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| | file search fails Vista Home Premium x64 SP1, HP Pavilion desktop, file search by partial name fails when filename contains numbers, search options to include subfolders and find partial matches both checked example - 5 text files ------------------------------ test1970bar.txt bar1970test.txt 1970bartest.txt 1970.txt 10027011.txt here is a list of the partial name search term followed by the files found 70 test1970bar.txt 19 1970bartest.txt 1970.txt test test1970bar.txt bar bar1970test.txt 70bar No Filles Found bar19 bar1970test.txt txt test1970bar.txt bar1970test.txt 1970bartest.txt 1970.txt 10027011.txt this seems a serious security issue, if files cannot be located then security issues cannot be clearly dealt with, is there a patch to fix this problem |
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| | Re: file search fails On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 07:28:01 -0700, BC <BC@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >Vista Home Premium x64 SP1, HP Pavilion desktop, > >file search by partial name fails when filename contains numbers, search >options to include subfolders and find partial matches both checked > >example - 5 text files >------------------------------ >test1970bar.txt >bar1970test.txt >1970bartest.txt >1970.txt >10027011.txt > ... snip ... >this seems a serious security issue, if files cannot be located then >security issues cannot be clearly dealt with, is there a patch to fix this >problem return .txt files containing the string "70" in their names: ext:txt name:*70* Details on the using search and on the new syntax are found here: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro.../advquery.mspx http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...filetypes.mspx http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...andtricks.mspx http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/win...529ec1033.mspx http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...6426d1033.mspx http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...dc0d51033.mspx Doug M. in NJ |
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| | Re: file search fails The link between not being able to find a few text files (through not using the correct syntax) and a 'serious security issue' imho is a bit tenuous. I know that we're supposed to live in perpetual fear of the ever-plotting ingenious hacker, but even so, that may be stretching it a bit. -- Jon "We were very wealthy. The only thing we did not have was money." (overheard) "BC" <BC@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:590DE9BA-BFC4-422D-8997-E98007BD7576@xxxxxx Quote: > Vista Home Premium x64 SP1, HP Pavilion desktop, > > file search by partial name fails when filename contains numbers, search > options to include subfolders and find partial matches both checked > > example - 5 text files > ------------------------------ > test1970bar.txt > bar1970test.txt > 1970bartest.txt > 1970.txt > 10027011.txt > > here is a list of the partial name search term followed by the files found > > 70 > test1970bar.txt > > 19 > 1970bartest.txt > 1970.txt > > test > test1970bar.txt > > bar > bar1970test.txt > > 70bar > No Filles Found > > bar19 > bar1970test.txt > > txt > test1970bar.txt > bar1970test.txt > 1970bartest.txt > 1970.txt > 10027011.txt > > this seems a serious security issue, if files cannot be located then > security issues cannot be clearly dealt with, is there a patch to fix this > problem |
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| | Re: file search fails This IS a serious security issue. We have the same problem at my company. When we execute searches to find dangerous files, we expect to find them. But the new search frequently misses them. In XP's file search, we never had such a problem. In Vista, we've had to go back to using the DIR command because Vista's search missed so many files. Seems like a step backwards to me. Why should we have to go back to a command we used in the 80s to perform a simple task like searching for a file? "Jon" <Email_Address@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:usJMIOitJHA.248@xxxxxx Quote: > The link between not being able to find a few text files (through not > using the correct syntax) and a 'serious security issue' imho is a bit > tenuous. > > I know that we're supposed to live in perpetual fear of the ever-plotting > ingenious hacker, but even so, that may be stretching it a bit. > > -- > Jon > > "We were very wealthy. The only thing we did not have was money." > (overheard) > > > "BC" <BC@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:590DE9BA-BFC4-422D-8997-E98007BD7576@xxxxxx Quote: >> Vista Home Premium x64 SP1, HP Pavilion desktop, >> >> file search by partial name fails when filename contains numbers, search >> options to include subfolders and find partial matches both checked >> >> example - 5 text files >> ------------------------------ >> test1970bar.txt >> bar1970test.txt >> 1970bartest.txt >> 1970.txt >> 10027011.txt >> >> here is a list of the partial name search term followed by the files >> found >> >> 70 >> test1970bar.txt >> >> 19 >> 1970bartest.txt >> 1970.txt >> >> test >> test1970bar.txt >> >> bar >> bar1970test.txt >> >> 70bar >> No Filles Found >> >> bar19 >> bar1970test.txt >> >> txt >> test1970bar.txt >> bar1970test.txt >> 1970bartest.txt >> 1970.txt >> 10027011.txt >> >> this seems a serious security issue, if files cannot be located then >> security issues cannot be clearly dealt with, is there a patch to fix >> this >> problem |
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| Vista Ultimate X64 SP2 | Re: file search fails "Windows" Key + "F" opens advanced search unless context menu is restored Context menu for start/files/folders/drives can be restored: To restore the context menu, rename or delete the "LegacyDisable" value under the following registry keys: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\find HKCR\CompressedFolder\shell\find HKCR\Drive\shell\find For more info see: Search Context Menu Item - Restore After Vista SP1 Advanced Search in Vista opens a search Windows like this: For those unable to view image: file search fails Last edited by rive0108; 04-05-2009 at 06:03 PM.. |
