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| | How do I diagnose a slow Vista Home Basic machine? A friend found out that I have a Vista computer so he brought me his wife's computer to find out why it is so slow. I have no problems with mine but this Vista Home Basic PC is ungodly slow. Just to open an Explorer window takes over 90 seconds. I scheduled a checkdisk and ran it on the next reboot. I defragged and ran the disk cleanup wizard. I downloaded and reinstalled the ATI video drivers after seeing an eror message about ATI. It is slightly faster but not enough to make any difference to the user. Where do I find the diagnostics, or logs or something that can tell me what is slowing it down so that I can fix it? I couldn't find a diagnostic on the eMachine site. My last option will be to reformat and start over but I'd rather not do that if there is a way to fix it instead. It's an eMachine with only 512 MB RAM, but it did run much faster when new. Intel Pentium 3.0 GHz, 160 GB HDD. Also the wireless card is very slow, but the wired connection is pretty fast for downloading. Mich |
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| | Re: How do I diagnose a slow Vista Home Basic machine? "M Skabialka" <mskabialka@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:esdhDO1lJHA.2460@xxxxxx Quote: >A friend found out that I have a Vista computer so he brought me his wife's >computer to find out why it is so slow. I have no problems with mine but >this Vista Home Basic PC is ungodly slow. Just to open an Explorer window >takes over 90 seconds. I scheduled a checkdisk and ran it on the next >reboot. I defragged and ran the disk cleanup wizard. I downloaded and >reinstalled the ATI video drivers after seeing an eror message about ATI. > It is slightly faster but not enough to make any difference to the user. > Where do I find the diagnostics, or logs or something that can tell me > what is slowing it down so that I can fix it? I couldn't find a > diagnostic on the eMachine site. My last option will be to reformat and > start over but I'd rather not do that if there is a way to fix it instead. > It's an eMachine with only 512 MB RAM, but it did run much faster when > new. Intel Pentium 3.0 GHz, 160 GB HDD. Also the wireless card is very > slow, but the wired connection is pretty fast for downloading. > Mich > The computer doesn't really have enough RAM. That said: There's more than one possible reason for a slow down. Malware ( virus, spyware etc. etc. ) is a common cause of slow down. Do a virus and spyware scans. Another cause is that there might be too many programs running in the background. You can use msconfig to stop some of these programs from running. Requires a reboot: Start > in the "Start Search" edit box type in "msconfig" when it appears at the top of the Start menu click on it > go to the "Startup" tab > uncheck any unneeded programs (if you aren't sure use a web search engine to discover what they are) > click any OKs > the computer will have to be rebooted for the new settings to take effect. Note: A technician can also edit the "Run" key in the registry to stop programs from running when the computer boots up. As well, there are third party programs that can be used to 'tweak' Windows. One program in particular that focuses on "junk" programs is: [The PC Decrapifier] http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/home Also note: These days, 512MB of RAM is substantially insufficient. The computer should have at least 1GB RAM for running Windows Vista and programs. The "sweet spot" is 2GB RAM. My laptop (running Vista) felt slow with 1GB of RAM. After I switch out to 2GB RAM it ran much better. Saucy |
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| | Re: How do I diagnose a slow Vista Home Basic machine? You can control the running all of startup programs easily with sysinternals autoruns available at MS. Tyro "Saucy" <saucylemon@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:O$yUJd1lJHA.3380@xxxxxx Quote: > "M Skabialka" <mskabialka@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:esdhDO1lJHA.2460@xxxxxx Quote: >>A friend found out that I have a Vista computer so he brought me his >>wife's computer to find out why it is so slow. I have no problems with >>mine but this Vista Home Basic PC is ungodly slow. Just to open an >>Explorer window takes over 90 seconds. I scheduled a checkdisk and ran it >>on the next reboot. I defragged and ran the disk cleanup wizard. I >>downloaded and reinstalled the ATI video drivers after seeing an eror >>message about ATI. >> It is slightly faster but not enough to make any difference to the user. >> Where do I find the diagnostics, or logs or something that can tell me >> what is slowing it down so that I can fix it? I couldn't find a >> diagnostic on the eMachine site. My last option will be to reformat and >> start over but I'd rather not do that if there is a way to fix it >> instead. It's an eMachine with only 512 MB RAM, but it did run much >> faster when new. Intel Pentium 3.0 GHz, 160 GB HDD. Also the wireless >> card is very slow, but the wired connection is pretty fast for >> downloading. >> Mich >> > > The computer doesn't really have enough RAM. That said: > > There's more than one possible reason for a slow down. Malware ( virus, > spyware etc. etc. ) is a common cause of slow