is awesome.