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| 01-06-2009 | #1 |
| | About USB Speeds hello, I have been trying to research a question but to no avail. I am curious as to how usb speeds function in vista. firstly, it is understood that usb 2.0 is fully functional in vista. however, can vista still support usb1.0 devices? is there a method to have vista control the usb speed. for example if the usb port is 2.0, then can we reduce the speed to 1.0? lastly, has the 2.0 standard been increased or made more efficient by vista? it seems that I have seen usb devices be marketed as something being able to handle faster speeds than 2.0. but as marketing goes, it may simply be "spin" on the products. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional - Systems Analyst - Database Developer - Accountancy - Veteran of the Armed Forces |
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| 01-06-2009 | #2 |
| | Re: About USB Speeds " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message news:B3FE10CB-9B41-49F6-B098-64A256A5C6F6@xxxxxx Quote: > hello, > > I have been trying to research > a question but to no avail. > > I am curious as to how usb > speeds function in vista. > > firstly, it is understood that > usb 2.0 is fully functional > in vista. > > however, can vista still > support usb1.0 devices? > > is there a method to have > vista control the usb speed. > > for example if the usb port > is 2.0, then can we reduce > the speed to 1.0? > > lastly, has the 2.0 standard > been increased or made > more efficient by vista? > > it seems that I have seen > usb devices be marketed > as something being able > to handle faster speeds > than 2.0. > > but as marketing goes, it > may simply be "spin" on > the products. > > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > DatabaseBen, Retired Professional > - Systems Analyst > - Database Developer > - Accountancy > - Veteran of the Armed Forces > > > A 1.x device connected to a 2.0 port will just run at normal 1.x speed etc. -- Mike Brannigan |
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| 01-06-2009 | #3 |
| | Re: About USB Speeds ok, well thanks for the quick and simple answer. but, that's what I initially thought until I discovered that it was not true with a device I had. I had wondered if there is a situation that vista cannot recognize 1.0 speeds, thus leading me to further wonder if there was a manual method to ensure a reduced speed, similar to setting the bit rate for those ol' internet modems. ----------------- thanks for you quick and professional response! perhaps, I need to re think the issue. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional - Systems Analyst - Database Developer - Accountancy - Veteran of the Armed Forces "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uhEgY8BcJHA.552@xxxxxx Quote: > " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message > news:B3FE10CB-9B41-49F6-B098-64A256A5C6F6@xxxxxx Quote: >> hello, >> >> I have been trying to research >> a question but to no avail. >> >> I am curious as to how usb >> speeds function in vista. >> >> firstly, it is understood that >> usb 2.0 is fully functional >> in vista. >> >> however, can vista still >> support usb1.0 devices? >> >> is there a method to have >> vista control the usb speed. >> >> for example if the usb port >> is 2.0, then can we reduce >> the speed to 1.0? >> >> lastly, has the 2.0 standard >> been increased or made >> more efficient by vista? >> >> it seems that I have seen >> usb devices be marketed >> as something being able >> to handle faster speeds >> than 2.0. >> >> but as marketing goes, it >> may simply be "spin" on >> the products. >> >> -- >> >> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional >> - Systems Analyst >> - Database Developer >> - Accountancy >> - Veteran of the Armed Forces >> >> >> > Vista supports both USB 1.x and 2.0 devices. > A 1.x device connected to a 2.0 port will just run at normal 1.x speed etc. > -- > > Mike Brannigan |
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| 01-06-2009 | #4 |
| | Re: About USB Speeds On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:04:17 -0600, db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. . <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote: Quote: >ok, well thanks for the >quick and simple answer. > >but, that's what I initially >thought until I discovered >that it was not true with a >device I had. Quote: >I had wondered if there is a >situation that vista cannot >recognize 1.0 speeds, thus >leading me to further wonder >if there was a manual method >to ensure a reduced speed, > >similar to setting the bit rate >for those ol' internet modems. PJ White |
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| 01-06-2009 | #5 |