down. Do a virus and spyware > scans. > > Another cause is that there might be too many programs running in the > background. You can use msconfig to stop some of these programs from > running. Requires a reboot: > > Start > in the "Start Search" edit box type in "msconfig" when it appears > at the top of the Start menu click on it > go to the "Startup" tab > > uncheck any unneeded programs (if you aren't sure use a web search engine > to discover what they are) > click any OKs > the computer will have to be > rebooted for the new settings to take effect. > > Note: A technician can also edit the "Run" key in the registry to stop > programs from running when the computer boots up. As well, there are third > party programs that can be used to 'tweak' Windows. One program in > particular that focuses on "junk" programs is: > > [The PC Decrapifier] > http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/home > > Also note: These days, 512MB of RAM is substantially insufficient. The > computer should have at least 1GB RAM for running Windows Vista and > programs. The "sweet spot" is 2GB RAM. My laptop (running Vista) felt slow > with 1GB of RAM. After I switch out to 2GB RAM it ran much better. > > Saucy |
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| | Re: How do I diagnose a slow Vista Home Basic machine? But how would I know what to turn off? Some applications have very obscure names - I might end up shutting down something essential. Same with msconfig - I've never seen this computer before so don't really know what should be there vs junk that was added by the manufacturer or downloaded from an email or something. And the owner doesn't really know either. However I will start with the malware scan and see what that picks up... "Tyro" <Tyro@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ajdpl.12806$8_3.1700@xxxxxx Quote: > You can control the running all of startup programs easily with > sysinternals autoruns available at MS. > > Tyro > > "Saucy" <saucylemon@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:O$yUJd1lJHA.3380@xxxxxx Quote: >> "M Skabialka" <mskabialka@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:esdhDO1lJHA.2460@xxxxxx Quote: >>>A friend found out that I have a Vista computer so he brought me his >>>wife's computer to find out why it is so slow. I have no problems with >>>mine but this Vista Home Basic PC is ungodly slow. Just to open an >>>Explorer window takes over 90 seconds. I scheduled a checkdisk and ran >>>it on the next reboot. I defragged and ran the disk cleanup wizard. I >>>downloaded and reinstalled the ATI video drivers after seeing an eror >>>message about ATI. >>> It is slightly faster but not enough to make any difference to the user. >>> Where do I find the diagnostics, or logs or something that can tell me >>> what is slowing it down so that I can fix it? I couldn't find a >>> diagnostic on the eMachine site. My last option will be to reformat and >>> start over but I'd rather not do that if there is a way to fix it >>> instead. It's an eMachine with only 512 MB RAM, but it did run much >>> faster when new. Intel Pentium 3.0 GHz, 160 GB HDD. Also the wireless >>> card is very slow, but the wired connection is pretty fast for >>> downloading. >>> Mich >>> >> >> The computer doesn't really have enough RAM. That said: >> >> There's more than one possible reason for a slow down. Malware ( virus, >> spyware etc. etc. ) is a common cause of slow down. Do a virus and >> spyware scans. >> >> Another cause is that there might be too many programs running in the >> background. You can use msconfig to stop some of these programs from >> running. Requires a reboot: >> >> Start > in the "Start Search" edit box type in "msconfig" when it appears >> at the top of the Start menu click on it > go to the "Startup" tab > >> uncheck any unneeded programs (if you aren't sure use a web search engine >> to discover what they are) > click any OKs > the computer will have to be >> rebooted for the new settings to take effect. >> >> Note: A technician can also edit the "Run" key in the registry to stop >> programs from running when the computer boots up. As well, there are >> third party programs that can be used to 'tweak' Windows. One program in >> particular that focuses on "junk" programs is: >> >> [The PC Decrapifier] >> http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/home >> >> Also note: These days, 512MB of RAM is substantially insufficient. The >> computer should have at least 1GB RAM for running Windows Vista and >> programs. The "sweet spot" is 2GB RAM. My laptop (running Vista) felt >> slow with 1GB of RAM. After I switch out to 2GB RAM it ran much better. >> >> Saucy |
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| | Re: How do I diagnose a slow Vista Home Basic machine? "M Skabialka" <mskabialka@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23WqcQj2lJHA.1168@xxxxxx Quote: > Same with msconfig - I've never seen this computer before so don't really > know what should be there vs junk that was added by the manufacturer or > downloaded from an email or something. And the owner doesn't really know > either. However I will start with the malware scan and see what that picks > up... > results. If you cannot determine whether an item can be safely unchecked after that then leave it. Note: Before playing with settings create a Restore Point. You might also consider creating a backup. Saucy |
