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| | How To Fix Most Vista Problems & How To Install It Properly 1. Have a copy of Service Pack 1, Anti-virus/spyware/adware software and firewall software and any other security software you use avaliable on an external copy. 2. Back up your files to an external source. 3. OEM software is crap, pointless and uses memory and space and makes the OS unclean and unstable. 4. Always clean install, never Never NEVER upgrade from a previous OS. This is the worst thing you can do. If you only own an upgrade copy Simply do a clean install (don't put in the licence) then do an upgrade install once the OS is installed and put in your licence. Takes more time to install twice but it's worth it. 5. b) If you have bought a computer with Vista installed on it just find someone with a retail (Not OEM) Vista DVD (remember every retail Vista DVD is the same and has all versions on it). Use the licence on the sticker of your computer to install it. 5. a) I recommend booting from the Vista CD and formatting the drives (remember you have backed up to an external source). You can access the Command Prompt from the Vista DVD to format hard drives. 6. Boot from the Vista DVD and then use the product key stuck on your computer or where ever it may be to install a clean copy on a clean hard drive. What you will have is Vista installed the way Microsoft intended it to be without any rubbish to disrupt its performance. 7. Install Service Pack 1 -then- Install Security Software -then- go online and Activate Windows, Update your security software and use Windows Update to update Microsoft products. Now copy your files back to your computer. 8. Then Install other third party software and drivers and check for important updates from your computer's manufacturer website for necessary updates like Bios updates etc... You may have to go to different Hardware manufacturer's website's and get drivers directly from them (example video card software) for better performance. Basically Vista works best if you install a clean retail copy on a clean hard drive and then keep it and it's software up to date. Always start with a clean slate. So don't winge about problems if you haven't installed from a clean slate. Follow these instructons at your own risk as I am not sure it will work for every one. |
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| | RE: How To Fix Most Vista Problems & How To Install It Properly Oh and when Windows 7 comes out the same will apply. Although Upgrading from Vista might not be quite as bad as it has been from 2000/XP to Vista is. |
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| | Re: How To Fix Most Vista Problems & How To Install It Properly "goorambatman" <goorambatman@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:58F7A26D-D84F-4C37-9242-816388CE5DD5@xxxxxx Quote: > > 3. OEM software is crap, pointless and uses memory and space and makes > the > OS unclean and unstable. Quote: > 4. Always clean install, never Never NEVER upgrade from a previous OS. > This is the worst thing you can do. If you only own an upgrade copy > Simply > do a clean install (don't put in the licence) then do an upgrade install > once > the OS is installed and put in your licence. Takes more time to install > twice but it's worth it. > > 5. b) If you have bought a computer with Vista installed on it just find > someone with a retail (Not OEM) Vista DVD (remember every retail Vista DVD > is > the same and has all versions on it). Use the licence on the sticker of > your > computer to install it. with a OEM product key. Do you REALLY know what you are talking about? Quote: > > 5. a) I recommend booting from the Vista CD and formatting the drives > (remember you have backed up to an external source). You can access the > Command Prompt from the Vista DVD to format hard drives. > > 6. Boot from the Vista DVD and then use the product key stuck on your > computer or where ever it may be to install a clean copy on a clean hard > drive. What you will have is Vista installed the way Microsoft intended > it > to be without any rubbish to disrupt its performance. > > 7. Install Service Pack 1 -then- Install Security Software -then- go > online > and Activate Windows, Update your security software and use Windows Update > to > update Microsoft products. Now copy your files back to your computer. Quote: > Basically Vista works best if you install a clean retail copy on a clean > hard drive and then keep it and it's software up to date. Always start > with > a clean slate. > > So don't winge about problems if you haven't installed from a clean slate. Absolute rubbish. -- Asking a question? Please tell us your OS, Service Pack level and the FULL contents of any error message(s) |
