UAC & Startup programs

Is there a way to tell UAC that it's OK to run a startup program (in this
case, AVG Anti-Virus) now, and every other time I start my computer?

For the most part, I like UAC, but come on -- It shouldn't need to prompt me
again, once I tell UAC it's OK....

Or maybe this is an "issue" that will be worked out by RTM?

Very annoying isn't it. I, too, hope it is fixed by RTM. UAC should have a
feature like most firewalls, you have a choice of allow this time or always
allow.

"Rastaman" <Rasta@work.com> wrote in message
news:ed3MRhq3GHA.4764@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Is there a way to tell UAC that it's OK to run a startup program (in this
> case, AVG Anti-Virus) now, and every other time I start my computer?
>
> For the most part, I like UAC, but come on -- It shouldn't need to prompt
> me again, once I tell UAC it's OK....
>
> Or maybe this is an "issue" that will be worked out by RTM?
>
>

Do you even consider the fact that programs you load on your computer "must"
conform to the new standards put in place in Vista? If the program was coded
correctly, it would work.

Funny as how the "beta" version of Avast Antivirus for Vista does not have
this problem. I guess that Avast is coded correctly!

Either wait till the company of your choice gets up to speed or change your
antivirus program. This goes for any program you are trying to load in
Vista. Microsoft has tried to make backward compatibility a priority, but if
certain programs are not coded safely - they won't load/work.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!



"Rastaman" <Rasta@work.com> wrote in message
news:ed3MRhq3GHA.4764@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Is there a way to tell UAC that it's OK to run a startup program (in this
> case, AVG Anti-Virus) now, and every other time I start my computer?
>
> For the most part, I like UAC, but come on -- It shouldn't need to prompt
> me again, once I tell UAC it's OK....
>
> Or maybe this is an "issue" that will be worked out by RTM?
>
>

I uninstalled AVG and went with Avast for this very reason.


"Rastaman" <Rasta@work.com> wrote in message
news:ed3MRhq3GHA.4764@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Is there a way to tell UAC that it's OK to run a startup program (in this
> case, AVG Anti-Virus) now, and every other time I start my computer?
>
> For the most part, I like UAC, but come on -- It shouldn't need to prompt
> me again, once I tell UAC it's OK....
>
> Or maybe this is an "issue" that will be worked out by RTM?
>
>

Rastaman wrote:
> Is there a way to tell UAC that it's OK to run a startup program (in
> this case, AVG Anti-Virus) now, and every other time I start my computer?
>
> For the most part, I like UAC, but come on -- It shouldn't need to
> prompt me again, once I tell UAC it's OK....
>
> Or maybe this is an "issue" that will be worked out by RTM?
>
>
UAC is the very first application that I disable in Vista. However, if
you can't control your own computer then you need UAC, otherwise disable it.
Frank

"Rastaman" <Rasta@work.com> wrote in message news:ed3MRhq3GHA.4764@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Is there a way to tell UAC that it's OK to run a startup program (in this
> case, AVG Anti-Virus) now, and every other time I start my computer?
>
> For the most part, I like UAC, but come on -- It shouldn't need to prompt me
> again, once I tell UAC it's OK....
>
> Or maybe this is an "issue" that will be worked out by RTM?

Just turn that dam annoying UAC off.


-Michael

> (in this case, AVG Anti-Virus)

The free AVG works just fine here on my Vista RC1 (after giving it the
proper rights in Firewall, before it was blocked on startup by Defender).
The only time UAC still prompts is for manual update.

But I sure do agree the balance between security and usability is lost in
UAC.

UAC, as I described once before, is rather like having an alarm system on
your home. It is an extra layer of security, but like alarm systems, some
feel the need, others consider them an annoyance.

Just wait, though... I'd wager that some of those who see fit to
intentionally disable it will be among the most vocal in cutting down
Microsoft after Vista is released, complaining that Vista's security still
isn't sufficient, after their system is compromised by some hacker who's
smarter then they are.

Odds, anyone?


