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| | OK, new Vista machine is finsihed indexing, but hard drive still being access continuouksly OK, so how do I find out what is reading my drive continuously, for as long as the machine is on, and stop it? This happens even when no programs are running and it's just the desktop. This is going to kill my drive. C |
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| | Re: OK, new Vista machine is finsihed indexing, but hard drive still being access continuouksly "Chippy" <chipme@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:52AA73FC-4F11-4680-96D1-617D191B0DDB@xxxxxx Quote: > OK, so how do I find out what is reading my drive continuously, for as Quote: > as the machine is on, and stop it? > This happens even when no programs are running and it's just the desktop. > This is going to kill my drive. > C > And the machine specs are???? |
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| | Re: OK, new Vista machine is finsihed indexing, but hard drive still being access continuouksly > This is going to kill my drive. Actually, there is no evidence at all that accessing a drive like that shortens its life. If you don't believe me, find those Google White Papers which discuss at length hard disk failure modes. Nobody gets through more hard disks than Google. Lots of things cause ongoing disk accesses in Vista, and they all operate at the lowest I/O and CPU priorities in order not to affect performance. Apart from indexing, Vista spends a lot of time defragging the disk, preloading stuff into memory in anticipation of you wanting it, and I believe it also shuffles files around on the disk to improve boot performance. Please don't worry. Vista accesses the disk more than XP. Eventually it'll calm down, but you may need to wait several days. SteveT |
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| | Re: OK, new Vista machine is finsihed indexing, but hard drive still being access continuouksly Oh, I forgot: other things which cause ongoing disk access are security software (including Vista's built in anti-malware thing, and certain OS functions such as the automatic creation of restore points, backups, etc. I should also add that excessive disk thrashing can be caused by insufficient RAM (although not normally when the machine is idle for any length of time). You should have 2G of RAM, or more. SteveT |
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| | Re: OK, new Vista machine is finsihed indexing, but hard drive still being access continuouksly > Actually, there is no evidence at all that accessing a drive like that Quote: > shortens its life. If you don't believe me, find those Google White > Papers effects. Yes no one really understands what the heck gravity is, if it is a wave or particle of some sort and how it is generated. Einstein said that it is a curvature of space time.. but that does not describe how it works. But for those who do know how hard drives work would never say what you said. Drives that ae thrashing all the time fail more often in home computers as opposed to the drives that google has, because google has their drives in air-conditioned rooms, with back up power, and no movement. While in most computers they have difference in temp, humidity, electricity may fail or the hard drive could be shocked my movement if it's a laptop or someone kicking the box my mistake if it's a desktop. You don't need to be Einstein to realize this simple thing.. YES DRIVES DIE FAR MORE OFTEN when they keep crunching data!!!! The more data the are reading writing the more the disk head is moving across the disk platter, the more the movement the more possuibility for it to scratch the disk if some of the above reasons happen. "Steve Thackery" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uS$R2ZvSJHA.1164@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: >> This is going to kill my drive. > Actually, there is no evidence at all that accessing a drive like that > shortens its life. If you don't believe me, find those Google White > Papers which discuss at length hard disk failure modes. Nobody gets > through more hard disks than Google. > > Lots of things cause ongoing disk accesses in Vista, and they all operate > at the lowest I/O and CPU priorities in order not to affect performance. > Apart from indexing, Vista spends a lot of time defragging the disk, > preloading stuff into memory in anticipation of you wanting it, and I > believe it also shuffles files around on the disk to improve boot > performance. > > Please don't worry. Vista accesses the disk more than XP. Eventually > it'll calm down, but you may need to wait several days. > > SteveT |
