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Old 01-15-2009   #1 (permalink)
Default User


 
 

Vista replaces MBR - is there an option to disable this???

Hi,

I've written a boot manager (www.sadevelopment.com) that allows you to boot
up to 256 operating systems with logon security. It uses a custom MBR to
launch itself, but when this customer boots Vista, Vista replaces the MBR.
I only have this with one customer. I've installed Vista myself as numerous
other customers have with no issue.

Way back when the Vista beta was out I saw this behavior. I have to think
there is some option or setting in Vista that was enabled during the beta
that did it and that this customer must have that option enabled somehow.
He says it is not running beta, but he says it has SP1. Does anyone know of
an option or registry setting like this?

Thanks,

Alan



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Old 01-15-2009   #2 (permalink)
terca novie


 
 

Re: Vista replaces MBR - is there an option to disable this???

how about using vistabootpro to see what the bootmanager is up to?

you can even uninstall and reinstall the vista bootmanager

http://www.softpedia.com/progDownloa...oad-40162.html

select a mirror to download

"Default User" <nospam38925@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Hi,
>
> I've written a boot manager (www.sadevelopment.com) that allows you to
> boot up to 256 operating systems with logon security. It uses a custom
> MBR to launch itself, but when this customer boots Vista, Vista replaces
> the MBR. I only have this with one customer. I've installed Vista myself
> as numerous other customers have with no issue.
>
> Way back when the Vista beta was out I saw this behavior. I have to think
> there is some option or setting in Vista that was enabled during the beta
> that did it and that this customer must have that option enabled somehow.
> He says it is not running beta, but he says it has SP1. Does anyone know
> of an option or registry setting like this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alan
>
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Old 01-16-2009   #3 (permalink)


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Re: Vista replaces MBR - is there an option to disable this???

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by terca novie View Post
how about using vistabootpro to see what the bootmanager is up to?

you can even uninstall and reinstall the vista bootmanager

VistaBootPRO Download - Softpedia

select a mirror to download

"Default User" <nospam38925@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:
> Hi,
>
> I've written a boot manager (www.sadevelopment.com) that allows you to
> boot up to 256 operating systems with logon security. It uses a custom
> MBR to launch itself, but when this customer boots Vista, Vista replaces
> the MBR. I only have this with one customer. I've installed Vista myself
> as numerous other customers have with no issue.
>
> Way back when the Vista beta was out I saw this behavior. I have to think
> there is some option or setting in Vista that was enabled during the beta
> that did it and that this customer must have that option enabled somehow.
> He says it is not running beta, but he says it has SP1. Does anyone know
> of an option or registry setting like this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alan
>
VistBootPro is a ripoff of the actual original program called EasyBCD by Neosmart Technologies. Download EasyBCD 1.7.2 - NeoSmart Technologies

When installing multiple OSs or simply different versions of Windows each should already be installed since each installer will see it's own new entries placed in the boot drive's mbr replacing others. Any 3rd party boot loader is the last thing to be installed.
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Old 01-16-2009   #4 (permalink)
Default User


 
 

Re: Vista replaces MBR - is there an option to disable this???

Hi Night Hawk,
Quote:

> When installing multiple OSs or simply different versions of Windows
> each should already be installed since each installer will see it's own
> new entries placed in the boot drive's mbr replacing others. Any 3rd
> party boot loader is the last thing to be installed.
My product keeps each OS in its own SEPERATE partition, so they don't mix
and are hidden from each other, and they are installed normally.

I am still looking for an answer to my original question.

Thanks,

Alan


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Old 01-16-2009   #5 (permalink)
Jawade


 
 

Re: Vista replaces MBR - is there an option to disable this???

Op Donderdag 15 Januari 2009 22:02:27 -0600, schreef Default User <nospam38925@xxxxxx> in artikel <0074c9bc$0$23773$c3e8da3@xxxxxx>:
Quote:

> Hi,
>
> I've written a boot manager (www.sadevelopment.com) that allows you to boot
> up to 256 operating systems with logon security. It uses a custom MBR to
> launch itself, but when this customer boots Vista, Vista replaces the MBR.
> I only have this with one customer. I've installed Vista myself as numerous
> other customers have with no issue.
>
> Way back when the Vista beta was out I saw this behavior. I have to think
> there is some option or setting in Vista that was enabled during the beta
> that did it and that this customer must have that option enabled somehow.
> He says it is not running beta, but he says it has SP1. Does anyone know of
> an option or registry setting like this?
I have mij own bootmanager, it is in the first 5 sectors of the
first HD, but mij MBR is never overwritten by Vista (Ultimate).


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Old 01-19-2009   #6 (permalink)
Default User


 
 

Re: Vista replaces MBR - is there an option to disable this???

Hi,

So no one knows of a ini option or registry setting that enables/disables
this??

Thanks,

Alan


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Old 01-24-2009   #7 (permalink)
Default User


 
 

Re: Vista replaces MBR - is there an option to disable this???

Hi Rick,

I'm still trying to figure this out.

Customer is running x64 version with the newer style boot mechanism
(bootmgr, bcd).

I did a fresh install of vista sp1 x64 and it does not do what the customer
version does. It replaced the MBR one time during setup, but once my boot
manager reactivated itself (putting its mbr back in), vista does not replace
the mbr again.

The customers pc is different, each time he boots vista, it replaces it.

I will have him report the attributes he has from diskpart...

Thanks,

Alan


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Old 01-24-2009   #8 (permalink)
Default User


 
 

Re: Vista replaces MBR - is there an option to disable this???

Hi Rick,

Here it is:

http://home.earthlink.net/~alank2/DD.jpg

The first 8mb partition is where my boot manager resides. The third
partition may represent more partitions that are hidden from the WVista.

WVista (C is the problem child, when booted it will always replace the MBR
everytime...

Thanks,

Alan


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-25-2009   #9 (permalink)
Default User


 
 

Re: Vista replaces MBR - is there an option to disable this???

Hi Rick,

A good thought, but it only happens when he boots vista. He has another OS
installed and can boot it and it doesn't replace the MBR.

I saw behavior like this back when Vista was in beta, the beta versions
would do it, but the issues all cleared up for the release version...

Thanks,

Alan


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