Still a way to go

Finally got around to installing the 32bit version of build 5728 and found 4
bugs in the 1st 10 minutes of use.

I'd say the RTM build number will be atleast 6000 at this rate.

"Intel Inside" <REMOVETHISBIT@com> wrote in message
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> Finally got around to installing the 32bit version of build 5728 and found
> 4 bugs in the 1st 10 minutes of use.

Such as?

"Chupacabra" <chupa@cabra.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Intel Inside" <REMOVETHISBIT@com> wrote in message
> news:u8PlYb34GHA.5012@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
>> Finally got around to installing the 32bit version of build 5728 and
>> found 4 bugs in the 1st 10 minutes of use.
>
> Such as?

I don't know if this is one of the original author's issues, but a large
number of people cannot add network printer's. It simply says Access
Denied. I have yet to find a solution for this after hours of searching.

Don't worry, I hope to report them to MS this weekend.
I've gone back to using XP for now. I sure hope there is a RC2 (even if it
is just downloadable).


"Chupacabra" <chupa@cabra.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Intel Inside" <REMOVETHISBIT@com> wrote in message
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>
>> Finally got around to installing the 32bit version of build 5728 and
>> found 4 bugs in the 1st 10 minutes of use.
>
> Such as?

"Intel Inside" wrote

> Don't worry, I hope to report them to MS this weekend.
> I've gone back to using XP for now. I sure hope there is a RC2 (even if
> it is just downloadable).


An RC2 is highly improbable. There will be at least one more build for
TechBeta, but not RC2, and I don't know if the TechBeta build will be
released publicly as 5728 was.

--

Rock [ MVP User/Shell]

"Rock" <rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> "Intel Inside" wrote
>
>> Don't worry, I hope to report them to MS this weekend.
>> I've gone back to using XP for now. I sure hope there is a RC2 (even if
>> it is just downloadable).
>
>
> An RC2 is highly improbable. There will be at least one more build for
> TechBeta, but not RC2, and I don't know if the TechBeta build will be
> released publicly as 5728 was.
>
> --
>
> Rock [ MVP User/Shell]


You said "I don't know if the TechBeta build will be released publicly as
5728 was".

You could be right, but if someone like me can find 4 bugs in the 1st 10
minutes of use, maybe the build you spoke of should be released to CPP too.
Tom Ziegmann has encouraged CPP members in here to submit bug reports.
Remember, if you don't find the bugs before RTM, Vista will be bagged
severely on final release.
Roll on SP1.

Rock wrote:
> "Intel Inside" wrote
>
>> Don't worry, I hope to report them to MS this weekend.
>> I've gone back to using XP for now. I sure hope there is a RC2 (even
>> if it is just downloadable).
>
>
> An RC2 is highly improbable. There will be at least one more build for
> TechBeta, but not RC2, and I don't know if the TechBeta build will be
> released publicly as 5728 was.
>

Well, I have talked recently with Microsoft and they are very interested
in having Vista stable, before general release, so it probably will end
up being released for public testing, although perhaps not initially.
Microsoft could always have an expiration date for the software, that
would prevent using it beyond a certain date, if it is mostly stable and
they are worried someone would continue using a pre-retail build and not
buy the actual retail build. I hope the Sound Blaster Audigy issue and
general poor use of the sound panel that kept crashing with builds 5600
and 5728 are fixed in the next build and Creative and Microsoft don't
wait all the way to RTM (Release to Manufacturing) for a fix. Someone
else posted about having success using the Windows XP driver(s) with the
Sound Blaster Audigy (2? I think). I have now learned with the testing
of this product to try the earlier driver that is for XP first
especially if the Vista one is in beta to see if that will work.

"Dan W." <spamyou@user.nec> wrote in message
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> Rock wrote:
>> "Intel Inside" wrote
>>
>>> Don't worry, I hope to report them to MS this weekend.
>>> I've gone back to using XP for now. I sure hope there is a RC2 (even
>>> if it is just downloadable).
>>
>>
>> An RC2 is highly improbable. There will be at least one more build for
>> TechBeta, but not RC2, and I don't know if the TechBeta build will be
>> released publicly as 5728 was.
>>
>
> Well, I have talked recently with Microsoft and they are very interested
> in having Vista stable, before general release, so it probably will end up
> being released for public testing, although perhaps not initially.
> Microsoft could always have an expiration date for the software, that
> would prevent using it beyond a certain date, if it is mostly stable and
> they are worried someone would continue using a pre-retail build and not
> buy the actual retail build. I hope the Sound Blaster Audigy issue and
> general poor use of the sound panel that kept crashing with builds 5600
> and 5728 are fixed in the next build and Creative and Microsoft don't wait
> all the way to RTM (Release to Manufacturing) for a fix. Someone else
> posted about having success using the Windows XP driver(s) with the Sound
> Blaster Audigy (2? I think). I have now learned with the testing of this
> product to try the earlier driver that is for XP first especially if the
> Vista one is in beta to see if that will work.

