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Cloning my entire "C" HDD?

  1. #1


    Terence Oliver Guest

    Cloning my entire "C" HDD?

    I'm running Vista Ultimate and I'd like to clone my entire "C" HDD
    just in case there is a HDD failure or a Vista crash.

    I know there are some programs like Norton Ghost, but I learn that there
    are some activation related issues when cloning hard drives with Vista
    installed?

    I'll appreciate any help regarding this matter, after going to clean install
    Vista for
    the fourth time I'd like to have a duplicate of my "C" HDD with Vista and
    all
    my programs installed.

    What is the best way to achieve this?

    Thanks in advance! And...... HAPPY NEW YEAR!

    Terence.


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  2. #2


    Bender Guest

    Re: Cloning my entire "C" HDD?

    Since you are using Vista Ultimate, why don't you use the built in program
    that comes with Ultimate?
    That would be Full Backup, it will image your system.

    "Terence Oliver" <terencexx@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:ujPCtB8aJHA.4072@xxxxxx

    > I'm running Vista Ultimate and I'd like to clone my entire "C" HDD
    > just in case there is a HDD failure or a Vista crash.
    >
    > I know there are some programs like Norton Ghost, but I learn that there
    > are some activation related issues when cloning hard drives with Vista
    > installed?
    >
    > I'll appreciate any help regarding this matter, after going to clean
    > install Vista for
    > the fourth time I'd like to have a duplicate of my "C" HDD with Vista and
    > all
    > my programs installed.
    >
    > What is the best way to achieve this?
    >
    > Thanks in advance! And...... HAPPY NEW YEAR!
    >
    > Terence.

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  3. #3


    Earle Horton Guest

    Re: Cloning my entire "C" HDD?

    If you clone the hard drive and the destination partition is different you
    may have to run the Vista install disk in repair mode to fix the Vista Boot
    Manager data store, so you can boot the cloned system. This is not as big a
    deal as it seems.

    If you change enough hardware then versions of Windows and Office since XP
    will require reactivation. This is not a big deal either. If you
    intentionally clone hard drives to get around licensing restrictions that is
    considered piracy. The kind of cloning you are talking about would not be
    piracy.

    I use Norton Ghost for this purpose and it works well. I have the 2003
    version, which I believe is the last one to run in a DOS environment. It
    has the ability to clone a hard disk or partition to an image file with
    compression This can be restored to a working disk later. In fact I did so
    yesterday. You can also use it to enlarge or shrink partitions. Just make
    an image file, and copy it to a different sized partition. This method is
    not as slick as some of the other methods available.

    Earle

    "Terence Oliver" <terencexx@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:ujPCtB8aJHA.4072@xxxxxx

    > I'm running Vista Ultimate and I'd like to clone my entire "C" HDD
    > just in case there is a HDD failure or a Vista crash.
    >
    > I know there are some programs like Norton Ghost, but I learn that there
    > are some activation related issues when cloning hard drives with Vista
    > installed?
    >
    > I'll appreciate any help regarding this matter, after going to clean
    > install Vista for
    > the fourth time I'd like to have a duplicate of my "C" HDD with Vista and
    > all
    > my programs installed.
    >
    > What is the best way to achieve this?
    >
    > Thanks in advance! And...... HAPPY NEW YEAR!
    >
    > Terence.


      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  4. #4


    olfart Guest

    Re: Cloning my entire "C" HDD?


    "Terence Oliver" <terencexx@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:ujPCtB8aJHA.4072@xxxxxx

    > I'm running Vista Ultimate and I'd like to clone my entire "C" HDD
    > just in case there is a HDD failure or a Vista crash.
    >
    > I know there are some programs like Norton Ghost, but I learn that there
    > are some activation related issues when cloning hard drives with Vista
    > installed?
    >
    > I'll appreciate any help regarding this matter, after going to clean
    > install Vista for
    > the fourth time I'd like to have a duplicate of my "C" HDD with Vista and
    > all
    > my programs installed.
    >
    > What is the best way to achieve this?
    >
    > Thanks in advance! And...... HAPPY NEW YEAR!
    >
    > Terence.
    look at Casper
    http://www.fssdev.com/



      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  5. #5


    Richard Urban Guest

    Re: Cloning my entire "C" HDD?

