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Old 10-12-2008   #1 (permalink)
GT
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RE: Underwhelmed by SP1

All the problems you face are part of Vista. You can't properly run Vista on
laptops yet. I suggest getting XP or Linux.

"Hank" wrote:
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> Well, I've had no problems with Vista Business on this
> high-end laptop, but nevertheless expected SOMETHING
> when I updated with SP1 this afternoon.
>
> After all the hype, I thought there might be drumrolls,
> trumpets, flashing lights, dancers tripping across the
> screen, a banner announcement. In fact, there was...
> nothing.
>
> How can it be more stable than perfectly stable, or more
> compatible than perfectly compatible?
>
> So... what can this thing do now that it couldn't do
> yesterday?
>
> Hank
>

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Old 10-12-2008   #2 (permalink)
Keith B. Rosenberg
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Re: Underwhelmed by SP1

"GT" <GT@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> All the problems you face are part of Vista. You can't properly run Vista
> on
> laptops yet. I suggest getting XP or Linux.
I have a Vista laptop doing quite well actually. I did set
Vista to maximum performance which got rid of much of
the overhead realted ot the GUI. But I also did that
on my desktop. both run about as well as XP did.
Took some doing early on, but SP1 and patches
have made a real difference.



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Old 10-12-2008   #3 (permalink)
Paul MontGumDropped
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Re: Underwhelmed by SP1

GT wrote:
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> All the problems you face are part of Vista. You can't properly run Vista on
> laptops yet. I suggest getting XP or Linux.
>
What are you talking about? I have been running Vista on a HP dv9000
Vista certified laptop for over a year and a half, with IIS7, SQL Server
2005, VS 2008 and a whole host of other application solutions running in
the background with no problems *none*, and it runs just fine.

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Old 10-13-2008   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Underwhelmed by SP1

"Paul MontGumDropped" <"Paul "@MontGumDropped.com> wrote in message
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> GT wrote:
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>> All the problems you face are part of Vista. You can't properly run
>> Vista on laptops yet. I suggest getting XP or Linux.
>>
>
> What are you talking about? I have been running Vista on a HP dv9000 Vista
> certified laptop for over a year and a half, with IIS7, SQL Server 2005,
> VS 2008 and a whole host of other application solutions running in the
> background with no problems *none*, and it runs just fine.
>

Why do you think you're PC is just fine and other people run into constant
problems with the UAs, crashes, freezes etc?

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Old 10-13-2008   #5 (permalink)
Paul MontGumDropped
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news.microsoft.com wrote:
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> "Paul MontGumDropped" <"Paul "@MontGumDropped.com> wrote in message
> news:Ol6hK0NLJHA.6000@xxxxxx
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>> GT wrote:
Quote:

>>> All the problems you face are part of Vista. You can't properly run
>>> Vista on laptops yet. I suggest getting XP or Linux.
>>>
>>
>> What are you talking about? I have been running Vista on a HP dv9000
>> Vista certified laptop for over a year and a half, with IIS7, SQL
>> Server 2005, VS 2008 and a whole host of other application solutions
>> running in the background with no problems *none*, and it runs just fine.
>>
>
>
> Why do you think you're PC is just fine and other people run into
> constant problems with the UAs, crashes, freezes etc?
Well, I did an upgrade of the O/S over the pre-installed OEM version of
Vista Home Premium to the retail version of Vista Ultimate, because of
something I needed in IIS on Ultimate that HP didn't have in it. So it
may have corrected some problems of a possible bad OEM install.

I don't install anything on the computer that is not Vista compliant,
like software that is dedicated to run on XP. It is nothing but trouble
on Vista. You see, DLL(s) can come from an install package, and those
DLL(s) are dedicated to running on the XP platform. You have common
named DLL(s) that are on both platforms.

