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| | How full can my hard drive be? Okay, I am about to set up my new HP computer which has Vista Premium 64 bit and a 750 gig hard drive. With all the mp3's, lossless audio and avi's I have on various external hard drives, 750 gigs isn't really "that big" anymore! So I was on the phone with a friend last night and he said "I have to delete a bunch of stuff from my hard drive because my computer geek friend told me I should never have my drive more than 50% full." I said, "Well, surely nowadays with big hard drives that is no longer true. But I will ask." So: How full can a 750gig hard drive be, before it causes sluggishness or other problems, using Vista Premium 64bit? Note: I am thinking of shrinking the C partition into various partitions: about 20gigs for a cd/dvd ripping area about 100gigs for Vista and programs and desktop working area" (C drive) about 400 gigs for mp3's and the rest for .avi movie files Is this a reasonable plan? And is it okay to shrink it and divide it after I'm already up and running with Vista, internet, etc.? Thanks for the info! |
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| | Re: How full can my hard drive be? "JuanAdams" <jimsocal@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:8ccc579a-10ce-4b49-81bf-e1dcd0e84b94@xxxxxx Quote: > So I was on the phone with a friend last night and he said "I have to > delete a bunch of stuff from my hard drive because my computer geek > friend told me I should never have my drive more than 50% full." Windows a bit of space for when it installs patches and updates, and to make sure there's room for System Restore and the like. Quote: > How full can a 750gig hard drive be, before it causes sluggishness or > other problems, using Vista Premium 64bit? for a couple of months now, granted I only have a few System Restore points now, but its working fine. There is a performance impact as a drive gets full, this is because it takes longer to access the outside of a platter than the inside (because of the rotation speed), in benchmarks it can be half the speed of the beginning of the drive, but Windows typically will be physically positioned near the beginning of the drive anyway, and being a bit slow accessing music or videos won't have any impact. This isn't something an end-user would notice without having tools to actually test the drive. Quote: > Note: I am thinking of shrinking the C partition into various > partitions: > about 20gigs for a cd/dvd ripping area > about 100gigs for Vista and programs and desktop working area" (C > drive) > about 400 gigs for mp3's > and the rest for .avi movie files enable you to have a greater percentage of free space on the system partition, but I'm doubtful if its worth it considering the situation you could come across later on wishing you had a few more gigabytes for your MP3 partition, and so having to spread it around different partitions for example. (The built in partitioning tools cannot always shrink a partition, usually because there's data that cannot be physically moved being in the way). -- Paul Smith, Yeovil, UK. Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience. http://www.dasmirnov.net/ |
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| | Re: How full can my hard drive be? JuanAdams wrote: Quote: > Okay, I am about to set up my new HP computer which has Vista Premium > 64 bit and a 750 gig hard drive. > > With all the mp3's, lossless audio and avi's I have on various > external hard drives, 750 gigs isn't really "that big" anymore! > > So I was on the phone with a friend last night and he said "I have to > delete a bunch of stuff from my hard drive because my computer geek > friend told me I should never have my drive more than 50% full." > > I said, "Well, surely nowadays with big hard drives that is no longer > true. But I will ask." > > So: > How full can a 750gig hard drive be, before it causes sluggishness or > other problems, using Vista Premium 64bit? > > Note: I am thinking of shrinking the C partition into various > partitions: > about 20gigs for a cd/dvd ripping area > about 100gigs for Vista and programs and desktop working area" (C > drive) > about 400 gigs for mp3's > and the rest for .avi movie files > > Is this a reasonable plan? > And is it okay to shrink it and divide it after I'm already up and > running with Vista, internet, etc.? > > Thanks for the info! HDDs are so cheap at the moment - add a big second drive and move all your downloads and media to it. Guy |
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| | Re: How full can my hard drive be? On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:45:41 -0000, "Paul Smith" <paul@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >There is a performance impact as a drive gets full, this is because it takes >longer to access the outside of a platter than the inside (because of the >rotation speed), in benchmarks it can be half the speed of the beginning of >the drive, but Windows typically will be physically positioned near the >beginning of the drive anyway, and being a bit slow accessing music or >videos won't have any impact. This isn't something an end-user would notice >without having tools to actually test the drive. thrashes about when close to full. Rattle, rattle, rattle, wait, wait, wait. |