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| | Re: How To Fix Most Vista Problems & How To Install It Properly In article <58F7A26D-D84F-4C37-9242-816388CE5DD5@xxxxxx>, goorambatman <goorambatman@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > 4. Always clean install, never Never NEVER upgrade from a previous OS. have XP, so updating should be the most common installation type, and therefore the most tested and well-developed by Microsoft, shouldn't it? On the Mac having a fresh installation automatically import user data from an old one is a bit less robust than updating. Oh wait, Vista doesn't have that option, right? -- Tobias Weber |
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| | Re: How To Fix Most Vista Problems & How To Install It Properly I have used a key for an OEM version of windows to install the clean retail version, but i can't remember which brand of laptop it was, worked very very well though. As I said at the bottom, I warned people it might not work in all cases. "Gordon" wrote: Quote: > "goorambatman" <goorambatman@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:58F7A26D-D84F-4C37-9242-816388CE5DD5@xxxxxx Quote: > > > > 3. OEM software is crap, pointless and uses memory and space and makes > > the > > OS unclean and unstable. > So how is MS Office 2007 OEM "crap and pointless"? > > Quote: > > 4. Always clean install, never Never NEVER upgrade from a previous OS. > > This is the worst thing you can do. If you only own an upgrade copy > > Simply > > do a clean install (don't put in the licence) then do an upgrade install > > once > > the OS is installed and put in your licence. Takes more time to install > > twice but it's worth it. > > > > 5. b) If you have bought a computer with Vista installed on it just find > > someone with a retail (Not OEM) Vista DVD (remember every retail Vista DVD > > is > > the same and has all versions on it). Use the licence on the sticker of > > your > > computer to install it. > Sorry won't work. Pre-installed Vista is OEM. A Retail CD/DVD WILL NOT WORK > with a OEM product key. Do you REALLY know what you are talking about? > > Quote: > > > > 5. a) I recommend booting from the Vista CD and formatting the drives > > (remember you have backed up to an external source). You can access the > > Command Prompt from the Vista DVD to format hard drives. > > > > 6. Boot from the Vista DVD and then use the product key stuck on your > > computer or where ever it may be to install a clean copy on a clean hard > > drive. What you will have is Vista installed the way Microsoft intended > > it > > to be without any rubbish to disrupt its performance. > > > > 7. Install Service Pack 1 -then- Install Security Software -then- go > > online > > and Activate Windows, Update your security software and use Windows Update > > to > > update Microsoft products. Now copy your files back to your computer. > I don't think you can install SP1 on an un-activated installation.... > > > Quote: > > Basically Vista works best if you install a clean retail copy on a clean > > hard drive and then keep it and it's software up to date. Always start > > with > > a clean slate. > > > > So don't winge about problems if you haven't installed from a clean slate. > > Absolute rubbish. > > > -- > Asking a question? > Please tell us your OS, Service Pack level > and the FULL contents of any error message(s) > > |
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| | RE: How To Fix Most Vista Problems & How To Install It Properly not all Bundled software is bad, bundled office is of but personally I don't like OEM windows due to the bundled rubbish. |
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| | Re: How To Fix Most Vista Problems & How To Install It Properly "goorambatman" <goorambatman@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:AEE0A650-B745-4785-9D2A-5782F3074E35@xxxxxx Quote: >I have used a key for an OEM version of windows to install the clean retail > version, but i can't remember which brand of laptop it was, worked very > very > well though. > And did you manage to activate it? -- Asking a question? Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about, your OS, Service Pack level and the FULL contents of any error message(s) |
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| | Re: How To Fix Most Vista Problems & How To Install It Properly Everyones experience will vary. I have Vista machines that work fine (just because it's very poorly designed doesn't always make it unstable) and others that just plain suck due to driver issues. That is as much the hardware vendors fault as Vista's. I just plain do not like the design and implementation of many of the 'features'. I have used it since early Beta and still ask myself, what MORON would do it that way... Vista is a great argument AGAINST design by committee. BTW: amatuers that know just enough to NOT know they are clueless can be really bothersome... "goorambatman" <goorambatman@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:58F7A26D-D84F-4C37-9242-816388CE5DD5@xxxxxx Quote: > 1. Have a copy of Service Pack 1, Anti-virus/spyware/adware software and > firewall