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| | Re: file search fails "SixSigmaGuy" <Rick@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23SFJfEjtJHA.2148@xxxxxx Quote: > This IS a serious security issue. We have the same problem at my company. > When we execute searches to find dangerous files, we expect to find them. > But the new search frequently misses them. In XP's file search, we never > had such a problem. In Vista, we've had to go back to using the DIR > command because Vista's search missed so many files. Seems like a step > backwards to me. Why should we have to go back to a command we used in > the 80s to perform a simple task like searching for a file? > The reason is that you're not supposed to find the file. MS is making clear the separation between the 'System' (the realm of the MS elites upon which the lowly user may not tread), and the realm of the 'User' (which is to be content with perusing your documents and watching the odd video), and not to venture where you're not supposed to. Suitably restricted in your movements you will be easier to control. Big Brother Microsoft will take care of all your security needs, so you no longer have to. Just download the continual updates that keep in you in perpetual fear of the nasty hacker, and all will be well. They will help you to ward off any spyware and would never dream of collecting any data on you themselves to share with third parties. -- Jon |
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| | Re: file search fails BC wrote: Quote: > this seems a serious security issue, if files cannot be located then > security issues cannot be clearly dealt with, is there a patch to fix this > problem would involve using the Advance Search features. |
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| | Re: file search fails On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:21:02 +0100, "Jon" <Email_Address@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > > >The reason is that you're not supposed to find the file. > >MS is making clear the separation between the 'System' (the realm of the MS >elites upon which the lowly user may not tread), and the realm of the 'User' >(which is to be content with perusing your documents and watching the odd >video), and not to venture where you're not supposed to. Suitably restricted >in your movements you will be easier to control. > >Big Brother Microsoft will take care of all your security needs, so you no >longer have to. Just download the continual updates that keep in you in >perpetual fear of the nasty hacker, and all will be well. They will help you >to ward off any spyware and would never dream of collecting any data on you >themselves to share with third parties. be done with the POS called Vista Search. |
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| | Re: file search fails Get a life!! Wow, talk about someone who completely misses the point and comes back with some ridiculous reply like yours. How on Earth do you know what type of file I'm trying to find? I never said one thing about it. If you aren't going to try to help, then don't waste people's time in the newsgroup with such useless replies. We have a serious security problem and you don't have a clue what we are talking about. So, rather than try to understand and reply with something helpful, you just make a fool of yourself with a stupid reply. Notice how the next reply, from +Bob+, actually says something helpful, rather than just wasted words like yours. Geezz, do you think there's anyone on here who doesn't already know what you said in your reply. I guess you just like to state the obvious and treat everyone else as if they are stupid, rather try to do something useful. "Jon" <Email_Address@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23UMotRjtJHA.1240@xxxxxx Quote: > > "SixSigmaGuy" <Rick@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:%23SFJfEjtJHA.2148@xxxxxx Quote: >> This IS a serious security issue. We have the same problem at my >> company. When we execute searches to find dangerous files, we expect to >> find them. But the new search frequently misses them. In XP's file >> search, we never had such a problem. In Vista, we've had to go back to >> using the DIR command because Vista's search missed so many files. Seems >> like a step backwards to me. Why should we have to go back to a command >> we used in the 80s to perform a simple task like searching for a file? >> > > The reason is that you're not supposed to find the file. > > MS is making clear the separation between the 'System' (the realm of the > MS elites upon which the lowly user may not tread), and the realm of the > 'User' (which is to be content with perusing your documents and watching > the odd video), and not to venture where you're not supposed to. Suitably > restricted in your movements you will be easier to control. > > Big Brother Microsoft will take care of all your security needs, so you no > longer have to. Just download the continual updates that keep in you in > perpetual fear of the nasty hacker, and all will be well. They will help > you to ward off any spyware and would never dream of collecting any data > on you themselves to share with third parties. > > -- > Jon > > > |
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| | Re: file search fails Great advice! Thanks. Can you point me to Agent Ransack? I sure hope Microsoft is going to fix this in Win7. What were they thinking of when they made so many changes to the search tool. Adding new features is wonderful, but don't remove the existing ones that people are already familiar with. Thanks, "+Bob+" <nomailplease@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:02fit4l5rpve2hgurj9r40ll8kqg424ddu@xxxxxx Quote: > On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:21:02 +0100, "Jon" > <Email_Address@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >> >> >>The reason is that you're not supposed to find the file. >> >>MS is making clear the separation between the 'System' (the realm of the >>MS >>elites upon which the lowly user may not tread), and the realm of the >>'User' >>(which is to be content with perusing your documents and watching the odd >>video), and not to venture where you're not supposed to. Suitably >>restricted >>in your movements you will be easier to control. >> >>Big Brother Microsoft will take care of all your security needs, so you no >>longer have to. Just download the continual updates that keep in you in >>perpetual fear of the nasty hacker, and all will be well. They will help >>you >>to ward off any spyware and would never dream of collecting any data on >>you >>themselves to share with third parties. > Just shut off the search indexing service, install Agent Ransack, and > be done with the POS called Vista Search. > |
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