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| Vista Ultimate X32 | Re: How full can my hard drive be? Quote: The end user will notice the reduction in performance as the drive thrashes about when close to full. Rattle, rattle, rattle, wait, wait, wait. But that depends on how full and how slow, the manufacturer (ie; how cheap),,, you need to leave atleast 20% free space for proper defragging never going over 50% free space is a bit on the rediculous side if you ask me. With that said...... SSD drives will not suffer these problems. |
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| | Re: How full can my hard drive be? On Mar 27, 4:37*pm, Tepid <gu...@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote: Quote: Quote: > > The end user will notice the reduction in performance as the drive > > thrashes about when close to full. Rattle, rattle, rattle, wait, wait, > > wait. > Your drive is going toast...... > But that depends on how full and how slow, the manufacturer (ie; how > cheap),,, > you need to leave atleast 20% free space for proper defragging > > never going over 50% free space is a bit on the rediculous side if you > ask me. > > With that said...... > > SSD drives will not suffer these problems. > > -- > Tepid |
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| | Re: How full can my hard drive be? JuanAdams <jimsocal@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >On Mar 27, 4:37*pm, Tepid <gu...@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote: Quote: Quote: >> > The end user will notice the reduction in performance as the drive >> > thrashes about when close to full. Rattle, rattle, rattle, wait, wait, >> > wait. >> Your drive is going toast...... >> But that depends on how full and how slow, the manufacturer (ie; how >> cheap),,, >> you need to leave atleast 20% free space for proper defragging >> >> never going over 50% free space is a bit on the rediculous side if you >> ask me. >> >> With that said...... >> >> SSD drives will not suffer these problems. >> >> -- >> Tepid >What's an SSD drive? |
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| | Re: How full can my hard drive be? On Mar 28, 2:29*pm, Mike Torello <torel...@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > JuanAdams <jimso...@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > >On Mar 27, 4:37*pm, Tepid <gu...@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote: Quote: > >> > The end user will notice the reduction in performance as the drive > >> > thrashes about when close to full. Rattle, rattle, rattle, wait, wait, > >> > wait. Quote: Quote: > >> Your drive is going toast...... > >> But that depends on how full and how slow, the manufacturer (ie; how > >> cheap),,, > >> you need to leave atleast 20% free space for proper defragging Quote: Quote: > >> never going over 50% free space is a bit on the rediculous side if you > >> ask me. Quote: Quote: > >> With that said...... Quote: Quote: > >> SSD drives will not suffer these problems. Quote: Quote: > >> -- > >> Tepid Quote: > >What's an SSD drive? > GOT GOOGLE?? Got patience? |
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| | Re: How full can my hard drive be? On Mar 28, 2:29*pm, Mike Torello <torel...@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > JuanAdams <jimso...@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > >On Mar 27, 4:37*pm, Tepid <gu...@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote: Quote: > >> > The end user will notice the reduction in performance as the drive > >> > thrashes about when close to full. Rattle, rattle, rattle, wait, wait, > >> > wait. Quote: Quote: > >> Your drive is going toast...... > >> But that depends on how full and how slow, the manufacturer (ie; how > >> cheap),,, > >> you need to leave atleast 20% free space for proper defragging Quote: Quote: > >> never going over 50% free space is a bit on the rediculous side if you > >> ask me. Quote: Quote: > >> With that said...... Quote: Quote: > >> SSD drives will not suffer these problems. Quote: Quote: > >> -- > >> Tepid Quote: > >What's an SSD drive? > GOT GOOGLE?? For those who may not want to go looking it up, I found the following info at wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive "A solid-state drive (SSD) is a data storage device that uses solid- state memory to store persistent data. An SSD emulates a hard disk drive interface, thus easily replacing it in most applications. An SSD using SRAM or DRAM (instead of flash memory) is often called a RAM- drive. The original usage of the term solid-state (from solid-state physics) refers to the use of semiconductor devices rather than electron tubes, but in this context, has been adopted to distinguish solid-state electronics from electromechanical devices as well. With no moving parts, solid-state drives are less fragile than hard disks and are also silent (unless a cooling fan is used); as there are no mechanical delays, they usually employ low access time and latency. SSDs have begun to appear in laptops,[1][2] although as of 2009 they are substantially more expensive per unit of capacity than hard drives (US$500 for a 256 GB SSD, vs. US$50 for a similar size external USB HDD [3])." me: Sounds like a good deal if and when they come down in price. Right now they're maybe a good deal, anyway if you consider that they are less likely (IF they indeed are less likely?) to die within a year or two as most USB External Hard drives seem to do. |
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