    The O/P wants to know about cloning a disk. You are talking about a backup.
    they are 2 entirely different animals.

    --

    Richard Urban
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Desktop Experience


    "Tyro" <Tyro@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:CYW6l.10198$D32.9675@xxxxxx

    > Click Start. Click System and Maintenance. Click Backup and Restore
    > Center. Click Backup Computer. Select your external hard disk formatted as
    > NTFS. You can also backup to multiple DVD's but an external HD is the way
    > to go. Vista will make a complete copy of everything on your system. You
    > can restore from that disk.
    >
    > Tyro
    >
    >
    > "Terence Oliver" <terencexx@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:ujPCtB8aJHA.4072@xxxxxx

    >> I'm running Vista Ultimate and I'd like to clone my entire "C" HDD
    >> just in case there is a HDD failure or a Vista crash.
    >>
    >> I know there are some programs like Norton Ghost, but I learn that there
    >> are some activation related issues when cloning hard drives with Vista
    >> installed?
    >>
    >> I'll appreciate any help regarding this matter, after going to clean
    >> install Vista for
    >> the fourth time I'd like to have a duplicate of my "C" HDD with Vista and
    >> all
    >> my programs installed.
    >>
    >> What is the best way to achieve this?
    >>
    >> Thanks in advance! And...... HAPPY NEW YEAR!
    >>
    >> Terence.
    >

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  6. #6


    Richard Urban Guest

    Re: Cloning my entire "C" HDD?

    You need an imaging application to clone a disk. One of the best is
    TrueImage HOME from www.acronis.com.

    You can make an exact copy of your hard drive and then disconnect the target
    drive for removal and storage in a remote location. If the original drive
    goes south just swap the drives and you are back in operation within a few
    minutes.

    --

    Richard Urban
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Desktop Experience


    "Terence Oliver" <terencexx@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:ujPCtB8aJHA.4072@xxxxxx

    > I'm running Vista Ultimate and I'd like to clone my entire "C" HDD
    > just in case there is a HDD failure or a Vista crash.
    >
    > I know there are some programs like Norton Ghost, but I learn that there
    > are some activation related issues when cloning hard drives with Vista
    > installed?
    >
    > I'll appreciate any help regarding this matter, after going to clean
    > install Vista for
    > the fourth time I'd like to have a duplicate of my "C" HDD with Vista and
    > all
    > my programs installed.
    >
    > What is the best way to achieve this?
    >
    > Thanks in advance! And...... HAPPY NEW YEAR!
    >
    > Terence.

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  7. #7


    Richie Hardwick Guest

    Re: Cloning my entire "C" HDD?

    On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:24:15 -0800, "Terence Oliver"
    <terencexx@xxxxxx> wrote:

    >I'm running Vista Ultimate and I'd like to clone my entire "C" HDD
    >just in case there is a HDD failure or a Vista crash.
    >
    >I know there are some programs like Norton Ghost, but I learn that there
    >are some activation related issues when cloning hard drives with Vista
    >installed?
    You say "clone"... do you MEAN that? A clone is an exact copy that is
    also bootable... you can use it immediately if the working disk fails
    for any reason.

    An IMAGE is a compressed version of your working disc that can be used
    to restore that disk in the case of a system crash that renders it
    unusable or a complete disc failure and you want to put everything
    back together on a new disk.

    In either case, you can do what you want by using Acronis True Image
    which has been mentioned here already. It is reasonably priced at the
    Acronis site, but it can be purchased for less at www.newegg.com

    Casper has also been mentioned: it's a fine program (I use it daily,
    in addition to using ATI) but it is limited to being used ONLY for
    cloning... and that makes it a lot less useful in the long run for the
    average user and I can't recommend it.

    Richie Hardwick

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  8. #8


    RalfG Guest

    Re: Cloning my entire "C" HDD?

    If you've got a Seagate drive you could download the Seagate Disk Wizard
    utility to clone the drive. It's based on Acronis software. I very recently
    used it to transfer my Vista install into a new partition after adding a
    second harddrive. Found nothing to complain about for a free utility.
    Apparently the current MaxBlast software for Maxtor drives (now owned by
    Seagate) is very similar in function but I haven't tried it to confirm. If
    it is, that would be another option for you.