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| | Re: How do I diagnose a slow Vista Home Basic machine? On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:47:56 -0600, "M Skabialka" <mskabialka@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >But how would I know what to turn off? Some applications have very obscure >names - I might end up shutting down something essential. Same with >msconfig - I've never seen this computer before so don't really know what >should be there vs junk that was added by the manufacturer or downloaded >from an email or something. And the owner doesn't really know either. >However I will start with the malware scan and see what that picks up... approved). Run it and see what is taking up the CPU, memory, or disk performance. Report back on what is hitting the top of the charts. If it's that slow, then there is something working hard. FWIW - 512K is way too little memory. You can at least get another 512K chip dirt cheap. Do it. |
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| | Re: How do I diagnose a slow Vista Home Basic machine? M Skabialka wrote: Quote: > But how would I know what to turn off? Some applications have very > obscure > names - I might end up shutting down something essential. Same with > msconfig - I've never seen this computer before so don't really know what > should be there vs junk that was added by the manufacturer or downloaded > from an email or something. And the owner doesn't really know either. > However I will start with the malware scan and see what that picks up... diagnosing this, or make the better choice: tell your friend to take the machine to a competent local computer tech and have *them* do it. If you go this route, I don't recommend using a BigComputerStore/GeekSquad type of place. Best of luck, Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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| | Re: How do I diagnose a slow Vista Home Basic machine? They consider me the "competent local computer tech" as I have been setting up their computers and transferring files to new ones for years. However my Vista Ultimate computer that I built myself works like a dream, so I have no experience in diagnosing Vista Home Basic problems. "Malke" <malke@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:u0ysmx3lJHA.2064@xxxxxx Quote: >M Skabialka wrote: > Quote: >> But how would I know what to turn off? Some applications have very >> obscure >> names - I might end up shutting down something essential. Same with >> msconfig - I've never seen this computer before so don't really know what >> should be there vs junk that was added by the manufacturer or downloaded >> from an email or something. And the owner doesn't really know either. >> However I will start with the malware scan and see what that picks up... > Very good question. You either Google the names, spend a *lot* of time > diagnosing this, or make the better choice: tell your friend to take the > machine to a competent local computer tech and have *them* do it. If you > go > this route, I don't recommend using a BigComputerStore/GeekSquad type of > place. > > Best of luck, > > Malke > -- > MS-MVP > Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! > http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ > |
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| | Re: How do I diagnose a slow Vista Home Basic machine? M Skabialka wrote: Quote: > They consider me the "competent local computer tech" as I have been > setting > up their computers and transferring files to new ones for years. However > my Vista Ultimate computer that I built myself works like a dream, so I > have no experience in diagnosing Vista Home Basic problems. slowness issues. Check for malware, optimize the system, make sure the hardware is good (enough RAM), etc. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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| Vista x64 Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate x64 | Re: How do I diagnose a slow Vista Home Basic machine? Hello Mich, You might try these items to see how much they can improve the computer's performance. Speed Up the Performance of Vista Hope this helps, Shawn A friend found out that I have a Vista computer so he brought me his wife's computer to find out why it is so slow. I have no problems with mine but this Vista Home Basic PC is ungodly slow. Just to open an Explorer window takes over 90 seconds. I scheduled a checkdisk and ran it on the next reboot. I defragged and ran the disk cleanup wizard. I downloaded and reinstalled the ATI video drivers after seeing an eror message about ATI. It is slightly faster but not enough to make any difference to the user. Where do I find the diagnostics, or logs or something that can tell me what is slowing it down so that I can fix it? I couldn't find a diagnostic on the eMachine site. My last option will be to reformat and start over but I'd rather not do that if there is a way to fix it instead. It's an eMachine with only 512 MB RAM, but it did run much faster when new. Intel Pentium 3.0 GHz, 160 GB HDD. Also the wireless card is very slow, but the wired connection is pretty fast for downloading. Mich |
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