Vista - Speculation: WLO discontinue June 2009

11-19-2008

My two cents, why I think it's impossible or not the best idea....

1)No Virus scanner can dedect 100%, imagine this "Morro" can dedect
98%, I am sure I know what kind of virus I get in each 3rd spam mail.

2)Will "Morro" available worldwide for free? In particular in the EU?
I guess I know the decree from some courts because of the requests from
McAfee, Norton, Kaspersky...

Peter

11-19-2008

The announcement noted that subscriptions will continue to be supported through
the end of their term, with renewals and new sales available through the end of
June 2009. So, renewing right up to the end of that period, means you can have a
subscription that is supported through the end of June 2010. You may decide to
switch to the free offering when that becomes available, or continue with your
v2.5 copy of OneCare. The malware engine and signatures will continue to be
updated, according to that announcement. I have no reason to doubt that this
will continue to be true since the new product will be using the same engine and
signatures at te core and it is the same as is used in Forefront.
So, I'd say that if you already have the retail key, go ahead and renew whenever
you wish to extend your subscription out another 12 months from the current
expiration - as it falls within the supported timeframe.

-steve

"Frisbee®" <discgolfdad@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>StephenB wrote:

Quote:

>> Hi, Andrew.
>> That announcement took me by surprise, but in the long run I think it
>> is a good direction. The engine will continue and the fluff will be
>> removed. From my perspective, Tune-up, Backup, Circles, and the rest
>> are complicated overhead for the core concept of OneCare as a
>> protection product.
>> I do hope that they offer these other services/components in another
>> form in the future, though.
>> -steve

>
>Steve, I bought a one-year subscription through the Amazon.com deal, and
>was going to be needing to implement it in the next week or two, as my
>original subscription is about to expire. Do you think it's a waste of
>time, seeing that I'll get services for another six months or so (or so it
>appears) or will they continue to support those with subscriptions, just not
>sell new ones?
>

--
Stephen Boots sboots@xxxxxx
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live
Windows Live OneCare Forum Moderator
http://forums.microsoft.com/windowso....aspx?siteid=2

11-19-2008

Peter Flindt <newsgroups@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>My two cents, why I think it's impossible or not the best idea....
>
>1)No Virus scanner can dedect 100%, imagine this "Morro" can dedect
>98%, I am sure I know what kind of virus I get in each 3rd spam mail.
>
>2)Will "Morro" available worldwide for free? In particular in the EU?
>I guess I know the decree from some courts because of the requests from
>McAfee, Norton, Kaspersky...
>
>Peter
>

You're correct that no scanner is 100% effective. So, the choice is always yours
to use OneCare today or the new product when it is available or any 3rd party
product that you are comfortable with.
The announcements indicated that it will be available in all regions where
OneCare is currently sold at the initial release and it appears that their goal
is to make it available worldwide for free to all users of "Genuine" copies of
activated Windows as soon as possible thereafter. The restraining factor would
likely be localized language versions rather than distribution.
-steve
--
Stephen Boots sboots@xxxxxx
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live
Windows Live OneCare Forum Moderator
http://forums.microsoft.com/windowso....aspx?siteid=2

11-19-2008	#11 (permalink)
Peter Flindt n/a posts	Re: Speculation: WLO discontinue June 2009 My two cents, why I think it's impossible or not the best idea.... 1)No Virus scanner can dedect 100%, imagine this "Morro" can dedect 98%, I am sure I know what kind of virus I get in each 3rd spam mail. 2)Will "Morro" available worldwide for free? In particular in the EU? I guess I know the decree from some courts because of the requests from McAfee, Norton, Kaspersky... Peter
My System Specs

11-19-2008	#12 (permalink)
StephenB n/a posts	Re: Speculation: WLO discontinue June 2009 The announcement noted that subscriptions will continue to be supported through the end of their term, with renewals and new sales available through the end of June 2009. So, renewing right up to the end of that period, means you can have a subscription that is supported through the end of June 2010. You may decide to switch to the free offering when that becomes available, or continue with your v2.5 copy of OneCare. The malware engine and signatures will continue to be updated, according to that announcement. I have no reason to doubt that this will continue to be true since the new product will be using the same engine and signatures at te core and it is the same as is used in Forefront. So, I'd say that if you already have the retail key, go ahead and renew whenever you wish to extend your subscription out another 12 months from the current expiration - as it falls within the supported timeframe. -steve "Frisbee®" <discgolfdad@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >StephenB wrote: Quote: >> Hi, Andrew. >> That announcement took me by surprise, but in the long run I think it >> is a good direction. The engine will continue and the fluff will be >> removed. From my perspective, Tune-up, Backup, Circles, and the rest >> are complicated overhead for the core concept of OneCare as a >> protection product. >> I do hope that they offer these other services/components in another >> form in the future, though. >> -steve > >Steve, I bought a one-year subscription through the Amazon.com deal, and >was going to be needing to implement it in the next week or two, as my >original subscription is about to expire. Do you think it's a waste of >time, seeing that I'll get services for another six months or so (or so it >appears) or will they continue to support those with subscriptions, just not >sell new ones? > -- Stephen Boots sboots@xxxxxx Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Windows Live OneCare Forum Moderator http://forums.microsoft.com/windowso....aspx?siteid=2
My System Specs

11-19-2008	#13 (permalink)
StephenB n/a posts	Re: Speculation: WLO discontinue June 2009 Peter Flindt <newsgroups@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >My two cents, why I think it's impossible or not the best idea.... > >1)No Virus scanner can dedect 100%, imagine this "Morro" can dedect >98%, I am sure I know what kind of virus I get in each 3rd spam mail. > >2)Will "Morro" available worldwide for free? In particular in the EU? >I guess I know the decree from some courts because of the requests from >McAfee, Norton, Kaspersky... > >Peter > You're correct that no scanner is 100% effective. So, the choice is always yours to use OneCare today or the new product when it is available or any 3rd party product that you are comfortable with. The announcements indicated that it will be available in all regions where OneCare is currently sold at the initial release and it appears that their goal is to make it available worldwide for free to all users of "Genuine" copies of activated Windows as soon as possible thereafter. The restraining factor would likely be localized language versions rather than distribution. -steve -- Stephen Boots sboots@xxxxxx Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Windows Live OneCare Forum Moderator http://forums.microsoft.com/windowso....aspx?siteid=2
My System Specs

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