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Old 10-11-2008   #1 (permalink)
Hotrod Harry


 
 

Vista Speech Recognition

I need Vista Speech Recognitions commands but can't find them using "Help"
on my computer or on the Internet. Can someone tell me where I can get a
list of commands for IE7 and Windows Live Mail? Thanks.


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Old 10-12-2008   #2 (permalink)
John Barnett MVP


 
 

Re: Vista Speech Recognition

Click the Start button and then click Help and Support. In the help and
support window
type 'voice recognition commands' (without the quotes). A list of possible
answers will com up. The 3rd one down is 'common commands in speech
recognition', Click on this. In the next window click the 2nd option in the
list 'common speech recognition commands.' A list of common commands will
now appear.


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"Hotrod Harry" <dfg@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> I need Vista Speech Recognitions commands but can't find them using "Help"
> on my computer or on the Internet. Can someone tell me where I can get a
> list of commands for IE7 and Windows Live Mail? Thanks.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-12-2008   #3 (permalink)
John Barnett MVP


 
 

Re: Vista Speech Recognition

This link also has a comprehensive list of commands:

http://www.maximumpcguides.com/windo...and-reference/


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"Hotrod Harry" <dfg@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#slwlGALJHA.2760@xxxxxx
Quote:

> I need Vista Speech Recognitions commands but can't find them using "Help"
> on my computer or on the Internet. Can someone tell me where I can get a
> list of commands for IE7 and Windows Live Mail? Thanks.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-12-2008   #4 (permalink)
Hotrod Harry


 
 

Re: Vista Speech Recognition

Thanks for the replies. The information was valuable. Although I'm about to
give up. Speech recognition has a long way to go but I must say I tried
"Dragon Naturally Speaking" and Vista Speech Recognition worked much better
and was much more intuitive.

Although the pundits will say....it was the microphone, pronunciation,
distance from the mic, background noise, etc. When you have to spend weeks
learning how to work software, it's not ready yet. It was fun, though. And I
would love to have it work so that I could use it.

See this clip from YouTube......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y_Jp6PxsSQ


"John Barnett MVP" <freelance@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> This link also has a comprehensive list of commands:
>
> http://www.maximumpcguides.com/windo...and-reference/
>
>
> --
>
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Windows XP Associate Expert
> Windows Desktop Experience
>
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> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com
>
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> for
> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
> the
> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
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>
>
> "Hotrod Harry" <dfg@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:#slwlGALJHA.2760@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> I need Vista Speech Recognitions commands but can't find them using
>> "Help" on my computer or on the Internet. Can someone tell me where I can
>> get a list of commands for IE7 and Windows Live Mail? Thanks.
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-12-2008   #5 (permalink)
Memnoch


 
 

Re: Vista Speech Recognition

On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:55:43 -0500, "Hotrod Harry" <dfg@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>Thanks for the replies. The information was valuable. Although I'm about to
>give up. Speech recognition has a long way to go but I must say I tried
>"Dragon Naturally Speaking" and Vista Speech Recognition worked much better
>and was much more intuitive.
>
>Although the pundits will say....it was the microphone, pronunciation,
>distance from the mic, background noise, etc. When you have to spend weeks
>learning how to work software, it's not ready yet. It was fun, though. And I
>would love to have it work so that I could use it.
>
>See this clip from YouTube......
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y_Jp6PxsSQ
That looked like it hadn't been trained to his voice. I doubt the mic was
picking up ambient noise from the audience and whatnot. You can just about
make out the mic levels in green at the top of the screen.
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Old 10-12-2008   #6 (permalink)
John Barnett MVP


 
 

Re: Vista Speech Recognition

Like most things speech recognition has its faults. Will it ever be perfect,
you ask? Probably not, simply because of all the dialects. You really need
time to train this software, although it is better than the one packaged
with Windows XP. I well remember trying that and I only had to breathe into
the microphone and it would type away merrily - absolute rubbish - but it
would still type away:-)

The only thing the Vista voice recognition does for me is give me a massive
migraine. I'm not sure whether I'm not ready for speech recognition or
speech recognition isn't ready for me. I will try it again though when I
have more time to spend training it.

Incidentally, did you notice during the training sessions where you read the
text that no matter what word you actually pronounced (the speech card could
say Dog and you could say Elephant) speech recognition accepted it and moved
on to the next word? No a very convincing way to teach!