Dan,
I suggest submitting a bug report from within Vista for these issues
otherwise MS thinks Vista is 'ready'.

"Intel Inside" wrote

> "Dan W." wrote

>> Rock wrote:
>>> "Intel Inside" wrote
>>>
>>>> Don't worry, I hope to report them to MS this weekend.
>>>> I've gone back to using XP for now. I sure hope there is a RC2 (even
>>>> if it is just downloadable).
>>>
>>>
>>> An RC2 is highly improbable. There will be at least one more build for
>>> TechBeta, but not RC2, and I don't know if the TechBeta build will be
>>> released publicly as 5728 was.
>>>
>>
>> Well, I have talked recently with Microsoft and they are very interested
>> in having Vista stable, before general release, so it probably will end
>> up being released for public testing, although perhaps not initially.
>> Microsoft could always have an expiration date for the software, that
>> would prevent using it beyond a certain date, if it is mostly stable and
>> they are worried someone would continue using a pre-retail build and not
>> buy the actual retail build. I hope the Sound Blaster Audigy issue and
>> general poor use of the sound panel that kept crashing with builds 5600
>> and 5728 are fixed in the next build and Creative and Microsoft don't
>> wait all the way to RTM (Release to Manufacturing) for a fix. Someone
>> else posted about having success using the Windows XP driver(s) with the
>> Sound Blaster Audigy (2? I think). I have now learned with the testing
>> of this product to try the earlier driver that is for XP first especially
>> if the Vista one is in beta to see if that will work.

> Dan,
> I suggest submitting a bug report from within Vista for these issues
> otherwise MS thinks Vista is 'ready'.



The problem with Creative sound cards is well known and has been bugged.
The Creative Beta 2 drivers work for some, but are flaky. Creative says
they will have stable drivers by RTM.

--

Rock [ MVP User/Shell]

"Rock" <rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> "Intel Inside" wrote
>
>> "Dan W." wrote
>
>>> Rock wrote:
>>>> "Intel Inside" wrote
>>>>
>>>>> Don't worry, I hope to report them to MS this weekend.
>>>>> I've gone back to using XP for now. I sure hope there is a RC2 (even
>>>>> if it is just downloadable).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> An RC2 is highly improbable. There will be at least one more build for
>>>> TechBeta, but not RC2, and I don't know if the TechBeta build will be
>>>> released publicly as 5728 was.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I have talked recently with Microsoft and they are very interested
>>> in having Vista stable, before general release, so it probably will end
>>> up being released for public testing, although perhaps not initially.
>>> Microsoft could always have an expiration date for the software, that
>>> would prevent using it beyond a certain date, if it is mostly stable and
>>> they are worried someone would continue using a pre-retail build and not
>>> buy the actual retail build. I hope the Sound Blaster Audigy issue and
>>> general poor use of the sound panel that kept crashing with builds 5600
>>> and 5728 are fixed in the next build and Creative and Microsoft don't
>>> wait all the way to RTM (Release to Manufacturing) for a fix. Someone
>>> else posted about having success using the Windows XP driver(s) with the
>>> Sound Blaster Audigy (2? I think). I have now learned with the testing
>>> of this product to try the earlier driver that is for XP first
>>> especially if the Vista one is in beta to see if that will work.
>
>> Dan,
>> I suggest submitting a bug report from within Vista for these issues
>> otherwise MS thinks Vista is 'ready'.
>
>
>
> The problem with Creative sound cards is well known and has been bugged.
> The Creative Beta 2 drivers work for some, but are flaky. Creative says
> they will have stable drivers by RTM.
>
> --
>
> Rock [ MVP User/Shell]

You wrote "Creative says they will have stable drivers by RTM."
Fair enough, just like NVidia will have stable drivers too.
I think there should be another interim release with all of the stable
drivers included *before* RTM.