Vista Tutorial - Ftp

03-25-2009

On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:24:00 -0400, Van Chocstraw wrote:

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> Why is there no 'connect' command for ftp? Used to be. Why?
> There is disconnect, bye, why no connect.
> Used to type connect then the ip address.
> How do you connect now?
>
> I'm just working behind a firewall so don't worry.

Have you tried "open"?

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03-25-2009

Gene E. Bloch wrote:

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> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:24:00 -0400, Van Chocstraw wrote:
>

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>> Why is there no 'connect' command for ftp? Used to be. Why?
>> There is disconnect, bye, why no connect.
>> Used to type connect then the ip address.
>> How do you connect now?
>>
>> I'm just working behind a firewall so don't worry.

>
> Have you tried "open"?
>

I figured it out. You type 'ftp ip-address' before you get the ftp prompt.

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03-25-2009

On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:25:29 -0400, Van Chocstraw wrote:

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> Gene E. Bloch wrote:

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>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:24:00 -0400, Van Chocstraw wrote:
>>

Quote:

>>> Why is there no 'connect' command for ftp? Used to be. Why?
>>> There is disconnect, bye, why no connect.
>>> Used to type connect then the ip address.
>>> How do you connect now?
>>>
>>> I'm just working behind a firewall so don't worry.

>>
>> Have you tried "open"?
>>

>
> I figured it out. You type 'ftp ip-address' before you get the ftp prompt.

OK, thanks. I haven't used command-line FTP in years, so I had forgotten
that.

I use Fire-FTP, an add-in to Firefox, so I don't have to think any more :-)

BTW, can you use a site-name instead of an IP address? That might be
convenient.

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03-25-2009

On 25 Mar 2009, "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@xxxxxx> wrote in
microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:

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> BTW, can you use a site-name instead of an IP address? That might
> be convenient.

Yes.

03-26-2009

On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:48:31 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
<not-me@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:25:29 -0400, Van Chocstraw wrote:
>

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>> Gene E. Bloch wrote:

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>>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:24:00 -0400, Van Chocstraw wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why is there no 'connect' command for ftp? Used to be. Why?
>>>> There is disconnect, bye, why no connect.
>>>> Used to type connect then the ip address.
>>>> How do you connect now?
>>>>
>>>> I'm just working behind a firewall so don't worry.
>>>
>>> Have you tried "open"?
>>>

>>
>> I figured it out. You type 'ftp ip-address' before you get the ftp prompt.

>
>OK, thanks. I haven't used command-line FTP in years, so I had forgotten
>that.
>
>I use Fire-FTP, an add-in to Firefox, so I don't have to think any more :-)
>
>BTW, can you use a site-name instead of an IP address? That might be
>convenient.

Type FTP at the command prompt
Type ? at the FTP> prompt
All commands will be revealed!

03-26-2009

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:22:45 -0400, +Bob+ wrote:

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> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:48:31 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
> <not-me@xxxxxx> wrote:
>

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>>On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:25:29 -0400, Van Chocstraw wrote:
>>

Quote:

>>> Gene E. Bloch wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:24:00 -0400, Van Chocstraw wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why is there no 'connect' command for ftp? Used to be. Why?
>>>>> There is disconnect, bye, why no connect.
>>>>> Used to type connect then the ip address.
>>>>> How do you connect now?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm just working behind a firewall so don't worry.
>>>>
>>>> Have you tried "open"?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I figured it out. You type 'ftp ip-address' before you get the ftp prompt.

>>
>>OK, thanks. I haven't used command-line FTP in years, so I had forgotten
>>that.
>>
>>I use Fire-FTP, an add-in to Firefox, so I don't have to think any more :-)
>>
>>BTW, can you use a site-name instead of an IP address? That might be
>>convenient.

>
> Type FTP at the command prompt
> Type ? at the FTP> prompt
> All commands will be revealed!

BUT not the answer to my question...

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03-26-2009

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:59:53 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
<not-me@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>> Type FTP at the command prompt
>> Type ? at the FTP> prompt
>> All commands will be revealed!

>
>BUT not the answer to my question...

Not in Windows FTP, no.

You can FTP to an IP, a domain, even a windows server name if the
network is reasonably configured.

FWIW: A domain name is just a pointer to an IP address. You can almost
always use a domain name in place of an IP address - at least as long
as the host system can translate it for you using an available DNS
server.

