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Old 10-08-2006   #1 (permalink)
Andris11


 
 

Anything wrong with my admin account?

Hello,

I have a clean install of Vista RC1 build 5600.
There is just one user account which is in the Admistrators group (that one
that was created during instalation).

1. I'm very often being asked to allow permission to launch programs and
sometimes twice. I understand the check where the publisher is unknown, but
why all those checks in case managing the system itself for example? Any
reason for that?


2. I also experienced problems with files copied from WinXP Home which
cannot have security settings at all (as to the Home edition limitation), for
example Visual Studio Express cannot save any of the transferred project
files until I explicitly allow the USERS (!!) group full acces to the files.
Why? The admin group had already all the permissions granted, and I am an
admin?

Yet I suspect similar behaviour for some programs, even those told to be
Vista compliant (e.g. Opera 9.02) cannot write their settings, i.e. cannot
write to my user folders (<drive>:\Users\MyName\AppData\Roaming...).

I didn't do anything with user accounts since the clean install, Is my admin
account not "admin enough"? ;-)
As well the question is whether apps cannot write their setting because of
some limitation of my account or whether that is an issue with them.

Thanks for some explanation or solution.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-08-2006   #2 (permalink)
Tom Ziegmann


 
 

Re: Anything wrong with my admin account?

Hello,

The reason you are being asked for permission to launch programs and system
management tools is because of a new feature called UAC (User Account
Control). UAC is Microsoft's built in system for allowing and denying access
to system files and functions. It is meant to be a way to prevent spyware
and malware from doing any damage to your system. Currently there are some
problems with user profile folders and the user not being able to access
them or not have enough permissions assigned to them. From what I know MS is
working on these issues and should be fixed by the Gold RTM build.
--
Tom Ziegmann
Microsoft Certified Professional
Windows Vista / Server Longhorn TechBeta Tester
Windows Server 2003 TechBeta Tester
"Andris11" <Andris11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8AFD47AE-441D-4A6D-A8E0-C4BF7AD1CC6E@microsoft.com...
> Hello,
>
> I have a clean install of Vista RC1 build 5600.
> There is just one user account which is in the Admistrators group (that
> one
> that was created during instalation).
>
> 1. I'm very often being asked to allow permission to launch programs and
> sometimes twice. I understand the check where the publisher is unknown,
> but
> why all those checks in case managing the system itself for example? Any
> reason for that?
>
>
> 2. I also experienced problems with files copied from WinXP Home which
> cannot have security settings at all (as to the Home edition limitation),
> for
> example Visual Studio Express cannot save any of the transferred project
> files until I explicitly allow the USERS (!!) group full acces to the
> files.
> Why? The admin group had already all the permissions granted, and I am an
> admin?
>
> Yet I suspect similar behaviour for some programs, even those told to be
> Vista compliant (e.g. Opera 9.02) cannot write their settings, i.e. cannot
> write to my user folders (<drive>:\Users\MyName\AppData\Roaming...).
>
> I didn't do anything with user accounts since the clean install, Is my
> admin
> account not "admin enough"? ;-)
> As well the question is whether apps cannot write their setting because of
> some limitation of my account or whether that is an issue with them.
>
> Thanks for some explanation or solution.
>


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-08-2006   #3 (permalink)
Andris11


 
 

Re: Anything wrong with my admin account?

> The reason you are being asked for permission to launch programs and system
> management tools is because of a new feature called UAC (User Account
> Control). UAC is Microsoft's built in system for allowing and denying access
> to system files and functions. It is meant to be a way to prevent spyware
> and malware from doing any damage to your system.


Thanks for clarifying, I earmarked an information actually saying what you
do, however was not sure if remembered correctly. When that's no error I'm
satisfied, better secure than not for everyone having not just slideshow pics
and IE bookmarks on ones disk.

> Currently there are some
> problems with user profile folders and the user not being able to access
> them or not have enough permissions assigned to them. From what I know MS is
> working on these issues and should be fixed by the Gold RTM build.



Eventually, can you be more specific on this? Does it affect just the user
folders or is it a wider issue (as to the inabitily to change VS C# Express
project contents which had full control granted for the Administrators group
however required the Users group to grant permissions as well)?

The fact is that those files were transferred from XP Home although there
never was an attempt to modify securitty setting on them. However I don't
experience this issue with my own application, overwriting files in it's
local folders...


Important question, will the Gold RTM build be available as an update to RC1?

Thanks in advance
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-08-2006   #4 (permalink)
Andris11


 
 

Re: Anything wrong with my admin account?

> The reason you are being asked for permission to launch programs and system
> management tools is because of a new feature called UAC (User Account
> Control). UAC is Microsoft's built in system for allowing and denying access
> to system files and functions. It is meant to be a way to prevent spyware
> and malware from doing any damage to your system.


Thanks for clarifying, I earmarked an information actually saying what you
do, however was not sure if remembered correctly. When that's no error I'm
satisfied, better secure than not for everyone having not just slideshow pics
and IE bookmarks on ones disk.

> Currently there are some
> problems with user profile folders and the user not being able to access
> them or not have enough permissions assigned to them. From what I know MS is
> working on these issues and should be fixed by the Gold RTM build.



Eventually, can you be more specific on this? Does it affect just the user
folders or is it a wider issue (as to the inabitily to change VS C# Express
project contents which had full control granted for the Administrators group
however required the Users group to grant permissions as well)?

The fact is that those files were transferred from XP Home although there
never was an attempt to modify securitty setting on them. However I don't
experience this issue with my own application, overwriting files in it's
local folders...


Important question, will the Gold RTM build be available as an update to RC1?

Thanks in advance
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-08-2006   #5 (permalink)
Tom Ziegmann


 
 

Re: Anything wrong with my admin account?

I believe it is a wider issue that affects anything on the drive. The "Gold
RTM" build is the final finished product that you will have to purchase once
Vista ships.
--
Tom Ziegmann
Microsoft Certified Professional
Windows Vista / Server Longhorn TechBeta Tester
Windows Server 2003 TechBeta Tester
"Andris11" <Andris11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:07880245-9F64-4E8B-A661-30E89FB78791@microsoft.com...
>> The reason you are being asked for permission to launch programs and
>> system
>> management tools is because of a new feature called UAC (User Account
>> Control). UAC is Microsoft's built in system for allowing and denying
>> access
>> to system files and functions. It is meant to be a way to prevent spyware
>> and malware from doing any damage to your system.

>
> Thanks for clarifying, I earmarked an information actually saying what you
> do, however was not sure if remembered correctly. When that's no error I'm
> satisfied, better secure than not for everyone having not just slideshow
> pics
> and IE bookmarks on ones disk.
>
>> Currently there are some
>> problems with user profile folders and the user not being able to access
>> them or not have enough permissions assigned to them. From what I know MS
>> is
>> working on these issues and should be fixed by the Gold RTM build.

>
>
> Eventually, can you be more specific on this? Does it affect just the user
> folders or is it a wider issue (as to the inabitily to change VS C#
> Express
> project contents which had full control granted for the Administrators
> group
> however required the Users group to grant permissions as well)?
>
> The fact is that those files were transferred from XP Home although there
> never was an attempt to modify securitty setting on them. However I don't
> experience this issue with my own application, overwriting files in it's
> local folders...
>
>
> Important question, will the Gold RTM build be available as an update to
> RC1?
>
> Thanks in advance


My System SpecsSystem Spec
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