software and any other security software you use avaliable on an > external copy. > > 2. Back up your files to an external source. > > 3. OEM software is crap, pointless and uses memory and space and makes > the > OS unclean and unstable. > > 4. Always clean install, never Never NEVER upgrade from a previous OS. > This is the worst thing you can do. If you only own an upgrade copy > Simply > do a clean install (don't put in the licence) then do an upgrade install > once > the OS is installed and put in your licence. Takes more time to install > twice but it's worth it. > > 5. b) If you have bought a computer with Vista installed on it just find > someone with a retail (Not OEM) Vista DVD (remember every retail Vista DVD > is > the same and has all versions on it). Use the licence on the sticker of > your > computer to install it. > > 5. a) I recommend booting from the Vista CD and formatting the drives > (remember you have backed up to an external source). You can access the > Command Prompt from the Vista DVD to format hard drives. > > 6. Boot from the Vista DVD and then use the product key stuck on your > computer or where ever it may be to install a clean copy on a clean hard > drive. What you will have is Vista installed the way Microsoft intended > it > to be without any rubbish to disrupt its performance. > > 7. Install Service Pack 1 -then- Install Security Software -then- go > online > and Activate Windows, Update your security software and use Windows Update > to > update Microsoft products. Now copy your files back to your computer. > > > 8. Then Install other third party software and drivers and check for > important updates from your computer's manufacturer website for necessary > updates like Bios updates etc... > You may have to go to different Hardware manufacturer's website's and get > drivers directly from them (example video card software) for better > performance. > > > > Basically Vista works best if you install a clean retail copy on a clean > hard drive and then keep it and it's software up to date. Always start > with > a clean slate. > > So don't winge about problems if you haven't installed from a clean slate. > > > > Follow these instructons at your own risk as I am not sure it will work > for > every one. |
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| | Re: How To Fix Most Vista Problems & How To Install It Properly "goorambatman" <goorambatman@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:A84DF4B4-8C4B-46C9-84DE-56D455A95AFC@xxxxxx Quote: > > not all Bundled software is bad, bundled office is of but personally I > don't > like OEM windows due to the bundled rubbish. It is the manufacturer/vendor who is responsible for the crap on a pre-installed system, and it is easy enough to go into 'Programs and Features' to delete all of it. The 'system builder' (OEM) version of Vista has no 3rd party stuff and crap on it.. -- Mike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx |
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| | Re: How To Fix Most Vista Problems & How To Install It Properly On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 00:51:01 -0800, goorambatman <goorambatman@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > 1. Have a copy of Service Pack 1, Anti-virus/spyware/adware software and > firewall software and any other security software you use avaliable on an > external copy. > > 2. Back up your files to an external source. > > 3. OEM software is crap, pointless and uses memory and space and makes the > OS unclean and unstable. Although that is sometimes true, it isn't necessarily true all the time. Quote: > 4. Always clean install, never Never NEVER upgrade from a previous OS. That's terrible advice. Many years ago, with much older versions of Windows, it was generally good advice, but these days it hardly ever is. In fact, my recommendation is that almost everyone *should* do an upgrade, since it's much easier, and worst case, you do it over cleanly if problems occur. The major exception to my recommendation is if you are currently having problems. An upgrade is unlikely to solve the problems, and may exacerbate them. My installation of Vista here, was an upgrade from XP two years ago, and it's been completely problem-free. Quote: > This is the worst thing you can do. If you only own an upgrade copy Simply > do a clean install (don't put in the licence) then do an upgrade install once > the OS is installed and put in your licence. Takes more time to install > twice but it's worth it. > > 5. b) If you have bought a computer with Vista installed on it just find > someone with a retail (Not OEM) Vista DVD (remember every retail Vista DVD is > the same and has all versions on it). Use the licence on the sticker of your > computer to install it. And that can't be done. OEM Product keys can *not* be used on retail versions. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
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