The only places IP's are "required" (generalization) is in network
settings for things like DNS servers. For example, your router needs
an IP address for the DNS server itself because it can't lookup any
names until it know where the server is (catch-22).

03-26-2009

"Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

>> I figured it out. You type 'ftp ip-address' before you get the ftp
>> prompt.

>
> BTW, can you use a site-name instead of an IP address? That might be
> convenient.
>

Yes... if your computer can resolve domain names.
No.. if it can't.

03-26-2009

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:05:44 -0400, +Bob+ wrote:

Quote:

> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:59:53 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
> <not-me@xxxxxx> wrote:
>

Quote:

>>> Type FTP at the command prompt
>>> Type ? at the FTP> prompt
>>> All commands will be revealed!

>>
>>BUT not the answer to my question...

>
> Not in Windows FTP, no.
>
> You can FTP to an IP, a domain, even a windows server name if the
> network is reasonably configured.
>
> FWIW: A domain name is just a pointer to an IP address. You can almost
> always use a domain name in place of an IP address - at least as long
> as the host system can translate it for you using an available DNS
> server.
>
> The only places IP's are "required" (generalization) is in network
> settings for things like DNS servers. For example, your router needs
> an IP address for the DNS server itself because it can't lookup any
> names until it know where the server is (catch-22).

Yes, Nil already answered that question to my satisfaction. Lucky for me: I
was too lazy to research it myself :-)

In effect, my question was "Does FTP use DNS". As I said, Nil answered
that.

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03-27-2009

On 26 Mar 2009, "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@xxxxxx> wrote in
microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:

Quote:

> Yes, Nil already answered that question to my satisfaction. Lucky
> for me: I was too lazy to research it myself :-)

It didn't take any real "research" - it took opening a command window
and trying it for myself. I already knew the answer, but that confirmed
it.

