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Old 12-14-2008   #1 (permalink)
lforbes


 
 

Re: Cannot Save Changes to Folder Options

Don't worry about the Everyone group unless you are in a network.

Users are Authenticated, Everyone is not. Maybe Vista removed the Everyone
with Vista. It was still there in XP. It is not needed if it is not there
already.

"Keith Russell" wrote:
Quote:

> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:56:00 -0800, lforbes
> <lforbes@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

> >Hi,
> >
> >I hate Vista trying to protect me from myself. As a network admin for 20
> >years I don't need my OS refusing to do something that I want it to do.
> >
> >Therefore I reset all the permissions on C:\ to Windows XP permissions.
> >Basically you have to logon as administrator - take ownership of the entire
> >drive and force it to overright all subfolders.
> >
> >You then need to give administrators Full-Control and System Full Control.
> >Users Read and Everyone Read-This Folder only.
> >
> >If you need specifics on how to set the permissions just let me know. You
> >may need to startup in safe mode if you don't see the security tab.
>
> Thank you for the suggestions. I do have two questions. I think I
> understand permissions pretty well, but I'm a little confused by "Users
> Read and Everyone Read-This Folder only." Just to be sure I understand
> what you're saying, can you clarify what you mean by "This Folder only"?
>
> Also, the Everyone group is not listed by default. Are you suggesting I
> add it?
>
> Thanks again. (Feal free to email me to save bandwidth for other
> newsgroup subscribers.)
>
> --
> Keith
>
> --
> Keith Russell
> keithr@xxxxxx
>

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Old 12-14-2008   #2 (permalink)
Keith Russell


 
 

Re: Cannot Save Changes to Folder Options

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:41:00 -0800, lforbes
<lforbes@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>Don't worry about the Everyone group unless you are in a network.
>
>Users are Authenticated, Everyone is not. Maybe Vista removed the Everyone
>with Vista. It was still there in XP. It is not needed if it is not there
>already.
Peer-to-peer network only, so it's not an issue, I guess.

The Everyone group is still there, but it's de-emphasized in Vista, I
guess. I was just saying that the security tab for the folders I looked
at didn't have it listed with assigned permissions. I'll just change the
ones that are already there.

What about the "This Folder Only" part? What did you mean?

--
Keith Russell
keithr@xxxxxx
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-14-2008   #3 (permalink)
lforbes


 
 

Re: Cannot Save Changes to Folder Options

Permissions can be set one of two ways. You have to go into the advanced tab
though to see them which is about 3 levels deep in Vista.

Basically the default when you set permissions is "This Folder, Subfolders
and Files" which means that the permission is therefore inherited down for
all subfolders.

The second option is "This folder and subfolders" which means the
permissions extend to the subfolders but not the files.

The third option is "This folder only" which means if you set
"everyone=read" on C: to "this folder only" than the Everyone group will not
exist at all on any subfolders or files.

Cheers,
Lara

"Keith Russell" wrote:
Quote:

> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:41:00 -0800, lforbes
> <lforbes@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

> >Don't worry about the Everyone group unless you are in a network.
> >
> >Users are Authenticated, Everyone is not. Maybe Vista removed the Everyone
> >with Vista. It was still there in XP. It is not needed if it is not there
> >already.
>
> Peer-to-peer network only, so it's not an issue, I guess.
>
> The Everyone group is still there, but it's de-emphasized in Vista, I
> guess. I was just saying that the security tab for the folders I looked
> at didn't have it listed with assigned permissions. I'll just change the
> ones that are already there.
>
> What about the "This Folder Only" part? What did you mean?
>
> --
> Keith Russell
> keithr@xxxxxx
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-15-2008   #4 (permalink)
Keith Russell


 
 

Re: Cannot Save Changes to Folder Options

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:34:01 -0800, lforbes
<lforbes@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>Permissions can be set one of two ways. You have to go into the advanced tab
>though to see them which is about 3 levels deep in Vista.
>
>Basically the default when you set permissions is "This Folder, Subfolders
>and Files" which means that the permission is therefore inherited down for
>all subfolders.
>
>The second option is "This folder and subfolders" which means the
>permissions extend to the subfolders but not the files.
>
>The third option is "This folder only" which means if you set
>"everyone=read" on C: to "this folder only" than the Everyone group will not
>exist at all on any subfolders or files.
>
>Cheers,
>Lara
>
>"Keith Russell" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:41:00 -0800, lforbes
>> <lforbes@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>
Quote:

>> >Don't worry about the Everyone group unless you are in a network.
>> >
>> >Users are Authenticated, Everyone is not. Maybe Vista removed the Everyone
>> >with Vista. It was still there in XP. It is not needed if it is not there
>> >already.
>>
>> Peer-to-peer network only, so it's not an issue, I guess.
>>
>> The Everyone group is still there, but it's de-emphasized in Vista, I
>> guess. I was just saying that the security tab for the folders I looked
>> at didn't have it listed with assigned permissions. I'll just change the
>> ones that are already there.
>>
>> What about the "This Folder Only" part? What did you mean?
>>
>> --
>> Keith Russell
>> keithr@xxxxxx
>>
--
Keith Russell
keithr@xxxxxx
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-15-2008   #5 (permalink)
Keith Russell


 
 

Re: Cannot Save Changes to Folder Options

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:34:01 -0800, lforbes
<lforbes@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>The third option is "This folder only" which means if you set
>"everyone=read" on C: to "this folder only" than the Everyone group will not
>exist at all on any subfolders or files.
So...when you said:
Quote:

>Therefore I reset all the permissions on C:\ to Windows XP permissions.
>Basically you have to logon as administrator - take ownership of the entire
>drive and force it to overright all subfolders.
>
>You then need to give administrators Full-Control and System Full Control.
>Users Read and Everyone Read-This Folder only.
were you saying that Administrator ownership should be set for all
folders (and files, too?), and permissions set (as in your second
paragraph) for the root folder only?

--
Thanks,
Keith

--
Keith Russell
keithr@xxxxxx
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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