"John Barnes" <JBarnes@email.net> wrote in message
news:304141F4-45BC-47D2-8C30-129683E98314@microsoft.com...
> Very annoying isn't it. I, too, hope it is fixed by RTM. UAC should have
> a feature like most firewalls, you have a choice of allow this time or
> always allow.
>
> "Rastaman" <Rasta@work.com> wrote in message
> news:ed3MRhq3GHA.4764@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Is there a way to tell UAC that it's OK to run a startup program (in this
>> case, AVG Anti-Virus) now, and every other time I start my computer?
>>
>> For the most part, I like UAC, but come on -- It shouldn't need to prompt
>> me again, once I tell UAC it's OK....
>>
>> Or maybe this is an "issue" that will be worked out by RTM?
>>
>>
>

I agree in principle, but it would be better and less likely to be turned
off if it only asked one time and if told 'always allow' it would not ask
again until the program was modified (new version). There is absolutely no
benefit to asking about the exact same action once it has been permanently
approved.

"jwardl" <jwardl@spamthis.com> wrote in message
news:B60CCEAF-20B4-4F30-A6AD-1088EB6FAD7B@microsoft.com...
> UAC, as I described once before, is rather like having an alarm system on
> your home. It is an extra layer of security, but like alarm systems, some
> feel the need, others consider them an annoyance.
>
> Just wait, though... I'd wager that some of those who see fit to
> intentionally disable it will be among the most vocal in cutting down
> Microsoft after Vista is released, complaining that Vista's security still
> isn't sufficient, after their system is compromised by some hacker who's
> smarter then they are.
>
> Odds, anyone?
>
>
> "John Barnes" <JBarnes@email.net> wrote in message
> news:304141F4-45BC-47D2-8C30-129683E98314@microsoft.com...
>> Very annoying isn't it. I, too, hope it is fixed by RTM. UAC should
>> have a feature like most firewalls, you have a choice of allow this time
>> or always allow.
>>
>> "Rastaman" <Rasta@work.com> wrote in message
>> news:ed3MRhq3GHA.4764@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Is there a way to tell UAC that it's OK to run a startup program (in
>>> this case, AVG Anti-Virus) now, and every other time I start my
>>> computer?
>>>
>>> For the most part, I like UAC, but come on -- It shouldn't need to
>>> prompt me again, once I tell UAC it's OK....
>>>
>>> Or maybe this is an "issue" that will be worked out by RTM?
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Chew on this.

You allow always, say Photoshop, so you don't always get the popup. Now, you
don't use Photoshop very often at all.

Three months from now an exploit comes out that replaces the Photoshop
executable with its own. It has free license to run whenever.

With the UAC enabled, you would get a popup asking for permission. Because
YOU did not initiate this program, a prudent person would deny access.

I will be telling MY customers to leave it enabled - at all costs! And I
will also. I am not smart enough to beat the damn hackers, and I doubt that
anyone can be 100% effective against them. Every little extra bit security
is welcomed on my end.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!



"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
news:O$HYL003GHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I agree in principle, but it would be better and less likely to be turned
>off if it only asked one time and if told 'always allow' it would not ask
>again until the program was modified (new version). There is absolutely no
>benefit to asking about the exact same action once it has been permanently
>approved.
>
> "jwardl" <jwardl@spamthis.com> wrote in message
> news:B60CCEAF-20B4-4F30-A6AD-1088EB6FAD7B@microsoft.com...
>> UAC, as I described once before, is rather like having an alarm system on
>> your home. It is an extra layer of security, but like alarm systems, some
>> feel the need, others consider them an annoyance.
>>
>> Just wait, though... I'd wager that some of those who see fit to
>> intentionally disable it will be among the most vocal in cutting down
>> Microsoft after Vista is released, complaining that Vista's security
>> still isn't sufficient, after their system is compromised by some hacker
>> who's smarter then they are.
>>
>> Odds, anyone?
>>
>>
>> "John Barnes" <JBarnes@email.net> wrote in message
>> news:304141F4-45BC-47D2-8C30-129683E98314@microsoft.com...
>>> Very annoying isn't it. I, too, hope it is fixed by RTM. UAC should
>>> have a feature like most firewalls, you have a choice of allow this time
>>> or always allow.
>>>
>>> "Rastaman" <Rasta@work.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ed3MRhq3GHA.4764@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Is there a way to tell UAC that it's OK to run a startup program (in
>>>> this case, AVG Anti-Virus) now, and every other time I start my
>>>> computer?
>>>>
>>>> For the most part, I like UAC, but come on -- It shouldn't need to
>>>> prompt me again, once I tell UAC it's OK....
>>>>
>>>> Or maybe this is an "issue" that will be worked out by RTM?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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