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| | Re: OK, new Vista machine is finsihed indexing, but hard drive still being access continuouksly You can wait several years and vista will still access the disk far more than XP ever did (on the same hardware) Quote: > I should also add that excessive disk thrashing can be caused by > insufficient RAM (although not normally when the machine is idle for any > length of time). You should have 2G of RAM, or more. No? Yes? Oh you have? And you still are here to remind us about vista needing 2 gigs just to function properly? LOL "Steve Thackery" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eWlGtCwSJHA.5900@xxxxxx Quote: > Oh, I forgot: other things which cause ongoing disk access are security > software (including Vista's built in anti-malware thing, and certain OS > functions such as the automatic creation of restore points, backups, etc. > > I should also add that excessive disk thrashing can be caused by > insufficient RAM (although not normally when the machine is idle for any > length of time). You should have 2G of RAM, or more. > > SteveT |
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| | Re: OK, new Vista machine is finsihed indexing, but hard drive still being access continuouksly Oh.. and I forgot to mention.. google doesn't run an OS prone to crashes... lol Ok lets say vista is not the culprit always.. nevertheless, computer crashes and abrupt restarts is the worst thing that can happen for a disk while its reading writing... again because the head is moving it can create far more damage than if it was just sitting in one place... Google is probably running some version of linux on its servers.. and not vista... :-) They don't install apps and drivers all the time... why am I here analyzing it so much?.. he is right.. the disk lifespan is reduced statistically the more its being thrashed. "Steve Thackery" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uS$R2ZvSJHA.1164@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: >> This is going to kill my drive. > Actually, there is no evidence at all that accessing a drive like that > shortens its life. If you don't believe me, find those Google White > Papers which discuss at length hard disk failure modes. Nobody gets > through more hard disks than Google. > > Lots of things cause ongoing disk accesses in Vista, and they all operate > at the lowest I/O and CPU priorities in order not to affect performance. > Apart from indexing, Vista spends a lot of time defragging the disk, > preloading stuff into memory in anticipation of you wanting it, and I > believe it also shuffles files around on the disk to improve boot > performance. > > Please don't worry. Vista accesses the disk more than XP. Eventually > it'll calm down, but you may need to wait several days. > > SteveT |
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| | Re: OK, new Vista machine is finsihed indexing, but hard drive still being access continuouksly Has your "new" computer become part of (one of many) a bot net? This would certainly account for disk activity as your computer spews out hundreds of thousands of bogus emails per day - behind your back. Get a good internet monitoring program to see if this is happening. I use NetMeter. I went to my sons house a few weeks back. He had not actively used his computer for a couple of hours. Yet, NetMeter showed that his out going stream was using about 2.1 meg of bandwidth. This went on for over 2 hours. His computer was "owned" as it turned out. After retreating to a system image I had created for him a few weeks prior all activity stopped and his hard disk was again quiet. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Chippy" <chipme@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:52AA73FC-4F11-4680-96D1-617D191B0DDB@xxxxxx Quote: > OK, so how do I find out what is reading my drive continuously, for as > long as the machine is on, and stop it? > This happens even when no programs are running and it's just the desktop. > This is going to kill my drive. > C |
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| | Re: OK, new Vista machine is finsihed indexing, but hard drive still being access continuouksly "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:u3%23pB0xSJHA.6060@xxxxxx Quote: > Has your "new" computer become part of (one of many) a bot net? This would > certainly account for disk activity as your computer spews out hundreds of > thousands of bogus emails per day - behind your back. > you have to uncheck the box in settings so you dont allow file sharing from other users. |
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| | Re: OK, new Vista machine is finsihed indexing, but hard drive still being access continuouksly >Leave the machine on 24/7, it will settle down after a day or 2 fail "Bob Campbell" <bob@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:UpGdnYRy-8lv_bjUnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@xxxxxx Quote: > "illjilli" <illjilli@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:492550b5$1@xxxxxx-privat.org... Quote: >> why am I here analyzing it so much?.. he is right.. the disk lifespan is >> reduced statistically the more its being thrashed. > There is a difference between a disk being "accessed" and a disk being > "thrashed". Excessive "thrashing" may shorten the life of a drive, but > "accessing" will certainly not. > > The OP needs to relax. A new Vista install will have lots of drive > activity as things get organized. Leave the machine on 24/7, it will > settle down after a day or 2. If the drive does in fact die, then it was > defective and will be covered under warranty anyways. |
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