    "Terence Oliver" <terencexx@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:ujPCtB8aJHA.4072@xxxxxx

    > I'm running Vista Ultimate and I'd like to clone my entire "C" HDD
    > just in case there is a HDD failure or a Vista crash.
    >
    > I know there are some programs like Norton Ghost, but I learn that there
    > are some activation related issues when cloning hard drives with Vista
    > installed?
    >
    > I'll appreciate any help regarding this matter, after going to clean
    > install Vista for
    > the fourth time I'd like to have a duplicate of my "C" HDD with Vista and
    > all
    > my programs installed.
    >
    > What is the best way to achieve this?
    >
    > Thanks in advance! And...... HAPPY NEW YEAR!
    >
    > Terence.

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  9. #9


    John Barnett MVP Guest

    Re: Cloning my entire "C" HDD?

    I use Acronis True Image 2009 and haven't had any problems. As I am
    re-installing to the same drive rather than a new drive I use the 'image'
    option (cloning is used to move the operating system from an old drive to a
    brand new one). I image my drive back every month or so (due to testing beta
    software etc). I certainly haven't had any activation issues. For that
    matter even if you did have an activation problem when cloning to a new
    drive a simple 'free' phone call to the Microsoft activation line will solve
    the problem.

    --

    --
    John Barnett MVP
    Windows XP Associate Expert
    Windows Desktop Experience

    Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
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    any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
    use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
    mail/post..


    "Terence Oliver" <terencexx@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:ujPCtB8aJHA.4072@xxxxxx

    > I'm running Vista Ultimate and I'd like to clone my entire "C" HDD
    > just in case there is a HDD failure or a Vista crash.
    >
    > I know there are some programs like Norton Ghost, but I learn that there
    > are some activation related issues when cloning hard drives with Vista
    > installed?
    >
    > I'll appreciate any help regarding this matter, after going to clean
    > install Vista for
    > the fourth time I'd like to have a duplicate of my "C" HDD with Vista and
    > all
    > my programs installed.
    >
    > What is the best way to achieve this?
    >
    > Thanks in advance! And...... HAPPY NEW YEAR!
    >
    > Terence.

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  10. #10


    John Barnett MVP Guest

    Re: Cloning my entire "C" HDD?

    Richie, I have beta tested many versions of Casper and have always asked for
    the inclusion of an 'imaging' option as well as cloning. I've also found
    Casper extremely useful but for the fact it will not image the drive, only
    clone it. Maybe if I keep making the point about imaging to Casper they will
    eventually take it onboard. It would certainly improve the product.

    --

    --
    John Barnett MVP
    Windows XP Associate Expert
    Windows Desktop Experience

    Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
    Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
    Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com

    The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
    kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
    reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
    any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
    use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
    mail/post..


    "Richie Hardwick" <richiehardwick@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:ljtol41136b0c6gv1bgbdod06kenvc2h6t@xxxxxx

    > On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:24:15 -0800, "Terence Oliver"
    > <terencexx@xxxxxx> wrote:
    >

    >>I'm running Vista Ultimate and I'd like to clone my entire "C" HDD
    >>just in case there is a HDD failure or a Vista crash.
    >>
    >>I know there are some programs like Norton Ghost, but I learn that there
    >>are some activation related issues when cloning hard drives with Vista
    >>installed?
    >
    > You say "clone"... do you MEAN that? A clone is an exact copy that is
    > also bootable... you can use it immediately if the working disk fails
    > for any reason.
    >
    > An IMAGE is a compressed version of your working disc that can be used
    > to restore that disk in the case of a system crash that renders it
    > unusable or a complete disc failure and you want to put everything
    > back together on a new disk.
    >
    > In either case, you can do what you want by using Acronis True Image
    > which has been mentioned here already. It is reasonably priced at the
    > Acronis site, but it can be purchased for less at www.newegg.com
    >
    > Casper has also been mentioned: it's a fine program (I use it daily,
    > in addition to using ATI) but it is limited to being used ONLY for
    > cloning... and that makes it a lot less useful in the long run for the
    > average user and I can't recommend it.
    >
    > Richie Hardwick

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