| | Re: About USB Speeds " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message news:C17D5912-4555-415F-BC26-3E62BE7D8DC2@xxxxxx Quote: > ok, well thanks for the > quick and simple answer. > > but, that's what I initially > thought until I discovered > that it was not true with a > device I had. Quote: > > I had wondered if there is a > situation that vista cannot > recognize 1.0 speeds, in some way, or broken, if it is not responding properly. What exactly is the problem with it? -pk Quote: > thus > leading me to further wonder > if there was a manual method > to ensure a reduced speed, > > similar to setting the bit rate > for those ol' internet modems. > > ----------------- > > thanks for you quick > and professional response! > > perhaps, I need to > re think the issue. > > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > DatabaseBen, Retired Professional > - Systems Analyst > - Database Developer > - Accountancy > - Veteran of the Armed Forces > > > > "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:uhEgY8BcJHA.552@xxxxxx Quote: >> " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in >> message news:B3FE10CB-9B41-49F6-B098-64A256A5C6F6@xxxxxx Quote: >>> hello, >>> >>> I have been trying to research >>> a question but to no avail. >>> >>> I am curious as to how usb >>> speeds function in vista. >>> >>> firstly, it is understood that >>> usb 2.0 is fully functional >>> in vista. >>> >>> however, can vista still >>> support usb1.0 devices? >>> >>> is there a method to have >>> vista control the usb speed. >>> >>> for example if the usb port >>> is 2.0, then can we reduce >>> the speed to 1.0? >>> >>> lastly, has the 2.0 standard >>> been increased or made >>> more efficient by vista? >>> >>> it seems that I have seen >>> usb devices be marketed >>> as something being able >>> to handle faster speeds >>> than 2.0. >>> >>> but as marketing goes, it >>> may simply be "spin" on >>> the products. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional >>> - Systems Analyst >>> - Database Developer >>> - Accountancy >>> - Veteran of the Armed Forces >>> >>> >>> >> Vista supports both USB 1.x and 2.0 devices. >> A 1.x device connected to a 2.0 port will just run at normal 1.x speed >> etc. >> -- >> >> Mike Brannigan |
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| 01-06-2009 | #6 |
| | Re: About USB Speeds thanks to both of you above for the time in responding. I had found a solution a few days ago, but I have been searching to find if it is a documented solution or I happened to make a new discovery. thus my general inquiries about the usb system in vista. the problem was basically a driver incompatibility issue and vista simply refused to install the driver. also, the manufacturer did not want to provide a driver for the device for vista. so many of us were left with a very expensive device and no support by the manufacturer for those of us who upgraded to vista. however, I discovered a work around and the device if now fully functional in vista now. with the work around vista then automatically recognized that device and installed the driver for it as well - the same winxp driver that it initially refused to accept. at this time I have sent an email to the manufacturer generally advising them of a solution I found and with out describing the exact methodology. I'm not sure if I can ascertain any benefits from the discovery, but most assuredly their customers will, if they know the steps necessary to make their device(s) functional in vista. in any case, thanks for your time and input. the additional information you guys provided were helpful. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional - Systems Analyst - Database Developer - Accountancy - Veteran of the Armed Forces "Patrick Keenan" <test@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:u7ZqKnEcJHA.4664@xxxxxx Quote: > " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message > news:C17D5912-4555-415F-BC26-3E62BE7D8DC2@xxxxxx Quote: >> ok, well thanks for the >> quick and simple answer. >> >> but, that's what I initially >> thought until I discovered >> that it was not true with a >> device I had. > The device may be broken or incompatible. > > Quote: >> >> I had wondered if there is a >> situation that vista cannot >> recognize 1.0 speeds, > Nope, it supports all the speeds. The external device may be non-compliant in some way, or broken, if it is not responding > properly. > > What exactly is the problem with it? > > -pk > Quote: >> thus >> leading me to further wonder >> if there was a manual method >> to ensure a reduced speed, >> >> similar to setting the bit rate >> for those ol' internet modems. >> >> ----------------- >> >> thanks for you quick >> and professional response! >> >> perhaps, I need to >> re think the issue. >> >> -- >> >> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional >> - Systems Analyst >> - Database Developer >> - Accountancy >> - Veteran of the Armed Forces >> >> >> >> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uhEgY8BcJHA.552@xxxxxx Quote: >>> " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message >>> news:B3FE10CB-9B41-49F6-B098-64A256A5C6F6@xxxxxx >>>> hello, >>>> >>>> I have been trying to research >>>> a question but to no avail. >>>> >>>> I am curious as to how usb >>>> speeds function in vista. >>>> >>>> firstly, it is understood that >>>> usb 2.0 is fully functional >>>> in vista. >>>> >>>> however, can vista still >>>> support usb1.0 devices? >>>> >>>> is there a method to have >>>> vista control the usb speed. >>>> >>>> for example if the usb port >>>> is 2.0, then can we reduce >>>> the speed to 1.0? >>>> >>>> lastly, has the 2.0 standard >>>> been increased or made >>>> more efficient by vista? >>>> >>>> it seems that I have seen >>>> usb devices be marketed >>>> as something being able >>>> to handle faster speeds >>>> than 2.0. >>>> >>>> but as marketing goes, it >>>> may simply be "spin" on >>>> the products. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>>> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional >>>> - Systems Analyst >>>> - Database Developer >>>> - Accountancy >>>> - Veteran of the Armed Forces >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Vista supports both USB 1.x and 2.0 devices. >>> A 1.x device connected to a 2.0 port will just run at normal 1.x speed etc. >>> -- >>> >>> Mike Brannigan > |
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| 01-06-2009 | #7 |
| | Re: About USB Speeds Thanks for not sharing what your work around was. " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message news:3E47659B-5DB4-4FAA-828E-723B63AA123C@xxxxxx Quote: > thanks to both of you > above for the time > in responding. > > I had found a solution > a few days ago, but I > have been searching > to find if it is a documented > solution or I happened to > make a new discovery. > > thus my general inquiries > about the usb system in > vista. > > the problem was basically > a driver incompatibility issue > and vista simply refused > to install the driver. > > also, the manufacturer > did not want to provide > a driver for the device > for vista. > > so many of us were left > with a very expensive device > and no support by the > manufacturer for those of > us who upgraded to vista. > > however, I discovered > a work around and the > device if now fully > functional in vista now. > > with the work around vista > then automatically recognized > that device and installed the > driver for it as well - the same > winxp driver that it initially refused > to accept. > > at this time I have sent an > email to the manufacturer > generally advising them of > a solution I found and with out > describing the exact methodology. > > I'm not sure if I can ascertain > any benefits from the discovery, > but most assuredly their customers > will, if they know the steps necessary > to make their device(s) functional in > vista. > > in any case, thanks for your time > and input. > > the additional information you > guys provided were helpful. > > -- > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > DatabaseBen, Retired Professional > - Systems Analyst > - Database Developer > - Accountancy > - Veteran of the Armed Forces > > > > "Patrick Keenan" <test@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:u7ZqKnEcJHA.4664@xxxxxx Quote: >> " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in >> message news:C17D5912-4555-415F-BC26-3E62BE7D8DC2@xxxxxx Quote: >>> ok, well thanks for the >>> quick and simple answer. >>> >>> but, that's what I initially >>> thought until I discovered >>> that it was not true with a >>> device I had. >> The device may be broken or incompatible. >> >> Quote: >>> >>> I had wondered if there is a >>> situation that vista cannot >>> recognize 1.0 speeds, >> Nope, it supports all the speeds. The external device may be >> non-compliant in some way, or broken, if it is not responding properly. >> >> What exactly is the problem with it? >> >> -pk >> Quote: >>> thus >>> leading me to further wonder >>> if there was a manual method >>> to ensure a reduced speed, >>> >>> similar to setting the bit rate >>> for those ol' internet modems. >>> >>> ----------------- >>> >>> thanks for you quick >>> and professional response! >>> >>> perhaps, I need to >>> re think the issue. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional >>> - Systems Analyst >>> - Database Developer >>> - Accountancy >>> - Veteran of the Armed Forces >>> >>> >>> >>> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:uhEgY8BcJHA.552@xxxxxx >>>> " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in >>>> message news:B3FE10CB-9B41-49F6-B098-64A256A5C6F6@xxxxxx >>>>> hello, >>>>> >>>>> I have been trying to research >>>>> a question but to no avail. >>>>> >>>>> I am curious as to how usb >>>>> speeds function in vista. >>>>> >>>>> firstly, it is understood that >>>>> usb 2.0 is fully functional >>>>> in vista. >>>>> >>>>> however, can vista still >>>>> support usb1.0 devices? >>>>> >>>>> is there a method to have >>>>> vista control the usb speed. >>>>> >>>>> for example if the usb port >>>>> is 2.0, then can we reduce >>>>> the speed to 1.0? >>>>> >>>>> lastly, has the 2.0 standard >>>>> been increased or made >>>>> more efficient by vista? >>>>> >>>>> it seems that I have seen >>>>> usb devices be marketed >>>>> as something being able >>>>> to handle faster speeds >>>>> than 2.0. >>>>> >>>>> but as marketing goes, it >>>>> may simply be "spin" on >>>>> the products. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>>>> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional >>>>> - Systems Analyst >>>>> - Database Developer >>>>> - Accountancy >>>>> - Veteran of the Armed Forces >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Vista supports both USB 1.x and 2.0 devices. >>>> A 1.x device connected to a 2.0 port will just run at normal 1.x speed >>>> etc. >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Mike Brannigan >>> >> |