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"Hotrod Harry" <dfg@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uhQnxzKLJHA.4996@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Thanks for the replies. The information was valuable. Although I'm about
> to give up. Speech recognition has a long way to go but I must say I tried
> "Dragon Naturally Speaking" and Vista Speech Recognition worked much
> better and was much more intuitive.
>
> Although the pundits will say....it was the microphone, pronunciation,
> distance from the mic, background noise, etc. When you have to spend weeks
> learning how to work software, it's not ready yet. It was fun, though. And
> I would love to have it work so that I could use it.
>
> See this clip from YouTube......
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y_Jp6PxsSQ
>
>
> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OHNrwFILJHA.6000@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> This link also has a comprehensive list of commands:
>>
>> http://www.maximumpcguides.com/windo...and-reference/
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> --
>> John Barnett MVP
>> Windows XP Associate Expert
>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>
>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com
>>
>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
>> for
>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
>> the
>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
>> mail/post..
>>
>>
>> "Hotrod Harry" <dfg@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:#slwlGALJHA.2760@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> I need Vista Speech Recognitions commands but can't find them using
>>> "Help" on my computer or on the Internet. Can someone tell me where I
>>> can get a list of commands for IE7 and Windows Live Mail? Thanks.
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-12-2008   #7 (permalink)
Hotrod Harry


 
 

Re: Vista Speech Recognition

> Incidentally, did you notice during the training sessions where you read
Quote:

> the text that no matter what word you actually pronounced (the speech card
> could say Dog and you could say Elephant) speech recognition accepted it
> and moved on to the next word? No a very convincing way to teach!
Yes, I noticed that. Definitely something wrong there. I'm still trying to
use it and it's fun to fool with but like you say, it gets frustrating.
Thanks for all replies. It won't be too long when we'll be talking to our
computers. I hope I'm still around. I love technology.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-12-2008   #8 (permalink)
Telstar


 
 

Re: Vista Speech Recognition


"Hotrod Harry" <dfg@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uDbFaiLLJHA.1304@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:

>> Incidentally, did you notice during the training sessions where you read
>> the text that no matter what word you actually pronounced (the speech
>> card could say Dog and you could say Elephant) speech recognition
>> accepted it and moved on to the next word? No a very convincing way to
>> teach!
>
> Yes, I noticed that. Definitely something wrong there. I'm still trying to
> use it and it's fun to fool with but like you say, it gets frustrating.
> Thanks for all replies. It won't be too long when we'll be talking to our
> computers. I hope I'm still around. I love technology.
Speech recognition science is at least 40 years old. This is all you get.
Give it another 20 years.


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Old 10-13-2008   #9 (permalink)
Memnoch


 
 

Re: Vista Speech Recognition

On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:38:25 -0700, "Telstar" <none@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>
>"Hotrod Harry" <dfg@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:uDbFaiLLJHA.1304@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:

>>> Incidentally, did you notice during the training sessions where you read
>>> the text that no matter what word you actually pronounced (the speech
>>> card could say Dog and you could say Elephant) speech recognition
>>> accepted it and moved on to the next word? No a very convincing way to
>>> teach!
>>
>> Yes, I noticed that. Definitely something wrong there. I'm still trying to
>> use it and it's fun to fool with but like you say, it gets frustrating.
>> Thanks for all replies. It won't be too long when we'll be talking to our
>> computers. I hope I'm still around. I love technology.
>
>Speech recognition science is at least 40 years old. This is all you get.
>Give it another 20 years.
I think it will also require a major shift in how users perceive their
computers. Having been so used to keyboard and mouse I think it will take time
for this input method to sink in. Yes, it's been around for ages but it has
never really caught on. Some people I suspect just won't be comfortable with
merrily chatting away to their computer. And I can't see it being used in the
average office either.
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Old 10-13-2008   #10 (permalink)
Patrick Keenan


 
 

Re: Vista Speech Recognition


"Hotrod Harry" <dfg@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uhQnxzKLJHA.4996@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Thanks for the replies. The information was valuable. Although I'm about
> to give up. Speech recognition has a long way to go but I must say I tried
> "Dragon Naturally Speaking" and Vista Speech Recognition worked much
> better and was much more intuitive.
>
> Although the pundits will say....it was the microphone, pronunciation,
> distance from the mic, background noise, etc. When you have to spend weeks
> learning how to work software, it's not ready yet. It was fun, though. And
> I would love to have it work so that I could use it.
Voice recognition depends very, very heavily on training and hardware. It
turns out it isn't reasonable to expect it to just work; what we as humans
can easily do is spectacularly difficult for silicon and software.

Don't forget, either, the problem of homonyms. Computers generally can't
tell which word you meant to use.

There are only a few contexts in which voice recognition works well, one of
them being a court reporter who repeats everything said into a mic held in a
mask, and the reporting software converts this speech to text. The
reporter has spent a lot of time training both their voice and the software
to their voice and inflection, and the mask prevents other sounds in the
room from interfering with the recording.

Quote:

> See this clip from YouTube......
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y_Jp6PxsSQ
>
>
> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OHNrwFILJHA.6000@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> This link also has a comprehensive list of commands:
>>
>> http://www.maximumpcguides.com/windo...and-reference/
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> --
>> John Barnett MVP
>> Windows XP Associate Expert
>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>
>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com
>>
>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
>> for
>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
>> the
>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
>> mail/post..
>>
>>
>> "Hotrod Harry" <dfg@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:#slwlGALJHA.2760@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> I need Vista Speech Recognitions commands but can't find them using
>>> "Help" on my computer or on the Internet. Can someone tell me where I
>>> can get a list of commands for IE7 and Windows Live Mail? Thanks.
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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