Vista - Re: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months

10-09-2008

"xfile" <coucou@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Why would business customers want downgrade rights? Perhaps if you were
>> administering several hundred or several thousand workstations you might
>> find that it is easier to maintain your machines if they all have the
>> same operating system. Or maybe you have specialized applications or
>> custom software that was designed to run on Windows XP but that doesn't
>> work so well on the newer Windows version, changing the older or custom
>> applications may not be a feasible option at this particular time so you
>> might instead exercise your downgrade rights, for business customers this
>> is not something that is as stupid as some might think. As I said above,
>> this is nothing new, it's been around for a while and it is aimed at
>> corporate clients, most people misunderstand the purpose of the downgrade
>> rights but if they so chose to exercise it it is theirs to exercise if
>> they buy business versions of the operating system.

>
> I agree with you mostly except the following:
>
> The magnitude has never been this large though it is known that corporate
> customers are, rightfully, cautious. However, corporate customers are
> normally signed in with volume licenses and if one pays attentions to the
> offer from brand name system providers, one will also know that it's not
> just corporate customers but also a larger number of SMBs (small and
> medium business) are doing so.
>
> Apart from the "standard" costs of migrating to a new operating system,
> Vista also requires a large amount of "retraining" cost including
> interruption of work and user dissatisfaction, and we are still dealing
> with some primitive issues (e.g. file copying, basic networking issues,
> etc.) after Windows has been introduced, say, 20+ years?
>
> On one hand, we have increased cost without reducing any of previous
> standard migration costs such as some of you already mentioned, and on the
> other hand, what are "tangible" benefits (key word: tangible, not
> sensational or feeling safer)?
>
> Also with today's global competitive environment, I seriously doubt any
> proper trained decision maker will give it a go.
>
> The newer version will have to deliver one critical business element
> regardless of its technical hype and that is, If it cannot present
> *tangible* benefits, it needs to reduce deployment/migration cost, or it
> will face the same if not a worse situation.

Ditto!
And if the manufacturer of the goods you sell says...use Vista at your own
risk, we won't ptovide support for problems with out software on Vista
machines...
you stick with XP. Not just because it is better...but because you need to
for legitimate business purposes.

10-09-2008	#1 (permalink)
Not Even Me n/a posts	Re: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months "xfile" <coucou@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ebRpGZWKJHA.4280@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: >> Why would business customers want downgrade rights? Perhaps if you were >> administering several hundred or several thousand workstations you might >> find that it is easier to maintain your machines if they all have the >> same operating system. Or maybe you have specialized applications or >> custom software that was designed to run on Windows XP but that doesn't >> work so well on the newer Windows version, changing the older or custom >> applications may not be a feasible option at this particular time so you >> might instead exercise your downgrade rights, for business customers this >> is not something that is as stupid as some might think. As I said above, >> this is nothing new, it's been around for a while and it is aimed at >> corporate clients, most people misunderstand the purpose of the downgrade >> rights but if they so chose to exercise it it is theirs to exercise if >> they buy business versions of the operating system. > > I agree with you mostly except the following: > > The magnitude has never been this large though it is known that corporate > customers are, rightfully, cautious. However, corporate customers are > normally signed in with volume licenses and if one pays attentions to the > offer from brand name system providers, one will also know that it's not > just corporate customers but also a larger number of SMBs (small and > medium business) are doing so. > > Apart from the "standard" costs of migrating to a new operating system, > Vista also requires a large amount of "retraining" cost including > interruption of work and user dissatisfaction, and we are still dealing > with some primitive issues (e.g. file copying, basic networking issues, > etc.) after Windows has been introduced, say, 20+ years? > > On one hand, we have increased cost without reducing any of previous > standard migration costs such as some of you already mentioned, and on the > other hand, what are "tangible" benefits (key word: tangible, not > sensational or feeling safer)? > > Also with today's global competitive environment, I seriously doubt any > proper trained decision maker will give it a go. > > The newer version will have to deliver one critical business element > regardless of its technical hype and that is, If it cannot present > tangible benefits, it needs to reduce deployment/migration cost, or it > will face the same if not a worse situation. Ditto! And if the manufacturer of the goods you sell says...use Vista at your own risk, we won't ptovide support for problems with out software on Vista machines... you stick with XP. Not just because it is better...but because you need to for legitimate business purposes.
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