03-25-2009	#1 (permalink)
Gene E. Bloch Guest n/a posts	Re: FTP On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:24:00 -0400, Van Chocstraw wrote: Quote: > Why is there no 'connect' command for ftp? Used to be. Why? > There is disconnect, bye, why no connect. > Used to type connect then the ip address. > How do you connect now? > > I'm just working behind a firewall so don't worry. Have you tried "open"? -- Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom
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03-25-2009	#2 (permalink)
Van Chocstraw Guest n/a posts	Re: FTP Gene E. Bloch wrote: Quote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:24:00 -0400, Van Chocstraw wrote: > Quote: >> Why is there no 'connect' command for ftp? Used to be. Why? >> There is disconnect, bye, why no connect. >> Used to type connect then the ip address. >> How do you connect now? >> >> I'm just working behind a firewall so don't worry. > > Have you tried "open"? > I figured it out. You type 'ftp ip-address' before you get the ftp prompt. -- <<//--------------------\\>> Van Chocstraw Quote: Quote: >>\\--------------------//<<
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03-25-2009	#3 (permalink)
Gene E. Bloch Guest n/a posts	Re: FTP On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:25:29 -0400, Van Chocstraw wrote: Quote: > Gene E. Bloch wrote: Quote: >> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:24:00 -0400, Van Chocstraw wrote: >> Quote: >>> Why is there no 'connect' command for ftp? Used to be. Why? >>> There is disconnect, bye, why no connect. >>> Used to type connect then the ip address. >>> How do you connect now? >>> >>> I'm just working behind a firewall so don't worry. >> >> Have you tried "open"? >> > > I figured it out. You type 'ftp ip-address' before you get the ftp prompt. OK, thanks. I haven't used command-line FTP in years, so I had forgotten that. I use Fire-FTP, an add-in to Firefox, so I don't have to think any more :-) BTW, can you use a site-name instead of an IP address? That might be convenient. -- Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom
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03-25-2009	#4 (permalink)
Nil Guest n/a posts	Re: FTP On 25 Mar 2009, "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@xxxxxx> wrote in microsoft.public.windows.vista.general: Quote: > BTW, can you use a site-name instead of an IP address? That might > be convenient. Yes.
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03-26-2009	#5 (permalink)
+Bob+ Guest n/a posts	Re: FTP On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:48:31 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:25:29 -0400, Van Chocstraw wrote: > Quote: >> Gene E. Bloch wrote: Quote: >>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:24:00 -0400, Van Chocstraw wrote: >>> >>>> Why is there no 'connect' command for ftp? Used to be. Why? >>>> There is disconnect, bye, why no connect. >>>> Used to type connect then the ip address. >>>> How do you connect now? >>>> >>>> I'm just working behind a firewall so don't worry. >>> >>> Have you tried "open"? >>> >> >> I figured it out. You type 'ftp ip-address' before you get the ftp prompt. > >OK, thanks. I haven't used command-line FTP in years, so I had forgotten >that. > >I use Fire-FTP, an add-in to Firefox, so I don't have to think any more :-) > >BTW, can you use a site-name instead of an IP address? That might be >convenient. Type FTP at the command prompt Type ? at the FTP> prompt All commands will be revealed!
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03-26-2009	#6 (permalink)
Gene E. Bloch Guest n/a posts	Ftp On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:22:45 -0400, +Bob+ wrote: Quote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:48:31 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" > <not-me@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >>On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:25:29 -0400, Van Chocstraw wrote: >> Quote: >>> Gene E. Bloch wrote: >>>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:24:00 -0400, Van Chocstraw wrote: >>>> >>>>> Why is there no 'connect' command for ftp? Used to be. Why? >>>>> There is disconnect, bye, why no connect. >>>>> Used to type connect then the ip address. >>>>> How do you connect now? >>>>> >>>>> I'm just working behind a firewall so don't worry. >>>> >>>> Have you tried "open"? >>>> >>> >>> I figured it out. You type 'ftp ip-address' before you get the ftp prompt. >> >>OK, thanks. I haven't used command-line FTP in years, so I had forgotten >>that. >> >>I use Fire-FTP, an add-in to Firefox, so I don't have to think any more :-) >> >>BTW, can you use a site-name instead of an IP address? That might be >>convenient. > > Type FTP at the command prompt > Type ? at the FTP> prompt > All commands will be revealed! BUT not the answer to my question... -- Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom
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03-26-2009	#7 (permalink)
+Bob+ Guest n/a posts	Re: FTP On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:59:53 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: Quote: >> Type FTP at the command prompt >> Type ? at the FTP> prompt >> All commands will be revealed! > >BUT not the answer to my question... Not in Windows FTP, no. You can FTP to an IP, a domain, even a windows server name if the network is reasonably configured. FWIW: A domain name is just a pointer to an IP address. You can almost always use a domain name in place of an IP address - at least as long as the host system can translate it for you using an available DNS server. The only places IP's are "required" (generalization) is in network settings for things like DNS servers. For example, your router needs an IP address for the DNS server itself because it can't lookup any names until it know where the server is (catch-22).
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03-26-2009	#8 (permalink)
John Guest n/a posts	Re: FTP "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:mv1fsvg6sw7q.11uj1qjeqmaqq.dlg@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: >> I figured it out. You type 'ftp ip-address' before you get the ftp >> prompt. > > BTW, can you use a site-name instead of an IP address? That might be > convenient. > Yes... if your computer can resolve domain names. No.. if it can't.
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03-26-2009	#9 (permalink)
Gene E. Bloch Guest n/a posts	Re: FTP On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:05:44 -0400, +Bob+ wrote: Quote: > On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:59:53 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" > <not-me@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: Quote: >>> Type FTP at the command prompt >>> Type ? at the FTP> prompt >>> All commands will be revealed! >> >>BUT not the answer to my question... > > Not in Windows FTP, no. > > You can FTP to an IP, a domain, even a windows server name if the > network is reasonably configured. > > FWIW: A domain name is just a pointer to an IP address. You can almost > always use a domain name in place of an IP address - at least as long > as the host system can translate it for you using an available DNS > server. > > The only places IP's are "required" (generalization) is in network > settings for things like DNS servers. For example, your router needs > an IP address for the DNS server itself because it can't lookup any > names until it know where the server is (catch-22). Yes, Nil already answered that question to my satisfaction. Lucky for me: I was too lazy to research it myself :-) In effect, my question was "Does FTP use DNS". As I said, Nil answered that. -- Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom
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03-27-2009	#10 (permalink)
Nil Guest n/a posts	Re: FTP On 26 Mar 2009, "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@xxxxxx> wrote in microsoft.public.windows.vista.general: Quote: > Yes, Nil already answered that question to my satisfaction. Lucky > for me: I was too lazy to research it myself :-) It didn't take any real "research" - it took opening a command window and trying it for myself. I already knew the answer, but that confirmed it.
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