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| 01-06-2009 | #8 |
| | Re: About USB Speeds " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message news:3E47659B-5DB4-4FAA-828E-723B63AA123C@xxxxxx Quote: > thanks to both of you > above for the time > in responding. > > I had found a solution > a few days ago, but I > have been searching > to find if it is a documented > solution or I happened to > make a new discovery. > > thus my general inquiries > about the usb system in > vista. > > the problem was basically > a driver incompatibility issue > and vista simply refused > to install the driver. > > also, the manufacturer > did not want to provide > a driver for the device > for vista. > > so many of us were left > with a very expensive device > and no support by the > manufacturer for those of > us who upgraded to vista. > > however, I discovered > a work around and the > device if now fully > functional in vista now. > > with the work around vista > then automatically recognized > that device and installed the > driver for it as well - the same > winxp driver that it initially refused > to accept. > > at this time I have sent an > email to the manufacturer > generally advising them of > a solution I found and with out > describing the exact methodology. > > I'm not sure if I can ascertain > any benefits from the discovery, > but most assuredly their customers > will, if they know the steps necessary > to make their device(s) functional in > vista. > Best Paul. |
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| 01-07-2009 | #9 |
| | Re: About USB Speeds " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message news:B3FE10CB-9B41-49F6-B098-64A256A5C6F6@xxxxxx Quote: > hello, > > I have been trying to research > a question but to no avail. > > I am curious as to how usb > speeds function in vista. > > firstly, it is understood that > usb 2.0 is fully functional > in vista. > > however, can vista still > support usb1.0 devices? > > is there a method to have > vista control the usb speed. > > for example if the usb port > is 2.0, then can we reduce > the speed to 1.0? > > lastly, has the 2.0 standard > been increased or made > more efficient by vista? > > it seems that I have seen > usb devices be marketed > as something being able > to handle faster speeds > than 2.0. > > but as marketing goes, it > may simply be "spin" on > the products. > > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > DatabaseBen, Retired Professional > - Systems Analyst > - Database Developer > - Accountancy > - Veteran of the Armed Forces 9. How does USB 2.0 and 1.1 work together? 10. How does a USB hub slow down devices? From the webpage; http://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm Get techincal here; http://www.usbmadesimple.co.uk/ Nothing simple though...! Hope this can assist you in your research; http://www.usb.org/home - Vista Cabal |
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| 01-07-2009 | #10 |
| | Re: About USB Speeds will review the info. thanks. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional - Systems Analyst - Database Developer - Accountancy - Veteran of the Armed Forces "Vista Cabal" <vista_cabal@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#LGVgnLcJHA.4684@xxxxxx Quote: > > " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote in message > news:B3FE10CB-9B41-49F6-B098-64A256A5C6F6@xxxxxx Quote: >> hello, >> >> I have been trying to research >> a question but to no avail. >> >> I am curious as to how usb >> speeds function in vista. >> >> firstly, it is understood that >> usb 2.0 is fully functional >> in vista. >> >> however, can vista still >> support usb1.0 devices? >> >> is there a method to have >> vista control the usb speed. >> >> for example if the usb port >> is 2.0, then can we reduce >> the speed to 1.0? >> >> lastly, has the 2.0 standard >> been increased or made >> more efficient by vista? >> >> it seems that I have seen >> usb devices be marketed >> as something being able >> to handle faster speeds >> than 2.0. >> >> but as marketing goes, it >> may simply be "spin" on >> the products. >> >> -- >> >> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional >> - Systems Analyst >> - Database Developer >> - Accountancy >> - Veteran of the Armed Forces > Check out; (if not already) > 9. How does USB 2.0 and 1.1 work together? > 10. How does a USB hub slow down devices? > > From the webpage; > http://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm > > Get techincal here; > http://www.usbmadesimple.co.uk/ > Nothing simple though...! > > Hope this can assist you in your research; > http://www.usb.org/home > > > - Vista Cabal > > > > > |
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