So, if a common named DLL from the XP platform supplants a common named
DLL on the Vista platform, then it can, does and will lead to trouble on
the Vista platform, as it not only breaks the software that was
installed, but it can lead to existing software that is Vista compliant
or Vista itself to start having trouble or start breaking, because many
programs are interfacing and using those common named DLL(s) on the
system. Software developers call it DLL H-E-L-L issues.

http://www.bestvistadownloads.com/

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Old 10-13-2008   #6 (permalink)
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"GT" <GT@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> All the problems you face are part of Vista. You can't properly run Vista
> on
> laptops yet. I suggest getting XP or Linux.
>
Vista Home Premium runs fine on our laptop because it's only used to get
email when on the road, and to do a little surfing. Apparently Vista wasn't
designed to use for work or by those with kids who like the games PCs come
with these days, or who want to ad games or work ap's. Vista is only for
surfing and email... at least that's the impression I'm getting from the
regulars here. We can use our old W98 machines for that. ;-)

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Old 10-13-2008   #7 (permalink)
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"Keith B. Rosenberg" <enii@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "GT" <GT@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:5CA07868-E17A-46F2-9180-3ADB016B54B2@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> All the problems you face are part of Vista. You can't properly run
>> Vista on
>> laptops yet. I suggest getting XP or Linux.
>
> I have a Vista laptop doing quite well actually. I did set
> Vista to maximum performance which got rid of much of
> the overhead realted ot the GUI. But I also did that
> on my desktop. both run about as well as XP did.
> Took some doing early on, but SP1 and patches
> have made a real difference.
>
>
What "patches" did you get?


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Old 10-13-2008   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Underwhelmed by SP1

"Paul MontGumDropped" <"Paul "@MontGumDropped.com> wrote in message
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> news.microsoft.com wrote:
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>> "Paul MontGumDropped" <"Paul "@MontGumDropped.com> wrote in message
>> news:Ol6hK0NLJHA.6000@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> GT wrote:
>>>> All the problems you face are part of Vista. You can't properly run
>>>> Vista on laptops yet. I suggest getting XP or Linux.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What are you talking about? I have been running Vista on a HP dv9000
>>> Vista certified laptop for over a year and a half, with IIS7, SQL Server
>>> 2005, VS 2008 and a whole host of other application solutions running in
>>> the background with no problems *none*, and it runs just fine.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Why do you think you're PC is just fine and other people run into
>> constant problems with the UAs, crashes, freezes etc?
>
> Well, I did an upgrade of the O/S over the pre-installed OEM version of
> Vista Home Premium to the retail version of Vista Ultimate, because of
> something I needed in IIS on Ultimate that HP didn't have in it. So it may
> have corrected some problems of a possible bad OEM install.
>
> I don't install anything on the computer that is not Vista compliant, like
> software that is dedicated to run on XP. It is nothing but trouble on
> Vista. You see, DLL(s) can come from an install package, and those DLL(s)
> are dedicated to running on the XP platform. You have common named DLL(s)
> that are on both platforms.
Quote:

>
> So, if a common named DLL from the XP platform supplants a common named
> DLL on the Vista platform, then it can, does and will lead to trouble on
> the Vista platform, as it not only breaks the software that was installed,
> but it can lead to existing software that is Vista compliant or Vista
> itself to start having trouble or start breaking, because many programs
> are interfacing and using those common named DLL(s) on the system.
> Software developers call it DLL H-E-L-L issues.
I understood that and it makes sense. Why then does MS claim older programs
will run on Vista? Why weren't people warned they'd have to replace all
their peripherals and software when buying a machine with Vista as the OS?
You're talking about a considerable amount of money to replace hardware and
software when someone is using their machine for business and kids want to
add their favorite games. And no, no one uses this PC but myself but I have
friends and co-workers who must share their PC with others in the home.
Everyone has their own favorite software to add.

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Old 10-13-2008   #9 (permalink)
Telstar
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Re: Underwhelmed by SP1


"GT" <GT@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> All the problems you face are part of Vista. You can't properly run Vista
> on
> laptops yet. I suggest getting XP or Linux.
Uttter nonsense. I run media mastering programs on an HP laptop. No
crashes, ever.


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Old 10-13-2008   #10 (permalink)
Gordon
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Re: Underwhelmed by SP1

news.microsoft.com wrote:
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> "GT" <GT@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:5CA07868-E17A-46F2-9180-3ADB016B54B2@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> All the problems you face are part of Vista. You can't properly run
>> Vista on
>> laptops yet. I suggest getting XP or Linux.
>>
>
> Vista Home Premium runs fine on our laptop because it's only used to get
> email when on the road, and to do a little surfing. Apparently Vista
> wasn't designed to use for work or by those with kids who like the games
> PCs come with these days, or who want to ad games or work ap's. Vista
> is only for surfing and email... at least that's the impression I'm
> getting from the regulars here. We can use our old W98 machines for
> that. ;-)
You are a TWIT aren't you? There are many thousands doing WORK on Vista
machines using Office applications....like me. And I get NO crashes.
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